Have we got it all wrong?
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In France, expect beaucoup de vacation[^] Generous management? No. Ever since the 35-hour work week was instituted in France, the government mandates five weeks of vacation for everyone, and those who work more than 35 hours -- like most white-collar workers -- earn an additional two weeks. *sigh*
Todd Smith
Is it wrong or is it a step towards the betterment of life? Aren't there other European countries with even more "lax" working hours? Economically it may prove to be unwise but I am "work to live" than "live to work" kind of person.
"A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine." - Thomas Jefferson "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin Edbert Sydney, Australia
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My company combines vacation and sick time, and it totals less than 2 weeks (not counting holidays). :((
that's horrible! i weep for you! :((
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The French example might be a bit much, but I always thought you Americans were mugs for putting up with only 2 weeks off (sorry - that sounds more pejorative than I meant it to!). In the UK most white-collar jobs give you 4 or 5 weeks, and even here in the tiny NZ economy I get 4.
Yeah, that's america... work, work, work... X|
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Is it wrong or is it a step towards the betterment of life? Aren't there other European countries with even more "lax" working hours? Economically it may prove to be unwise but I am "work to live" than "live to work" kind of person.
"A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine." - Thomas Jefferson "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin Edbert Sydney, Australia
Both ways to look at it are right. Every living thing must work hard just to stay alive. Without having (purposeful) work you very quickly have not much of a life. Reaching a comfortable balance is the art, especially the 'purposeful' part.
"I just exchanged opinions with my boss. I went in with mine and came out with his." - me, 2011 ---
I am endeavoring, Madam, to construct a mnemonic memory circuit using stone knives and bearskins - Mr. Spock 1935 and me 2011 -
Yeah, that's america... work, work, work... X|
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In France, expect beaucoup de vacation[^] Generous management? No. Ever since the 35-hour work week was instituted in France, the government mandates five weeks of vacation for everyone, and those who work more than 35 hours -- like most white-collar workers -- earn an additional two weeks. *sigh*
Todd Smith
Je vais en France! *sigh*
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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In France, expect beaucoup de vacation[^] Generous management? No. Ever since the 35-hour work week was instituted in France, the government mandates five weeks of vacation for everyone, and those who work more than 35 hours -- like most white-collar workers -- earn an additional two weeks. *sigh*
Todd Smith
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Je vais en France! *sigh*
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
J'y suis déjà! I moved from the UK four years ago, just got sick of all the cack... been struggling financially ever since - it turns out the start of a worldwide economic meltdown isn't the best time to set up a company in a new land! - but the quality of life is superb and more than outweighs the skintness :-D
Cheers,
Wilber."I was fortunate to be raised among men, in the old sense of the word. I learned to hunt and shoot, and I learned to appreciate fine guns." - Ted Yost
"My response to people saying slang destroys the language is: bollocks." - Jonathon Green
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In France, expect beaucoup de vacation[^] Generous management? No. Ever since the 35-hour work week was instituted in France, the government mandates five weeks of vacation for everyone, and those who work more than 35 hours -- like most white-collar workers -- earn an additional two weeks. *sigh*
Todd Smith
Since the 35 hour week rule came in RTT, the time off if you work over, was excessive. A friend had every other friday off, thats 25 days on top of the already 24 (plus the 12 days bank hoiday). I had an extra two weeks off. Its a joke, when you arent working 60 days of the year thats almost 3 months! Not to mention the fact none of them actually work 8 hours. More like 5 a day.
Dr D Evans "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s" financialpost
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In France, expect beaucoup de vacation[^] Generous management? No. Ever since the 35-hour work week was instituted in France, the government mandates five weeks of vacation for everyone, and those who work more than 35 hours -- like most white-collar workers -- earn an additional two weeks. *sigh*
Todd Smith
It's a step in the right direction.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Both ways to look at it are right. Every living thing must work hard just to stay alive. Without having (purposeful) work you very quickly have not much of a life. Reaching a comfortable balance is the art, especially the 'purposeful' part.
"I just exchanged opinions with my boss. I went in with mine and came out with his." - me, 2011 ---
I am endeavoring, Madam, to construct a mnemonic memory circuit using stone knives and bearskins - Mr. Spock 1935 and me 2011 -
I have been spending far too much time hiding in bushes recently, and nowhere near enough at home with my spouse. I just can't get this lurk wife balance right.
Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.
Yes. I had that phase as well. Lurking in bushes all week and perhaps getting home on weekends. Do they also make you wear weird camo clothing and a helmet or even give you a rifle?
"I just exchanged opinions with my boss. I went in with mine and came out with his." - me, 2011 ---
I am endeavoring, Madam, to construct a mnemonic memory circuit using stone knives and bearskins - Mr. Spock 1935 and me 2011 -
we use to get paid for our unused sick leave each year :sigh: now, if you don't use it, its lost ... and I've only been out sick 2 days in my 41 years of full time employment :-\
Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am