Resign(ation) patterns
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Saw Nemanaja's thread on Resign Patterns, and thought it might be different ways to turn in one's resignation. Had an interview which went well this morning. I've got a good, but not great, feeling about it. I rather expect that I'm not going to be able to stop myself from burning bridges. Our development group got swallowed up by this company which is contracted to provide network support, and they've pretty much screwed up everything in the transition. So, what's everybody's best (whatever that means to you) resignation story?
Don't burn any bridges. I started showing up for 4 hour days my last week, but I was still coding my last hour of my last day (I only showed up for an hour that day). If you are going to remain living in the area, it can get worse. It's a small world and it is very easy to get a reputation.
Craigslist Troll: litaly@comcast.net "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
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It was bad management, and the guy pulled it off was a total sleeze. I don't know if I'd value the extra money for the bad karma. Before I witnessed it first hand it seemed like a way to stick it to the man. Once I saw what it really was, it's theft.
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That's a good point, this is probably one of those ideas that are best left on the bar room floor. Still the company's management was catastrophically negligent to let it go for 4 months!!
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Don't burn any bridges. I started showing up for 4 hour days my last week, but I was still coding my last hour of my last day (I only showed up for an hour that day). If you are going to remain living in the area, it can get worse. It's a small world and it is very easy to get a reputation.
Craigslist Troll: litaly@comcast.net "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
You're right. I'm not sure if, when asked, "Why are you leaving?", that I'll be unable to stop from responding with "You're @#($^ kidding, right?" and then go down the list of ways this transition has been a disaster. Just my nature, not something of which I'm necessarily proud. It's been such a bad experience, that there is zero chance I'll work for this organization again, or with any of the new organization's people. (In fact, I'm not even listing it on my resume. In the future, I'm thinking about just having a few-week blank period on there rather than admit that I was ever associated with them). You're right, though, you never know to whom they might talk.
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You're right. I'm not sure if, when asked, "Why are you leaving?", that I'll be unable to stop from responding with "You're @#($^ kidding, right?" and then go down the list of ways this transition has been a disaster. Just my nature, not something of which I'm necessarily proud. It's been such a bad experience, that there is zero chance I'll work for this organization again, or with any of the new organization's people. (In fact, I'm not even listing it on my resume. In the future, I'm thinking about just having a few-week blank period on there rather than admit that I was ever associated with them). You're right, though, you never know to whom they might talk.
agolddog wrote:
You're right. I'm not sure if, when asked, "Why are you leaving?", that I'll be unable to stop from responding with "You're @#($^ kidding, right?" and then go down the list of ways this transition has been a disaster.
The time for that is during the exit interview.
agolddog wrote:
It's been such a bad experience, that there is zero chance I'll work for this organization again, or with any of the new organization's people. (In fact, I'm not even listing it on my resume. In the future, I'm thinking about just having a few-week blank period on there rather than admit that I was ever associated with them).
Wait, you've only been there a few weeks? Whaaa? Are you sure they are the problem? You have a job lined up I hope.
agolddog wrote:
You're right, though, you never know to whom they might talk.
Take a peak at your boss's or some of management's linked in profiles, you'll see how far their social influence can go.
Craigslist Troll: litaly@comcast.net "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
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I replaced a guy that got so annoyed that security was so lax at the company, he overrode the IE home page of everyone on the domain to monster.com. They figured there was only one security issue. :doh:
Curvature of the Mind now with 3D
Better monster.com than monsterc_ck.com. A site I have never been to, but I'm sure it exists.
Craigslist Troll: litaly@comcast.net "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
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Saw Nemanaja's thread on Resign Patterns, and thought it might be different ways to turn in one's resignation. Had an interview which went well this morning. I've got a good, but not great, feeling about it. I rather expect that I'm not going to be able to stop myself from burning bridges. Our development group got swallowed up by this company which is contracted to provide network support, and they've pretty much screwed up everything in the transition. So, what's everybody's best (whatever that means to you) resignation story?
I knew one particular presentation was going to be rough, since a manager who always razzed me was going to be there, so I put a copy of my resignation letter under my stack of vu-graphs (you know, those plastic thingies we used before Bill Gates invented Power Point?). Sure enough as my presentation went on, every few seconds he questioned me and tried to undermine the whole thing. Finally I had enough, so while there was a discussion going on, I put the resignation letter on the projector and walked out of the meeting without saying a word. I went to my office and was packing my things when the general manager came in and asked what I was doing. I told him that he could put up with the crap, but I didn't feel any real need to do that and that I understood it was the company's right to run things as they saw fit, but I felt no dire need to participate. He finally talked me out of leaving, but I put up with a lot less BS after that. And yes, I was truly serious and would have left.
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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Saw Nemanaja's thread on Resign Patterns, and thought it might be different ways to turn in one's resignation. Had an interview which went well this morning. I've got a good, but not great, feeling about it. I rather expect that I'm not going to be able to stop myself from burning bridges. Our development group got swallowed up by this company which is contracted to provide network support, and they've pretty much screwed up everything in the transition. So, what's everybody's best (whatever that means to you) resignation story?
The one that probably will never happen, but sometimes at least is great to immagine: Go to your boss and slap him in the face with a glove and say something like "You, sir, are a [add list of unfavorable qualities here] and a [add even longer list of unfavorable qualities here]. I shall not do your bidding any longer. And now step outside and at least defend yourself like a man." But, to be honest, my current bosses give me little reason to do anything like that.
"I just exchanged opinions with my boss. I went in with mine and came out with his." - me, 2011 ---
I am endeavoring, Madam, to construct a mnemonic memory circuit using stone knives and bearskins - Mr. Spock 1935 and me 2011 -
I knew one particular presentation was going to be rough, since a manager who always razzed me was going to be there, so I put a copy of my resignation letter under my stack of vu-graphs (you know, those plastic thingies we used before Bill Gates invented Power Point?). Sure enough as my presentation went on, every few seconds he questioned me and tried to undermine the whole thing. Finally I had enough, so while there was a discussion going on, I put the resignation letter on the projector and walked out of the meeting without saying a word. I went to my office and was packing my things when the general manager came in and asked what I was doing. I told him that he could put up with the crap, but I didn't feel any real need to do that and that I understood it was the company's right to run things as they saw fit, but I felt no dire need to participate. He finally talked me out of leaving, but I put up with a lot less BS after that. And yes, I was truly serious and would have left.
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
You better be serious about it when you go that far. A good bluff can be really helpful at times, but that's also a card you should not play too often.
"I just exchanged opinions with my boss. I went in with mine and came out with his." - me, 2011 ---
I am endeavoring, Madam, to construct a mnemonic memory circuit using stone knives and bearskins - Mr. Spock 1935 and me 2011 -
At my previous company I was sent on a Management Development Program that ran once a month for a year. The culmination of this was an individual presentation to the board about why I was important to the company and that sort of thing. During the course of the year I was on the course I became increasingly disillusioned with the place, and eventually found myself a new job and the timing was such that I wrote my presentation as a resignation speech explaining exactly what I thought was wrong with the place and why I wanted to leave. It is with deep regret that I have to go on to report that due to problems with getting the board together to receive our presentations it kept getting called off and in the end I had to just scribble a note and hand it to my manager. The story does pick up a bit here, I was at that time heading up a team of two that was re-writing our entire system. The other lad had already handed in his notice by the time I got there that day. Neither of us knew the other was going to do that. The IT Director hasn't spoken a single word to me since the moment I handed my notice in, I had to serve 6 weeks notice and have been at a few functions where he has been in the nearly 4 years since I left.
Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.
oh, how much I hate such things. I don't want to hold speeches about how great and important I am, otherwise I would have gone into politics.
"I just exchanged opinions with my boss. I went in with mine and came out with his." - me, 2011 ---
I am endeavoring, Madam, to construct a mnemonic memory circuit using stone knives and bearskins - Mr. Spock 1935 and me 2011 -
You better be serious about it when you go that far. A good bluff can be really helpful at times, but that's also a card you should not play too often.
"I just exchanged opinions with my boss. I went in with mine and came out with his." - me, 2011 ---
I am endeavoring, Madam, to construct a mnemonic memory circuit using stone knives and bearskins - Mr. Spock 1935 and me 2011Oh believe me, I don't bluff! I already knew where I could be working within a day or two when I did that. As I've told others, you can say anything you want as long as
- It's the truth, and
- You are willing to live with the consequences.
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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Oh believe me, I don't bluff! I already knew where I could be working within a day or two when I did that. As I've told others, you can say anything you want as long as
- It's the truth, and
- You are willing to live with the consequences.
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
Unfortunately many people can't get either part right, much less both at once.
"I just exchanged opinions with my boss. I went in with mine and came out with his." - me, 2011 ---
I am endeavoring, Madam, to construct a mnemonic memory circuit using stone knives and bearskins - Mr. Spock 1935 and me 2011 -
agolddog wrote:
You're right. I'm not sure if, when asked, "Why are you leaving?", that I'll be unable to stop from responding with "You're @#($^ kidding, right?" and then go down the list of ways this transition has been a disaster.
The time for that is during the exit interview.
agolddog wrote:
It's been such a bad experience, that there is zero chance I'll work for this organization again, or with any of the new organization's people. (In fact, I'm not even listing it on my resume. In the future, I'm thinking about just having a few-week blank period on there rather than admit that I was ever associated with them).
Wait, you've only been there a few weeks? Whaaa? Are you sure they are the problem? You have a job lined up I hope.
agolddog wrote:
You're right, though, you never know to whom they might talk.
Take a peak at your boss's or some of management's linked in profiles, you'll see how far their social influence can go.
Craigslist Troll: litaly@comcast.net "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
wizardzz wrote:
Wait, you've only been there a few weeks? Whaaa? Are you sure they are the problem? You have a job lined up I hope.
In the original message he did state that the company he worked for had been taken over by another company. That is why he keeps referring to the transistion period and it being a disaster. So it has only been a few weeks working for the new (take over) company though has probably been in the position for a few years.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Better monster.com than monsterc_ck.com. A site I have never been to, but I'm sure it exists.
Craigslist Troll: litaly@comcast.net "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
wizardzz wrote:
A site I have never been to, but I'm sure it exists.
sure, I believe you. :laugh:
Curvature of the Mind now with 3D
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You're right. I'm not sure if, when asked, "Why are you leaving?", that I'll be unable to stop from responding with "You're @#($^ kidding, right?" and then go down the list of ways this transition has been a disaster. Just my nature, not something of which I'm necessarily proud. It's been such a bad experience, that there is zero chance I'll work for this organization again, or with any of the new organization's people. (In fact, I'm not even listing it on my resume. In the future, I'm thinking about just having a few-week blank period on there rather than admit that I was ever associated with them). You're right, though, you never know to whom they might talk.
"It's been such a bad experience, that there is zero chance I'll work for this organization again, or with any of the new organization's people." Don't be so sure about any of the new organization's people. Some of those people may be looking to jump ship also, and as the saying goes "it is a small industry". I have ended up working with people I haven't worked with for years after we both moved on to more than one intermediate job. Don't burn bridges. You never know what the future holds in store.
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Saw Nemanaja's thread on Resign Patterns, and thought it might be different ways to turn in one's resignation. Had an interview which went well this morning. I've got a good, but not great, feeling about it. I rather expect that I'm not going to be able to stop myself from burning bridges. Our development group got swallowed up by this company which is contracted to provide network support, and they've pretty much screwed up everything in the transition. So, what's everybody's best (whatever that means to you) resignation story?
Been there done that. I have taken three different routes. One I tried to impress upon my bosses when leaving the importance of what I had been doing. 2 months earlier(during review) I had made the statement that I can work less hours somewhere else for 10k more money. Their answer was we don't think so. So I got new job for 12k more and an extra weeks vacation. They offered to keep me for 5k more. I don't think so. They ended up hiring 3 people to replace me. hmmmm? Second place, 8 years old management(love them) got new management. Loved working there. Loved my coworkers but new management wasn't great. I tried really really hard for 4 years to change things. It kept getting worse. I kept trying finally in desperation I took another not awesome job. I let it be known in my exit interview what was wrong pulled no punches. It has been 4 years since I left Management is still in place and the other people still there are still not happy. I am glad I left but I did love that job and the coworkers. Last transistion was a few months back. Knew that the job was not going well. I found the ultimate dream job. I just put in my notice did the rose covered glasses exit interview and got the heck out of there. The last way was the easiest. It was easiest on me and on the coworkers I left behind. Boss at last job wasn't great. Wasn't horrible but he wouldn't take any suggestions and anything You say won't matter anyway. Just get onto what helps you and get out of dodge as fast as possible. I do not recommend trying to do the two jobs thing. That is theft and you end up killing your coworkers and that isn't right. Seen that from others and that isn't right. Be a stand up person and just move on.
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You better be serious about it when you go that far. A good bluff can be really helpful at times, but that's also a card you should not play too often.
"I just exchanged opinions with my boss. I went in with mine and came out with his." - me, 2011 ---
I am endeavoring, Madam, to construct a mnemonic memory circuit using stone knives and bearskins - Mr. Spock 1935 and me 2011 -
Don't burn any bridges. I started showing up for 4 hour days my last week, but I was still coding my last hour of my last day (I only showed up for an hour that day). If you are going to remain living in the area, it can get worse. It's a small world and it is very easy to get a reputation.
Craigslist Troll: litaly@comcast.net "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
been in the business for a long time. That's good advice.
Charlie Gilley You're going to tell me what I want to know, or I'm going to beat you to death in your own house. "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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I've gotten disgruntled and fed up with awful places to work before. It sucks. I've learned that checking out like that didn't help me feel any better, and only ended up inconveniencing people that cared even less than I did. I recommend really looking for a good place to end up, or committing to fixing where you are.
Curvature of the Mind now with 3D
Perhaps "savage" is too strong a word, having a night's rest. We had four people who call themselves developers (two hacks, two decent) and one supervisor on our little team. Since the official transition on May 1, my supervisor has bailed, and I'm pretty much out the door, just waiting for the right opportunity. So when I say, "savage", I really mean, "give an honest accounting of my perception of the flaws of this organization, hoping that it changes for the better for the people who are left behind." From their perspective, it would probably look as if I'm savaging them, as the organization is really screwed up. I don't imagine anyone would act upon my advice, so you're right, nothing to come out of it.
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It was bad management, and the guy pulled it off was a total sleeze. I don't know if I'd value the extra money for the bad karma. Before I witnessed it first hand it seemed like a way to stick it to the man. Once I saw what it really was, it's theft.
Curvature of the Mind now with 3D
Yeah, you're right. Sure it's fun to say, "wow, I'd get two paychecks for doing one job.", but it's also illegal and totally unethical. Although this organization has already shown that ethics is a phrase with which they're not familiar. Proivding a study to tell the prior organization how great it would be for the prior organization if they (the new organization) took over our group. At least there's no obvious conflict of interest there. Sigh. I couldn't do that and look myself in the mirror (not that that is any great treat in itself). When I said doing the Office Space thing above, I meant without a new position. Just to see how long it would take them to a) call and ask if I'm o.k. or b) figure it out.
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agolddog wrote:
You're right. I'm not sure if, when asked, "Why are you leaving?", that I'll be unable to stop from responding with "You're @#($^ kidding, right?" and then go down the list of ways this transition has been a disaster.
The time for that is during the exit interview.
agolddog wrote:
It's been such a bad experience, that there is zero chance I'll work for this organization again, or with any of the new organization's people. (In fact, I'm not even listing it on my resume. In the future, I'm thinking about just having a few-week blank period on there rather than admit that I was ever associated with them).
Wait, you've only been there a few weeks? Whaaa? Are you sure they are the problem? You have a job lined up I hope.
agolddog wrote:
You're right, though, you never know to whom they might talk.
Take a peak at your boss's or some of management's linked in profiles, you'll see how far their social influence can go.
Craigslist Troll: litaly@comcast.net "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
Yes, I'm sure they are the problem. It's not that I've only been here a few weeks. A new organization took over our team a few weeks ago, and the transition has been a total disaster. Same job, just working for different group. Agree with you on the exit interview bit. That's what I intended when I wrote that. Just not sure I'll be able to give the rose-colored view the way someone else mentioned; not in my nature to be anything less than totally honest about my perception of things.