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  • L Lost User

    A couple of weeks ago I took on an allotment with my mum. She retired a couple of years ago and was interested in one from then on. 50 foot by 20 foot on the edge of the village I live in, brand new development a farmer has simply ploughed one of his fields and marked out the plots. Canal borders two sides of the field. There is, however, a bit of a problem with rabbits and birds. Any advice on how to deal with these. Please be aware that I am not going to sit there with any sort of firearms, but am more than happy to read through solutions that involve these. Also any other comments on growing stuff to eat, what should be grown, what should be done with it afterwards? We are currently both at the status of enthusiastic and unskilled fools.

    Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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    Dalek Dave
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    If the fox hunting law was repealed, there would be more foxes, and thus less rabbits, so get campaigning. As for the birds, mesh, and a model of a raptor may help. As for things to grow, remember to rotate the crops each year, but standard fair are such things as Carrots, Cabbage, Potatoes, Peas and Onions. Also, keep a corner for Rhubarb.

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      A couple of weeks ago I took on an allotment with my mum. She retired a couple of years ago and was interested in one from then on. 50 foot by 20 foot on the edge of the village I live in, brand new development a farmer has simply ploughed one of his fields and marked out the plots. Canal borders two sides of the field. There is, however, a bit of a problem with rabbits and birds. Any advice on how to deal with these. Please be aware that I am not going to sit there with any sort of firearms, but am more than happy to read through solutions that involve these. Also any other comments on growing stuff to eat, what should be grown, what should be done with it afterwards? We are currently both at the status of enthusiastic and unskilled fools.

      Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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      TorstenH
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      how about some classic fences and a scarecrow? You might use modern ones - electric fences for rabbits[^] and computer controled scarecrow[^] regards Torsten

      I never finish anyth...

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        A couple of weeks ago I took on an allotment with my mum. She retired a couple of years ago and was interested in one from then on. 50 foot by 20 foot on the edge of the village I live in, brand new development a farmer has simply ploughed one of his fields and marked out the plots. Canal borders two sides of the field. There is, however, a bit of a problem with rabbits and birds. Any advice on how to deal with these. Please be aware that I am not going to sit there with any sort of firearms, but am more than happy to read through solutions that involve these. Also any other comments on growing stuff to eat, what should be grown, what should be done with it afterwards? We are currently both at the status of enthusiastic and unskilled fools.

        Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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        swjam
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        Not sure, but either of these is what you need? Polytunnel or Solardome greenhouse I am thinking of doing the same, my concern is I'd be growing more than what my family can consume and wouldn't know what to do.

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          A couple of weeks ago I took on an allotment with my mum. She retired a couple of years ago and was interested in one from then on. 50 foot by 20 foot on the edge of the village I live in, brand new development a farmer has simply ploughed one of his fields and marked out the plots. Canal borders two sides of the field. There is, however, a bit of a problem with rabbits and birds. Any advice on how to deal with these. Please be aware that I am not going to sit there with any sort of firearms, but am more than happy to read through solutions that involve these. Also any other comments on growing stuff to eat, what should be grown, what should be done with it afterwards? We are currently both at the status of enthusiastic and unskilled fools.

          Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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          Lost User
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          Simply get a lot of cats. With a cat lurking in every bush, all rabbits and birds will be packing soon :)

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          • L Lost User

            A couple of weeks ago I took on an allotment with my mum. She retired a couple of years ago and was interested in one from then on. 50 foot by 20 foot on the edge of the village I live in, brand new development a farmer has simply ploughed one of his fields and marked out the plots. Canal borders two sides of the field. There is, however, a bit of a problem with rabbits and birds. Any advice on how to deal with these. Please be aware that I am not going to sit there with any sort of firearms, but am more than happy to read through solutions that involve these. Also any other comments on growing stuff to eat, what should be grown, what should be done with it afterwards? We are currently both at the status of enthusiastic and unskilled fools.

            Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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            hairy_hats
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            Get a couple of webcams, some big servos, and build an automated super-soaker rabbit deterrent.

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              A couple of weeks ago I took on an allotment with my mum. She retired a couple of years ago and was interested in one from then on. 50 foot by 20 foot on the edge of the village I live in, brand new development a farmer has simply ploughed one of his fields and marked out the plots. Canal borders two sides of the field. There is, however, a bit of a problem with rabbits and birds. Any advice on how to deal with these. Please be aware that I am not going to sit there with any sort of firearms, but am more than happy to read through solutions that involve these. Also any other comments on growing stuff to eat, what should be grown, what should be done with it afterwards? We are currently both at the status of enthusiastic and unskilled fools.

              Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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              m dhu
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              Here[^] are few options might help you.

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              • S swjam

                Not sure, but either of these is what you need? Polytunnel or Solardome greenhouse I am thinking of doing the same, my concern is I'd be growing more than what my family can consume and wouldn't know what to do.

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                Lost User
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                Well as they are reporting today that food prices will double in the next 20 years you should be able to shift it easily enough.

                Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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                  A couple of weeks ago I took on an allotment with my mum. She retired a couple of years ago and was interested in one from then on. 50 foot by 20 foot on the edge of the village I live in, brand new development a farmer has simply ploughed one of his fields and marked out the plots. Canal borders two sides of the field. There is, however, a bit of a problem with rabbits and birds. Any advice on how to deal with these. Please be aware that I am not going to sit there with any sort of firearms, but am more than happy to read through solutions that involve these. Also any other comments on growing stuff to eat, what should be grown, what should be done with it afterwards? We are currently both at the status of enthusiastic and unskilled fools.

                  Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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                  S Houghtelin
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                  Rabbits don't like marigolds, the smell keeps them away. You can border your garden plot with them. For birds we use whirligigs, those wind driven mechanical contrivances. The motion supposedly keeps the birds away, and I’ve heard that the noisy ones will also keep moles away as well. http://www.whirlygigstore.com/[^]

                  It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                    how about some classic fences and a scarecrow? You might use modern ones - electric fences for rabbits[^] and computer controled scarecrow[^] regards Torsten

                    I never finish anyth...

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                    Julien Villers
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                    I love the computer controlled scarecrow! Now, I'd like to see someone connect a Kinect to a robot-scarecrow in order to protect their crops/pond/whatever :laugh:

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                    • L Lost User

                      A couple of weeks ago I took on an allotment with my mum. She retired a couple of years ago and was interested in one from then on. 50 foot by 20 foot on the edge of the village I live in, brand new development a farmer has simply ploughed one of his fields and marked out the plots. Canal borders two sides of the field. There is, however, a bit of a problem with rabbits and birds. Any advice on how to deal with these. Please be aware that I am not going to sit there with any sort of firearms, but am more than happy to read through solutions that involve these. Also any other comments on growing stuff to eat, what should be grown, what should be done with it afterwards? We are currently both at the status of enthusiastic and unskilled fools.

                      Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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                      Gizz
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                      I use a Daystate Harrier with an ATN Guardian night vision scope on it - works a treat, nice and quiet, and its not a firearm. Well, not in the true sense. Alternatively, 2 foot of wire mesh on little stakes all the way around will do it, for the rabbits. Birds will mainly go for fruit so if you grow that, use nets, or a cat :)

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                        Rabbits don't like marigolds, the smell keeps them away. You can border your garden plot with them. For birds we use whirligigs, those wind driven mechanical contrivances. The motion supposedly keeps the birds away, and I’ve heard that the noisy ones will also keep moles away as well. http://www.whirlygigstore.com/[^]

                        It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                        We planted some marigolds, part of the problem is because not all plots are taken we're sort of at the edge at the moment and fee fences are up. In a week or two though we should be nicely in the middle and I don't think rabbits will be so much of a problem. I went down yesterday and hung up a load of 10 year old CD ROMs up from various bits, birds supposedly do not like shiny things moving about. We also have a motion sensing frog that emits a very loud ribbet if it detects movement infront of it that my wife stupidly and annoyingly bought for my daughter.

                        Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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                          A couple of weeks ago I took on an allotment with my mum. She retired a couple of years ago and was interested in one from then on. 50 foot by 20 foot on the edge of the village I live in, brand new development a farmer has simply ploughed one of his fields and marked out the plots. Canal borders two sides of the field. There is, however, a bit of a problem with rabbits and birds. Any advice on how to deal with these. Please be aware that I am not going to sit there with any sort of firearms, but am more than happy to read through solutions that involve these. Also any other comments on growing stuff to eat, what should be grown, what should be done with it afterwards? We are currently both at the status of enthusiastic and unskilled fools.

                          Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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                          Lost User
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                          ChrisElston wrote:

                          There is, however, a bit of a problem with rabbits and birds.

                          Remember to stay calm they can smell fear.

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                            A couple of weeks ago I took on an allotment with my mum. She retired a couple of years ago and was interested in one from then on. 50 foot by 20 foot on the edge of the village I live in, brand new development a farmer has simply ploughed one of his fields and marked out the plots. Canal borders two sides of the field. There is, however, a bit of a problem with rabbits and birds. Any advice on how to deal with these. Please be aware that I am not going to sit there with any sort of firearms, but am more than happy to read through solutions that involve these. Also any other comments on growing stuff to eat, what should be grown, what should be done with it afterwards? We are currently both at the status of enthusiastic and unskilled fools.

                            Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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                            hairy_hats
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                            ChrisElston wrote:

                            There is, however, a bit of a problem with rabbits

                            Have you tried the Holy Hand-Grenade of Antioch?

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                              If the fox hunting law was repealed, there would be more foxes, and thus less rabbits, so get campaigning. As for the birds, mesh, and a model of a raptor may help. As for things to grow, remember to rotate the crops each year, but standard fair are such things as Carrots, Cabbage, Potatoes, Peas and Onions. Also, keep a corner for Rhubarb.

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                              hairy_hats
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                              Dalek Dave wrote:

                              If the fox hunting law was repealed, there would be more foxes, and thus less rabbits

                              I think you will find you are wrong there.

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                                A couple of weeks ago I took on an allotment with my mum. She retired a couple of years ago and was interested in one from then on. 50 foot by 20 foot on the edge of the village I live in, brand new development a farmer has simply ploughed one of his fields and marked out the plots. Canal borders two sides of the field. There is, however, a bit of a problem with rabbits and birds. Any advice on how to deal with these. Please be aware that I am not going to sit there with any sort of firearms, but am more than happy to read through solutions that involve these. Also any other comments on growing stuff to eat, what should be grown, what should be done with it afterwards? We are currently both at the status of enthusiastic and unskilled fools.

                                Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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                                Luc Pattyn
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                                Once you got yourself some rabbits and pigeons, maybe try this[^]. :)

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                                  ChrisElston wrote:

                                  There is, however, a bit of a problem with rabbits

                                  Have you tried the Holy Hand-Grenade of Antioch?

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                                  You get bonus points if you can tell me in what role playing game the holy handgrenade was the only thing that could kill the strongest monster. Hint: You already could walk around in 3d, but still with 90 degree turns and it was made for 8 bit machines like the Apple II, Atari 800 or C64.

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                                    A couple of weeks ago I took on an allotment with my mum. She retired a couple of years ago and was interested in one from then on. 50 foot by 20 foot on the edge of the village I live in, brand new development a farmer has simply ploughed one of his fields and marked out the plots. Canal borders two sides of the field. There is, however, a bit of a problem with rabbits and birds. Any advice on how to deal with these. Please be aware that I am not going to sit there with any sort of firearms, but am more than happy to read through solutions that involve these. Also any other comments on growing stuff to eat, what should be grown, what should be done with it afterwards? We are currently both at the status of enthusiastic and unskilled fools.

                                    Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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                                    Rajesh R Subramanian
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                                    Landmines?

                                    "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

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                                      We planted some marigolds, part of the problem is because not all plots are taken we're sort of at the edge at the moment and fee fences are up. In a week or two though we should be nicely in the middle and I don't think rabbits will be so much of a problem. I went down yesterday and hung up a load of 10 year old CD ROMs up from various bits, birds supposedly do not like shiny things moving about. We also have a motion sensing frog that emits a very loud ribbet if it detects movement infront of it that my wife stupidly and annoyingly bought for my daughter.

                                      Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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                                      S Houghtelin
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                                      :laugh: I had to laugh, my wife did the same thing with the motion sensing frog. We put that in the garden. Every so often the frog would make its way into the house (My daughter loved to play with the frog). The darn thing would make its presence known, usually in the middle of the night when the cat would walk past it. We would hear the RIBBIT, RIBBIT! with the subsequent skitter scatter of the terrified cat making his way down the hardwood floor crashing off the walls and knocking stuff over.

                                      It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                                      • L Lost User

                                        A couple of weeks ago I took on an allotment with my mum. She retired a couple of years ago and was interested in one from then on. 50 foot by 20 foot on the edge of the village I live in, brand new development a farmer has simply ploughed one of his fields and marked out the plots. Canal borders two sides of the field. There is, however, a bit of a problem with rabbits and birds. Any advice on how to deal with these. Please be aware that I am not going to sit there with any sort of firearms, but am more than happy to read through solutions that involve these. Also any other comments on growing stuff to eat, what should be grown, what should be done with it afterwards? We are currently both at the status of enthusiastic and unskilled fools.

                                        Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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                                        Netting should help with the birds, not sure about the rabbits. Scotch Bonnets around the perimiter perhaps?

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                                          A couple of weeks ago I took on an allotment with my mum. She retired a couple of years ago and was interested in one from then on. 50 foot by 20 foot on the edge of the village I live in, brand new development a farmer has simply ploughed one of his fields and marked out the plots. Canal borders two sides of the field. There is, however, a bit of a problem with rabbits and birds. Any advice on how to deal with these. Please be aware that I am not going to sit there with any sort of firearms, but am more than happy to read through solutions that involve these. Also any other comments on growing stuff to eat, what should be grown, what should be done with it afterwards? We are currently both at the status of enthusiastic and unskilled fools.

                                          Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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                                          Rhys Gravell
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                                          Best thing for Rabbits on Allotments, shoot 'em - seriously. However, if that's not an option you're probably going to have to fence your plot, which could prove relatively expensive. Best bet would probably be something like a 5ft wire fence, buried so you have about 2 ft below ground and three ft above surrounding the growing area. You could try something like ZooPoo[^] as it gets mentioned regularly on some allotment forums but I have no idea how successful it'd really be.

                                          Rhys "I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees"

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