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    Marc Clifton
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    What the heck does this mean, anyways? That you have money to waste? Any time I see this as part of a person's credentials, I just KNOW that the article is crap. A recent article (I won't say which) demonstrates this point. Just thought I'd get that off my chest. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
    sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus

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      What the heck does this mean, anyways? That you have money to waste? Any time I see this as part of a person's credentials, I just KNOW that the article is crap. A recent article (I won't say which) demonstrates this point. Just thought I'd get that off my chest. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
      sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus

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      Mauricio Ritter
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      Marc Clifton wrote: What the heck does this mean, anyways? That you have money to waste? The MS Certifications have become too popular (big MS mistake)... if you randomly throw a rock in a crowded street, you´ll probably have 90% of chance to hit a MCP (maybe 2). :-D Mauricio Ritter - Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 MRitter "Th@ langwagje is screwed! It has if's but no end if's!! Stupid php cant even do butuns on forms! VISHAUL BASICS ARE THE FUTSHURE!" - Simon Walton

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        What the heck does this mean, anyways? That you have money to waste? Any time I see this as part of a person's credentials, I just KNOW that the article is crap. A recent article (I won't say which) demonstrates this point. Just thought I'd get that off my chest. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
        sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus

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        Marc Clifton wrote: What the heck does this mean, anyways? That you have money to waste? Any time I see this as part of a person's credentials, I just KNOW that the article is crap. A recent article (I won't say which) demonstrates this point. Don't be so harsh, I'm an MCP, MCSE, MCABCDEFG, etc. My former company paid for all the classes, and the tests, and they required us to pass them. Some companies weigh certification in factoring raises and bonuses. But yeah, the tests are pretty easier so it's not like you know what you're talking about if you pass them. Don't forget about Braindump Heaven [^] too. Jason Gerard "This almost never matters, except quite often."

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          What the heck does this mean, anyways? That you have money to waste? Any time I see this as part of a person's credentials, I just KNOW that the article is crap. A recent article (I won't say which) demonstrates this point. Just thought I'd get that off my chest. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
          sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus

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          Marc Clifton wrote: just KNOW that the article is crap Bit harsh isn't it? I've been thinking about doing an MCP / MCAD / MCSD, simply because it can give me an additional bonus when looking for a new job. Keep in mind that coders might not think these are up to much, but those folks in HR don't know that...


          Dylan

          "In meetings, the person who is least competent usually does the most talking. Talking is a direct substitute for competence, at least in the minds of other people. Five minutes after you leave a meeting, you won't remember what anyone said but you will remember who did most of the talking. Withing a day your mind will translate that into a notion that the talker was unusually knowledgeable" - Scott Adams, Dilbert and the way of the weasel

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            What the heck does this mean, anyways? That you have money to waste? Any time I see this as part of a person's credentials, I just KNOW that the article is crap. A recent article (I won't say which) demonstrates this point. Just thought I'd get that off my chest. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
            sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus

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            Magius96
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            And to think that I was actually thinking about getting some of those credentials to help me get a job doing what I already love doing. Oh well, guess I'll just stay in my current job of Shift Supervisor at Burger King, earning a measly $7.50 an hour. <NOTE:This message in no means reflects the actuall thoughts, concerns, or opinions of the author, the president, or the rat living in your walls. Please do not take it seriously, jokingly, lovingly, or at all.> "Don't tell me I'm smart, I might actually believe you!" "I once knew a guy who said he was a coder...The FBI arrested him two days later."

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              What the heck does this mean, anyways? That you have money to waste? Any time I see this as part of a person's credentials, I just KNOW that the article is crap. A recent article (I won't say which) demonstrates this point. Just thought I'd get that off my chest. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
              sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus

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              Shaun Wilde
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              Marc Clifton wrote: A recent article (I won't say which) demonstrates this point. please do... I am hoiping to play article catch up over Xmas and with all the bad ones about I don't want to have any nightmares. Especially with the expected alcohol intake I might even start to believe them.

              Technically speaking the dictionary would define Visual Basic users as programmers.
              But here again, a very generalized, liberal definition is being employed and it's wrong
              - just plain wrong - Tom Archer 5/12/02

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                What the heck does this mean, anyways? That you have money to waste? Any time I see this as part of a person's credentials, I just KNOW that the article is crap. A recent article (I won't say which) demonstrates this point. Just thought I'd get that off my chest. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
                sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus

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                Christian Graus
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                IT means you passed any one exam from Microsoft. That includes exams on things like how to use Frontpage. It in theory means you're on the way to a 'proper' Microsoft certification, and anyone who uses MCP I also regard as a moron, it means they passed one exam and are too dumb to keep going. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
                C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
                Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002

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                  What the heck does this mean, anyways? That you have money to waste? Any time I see this as part of a person's credentials, I just KNOW that the article is crap. A recent article (I won't say which) demonstrates this point. Just thought I'd get that off my chest. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
                  sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus

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                  :Quickly checks that my MCSD credentials are not mentioned in the articles: Yeah, MCP cred's are crap. :cool: BTW. MCP means that you "struggle to improve your career chances, but either don't have much money to spend, or are to dumb to earn more, anyway"


                  If I could find a souvenir / just to prove the world was here   [sighist]

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                    And to think that I was actually thinking about getting some of those credentials to help me get a job doing what I already love doing. Oh well, guess I'll just stay in my current job of Shift Supervisor at Burger King, earning a measly $7.50 an hour. <NOTE:This message in no means reflects the actuall thoughts, concerns, or opinions of the author, the president, or the rat living in your walls. Please do not take it seriously, jokingly, lovingly, or at all.> "Don't tell me I'm smart, I might actually believe you!" "I once knew a guy who said he was a coder...The FBI arrested him two days later."

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                    Oh well, guess I'll just stay in my current job of Shift Supervisor at Burger King, earning a measly $7.50 an hour. If you make $70,000 a year as a programmer working 100 hours a week, it's close to the same hourly rate. Therefore, you'll be happier flipping burgers. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
                    Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
                    Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka

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                      Oh well, guess I'll just stay in my current job of Shift Supervisor at Burger King, earning a measly $7.50 an hour. If you make $70,000 a year as a programmer working 100 hours a week, it's close to the same hourly rate. Therefore, you'll be happier flipping burgers. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
                      Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
                      Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka

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                      Marc Clifton wrote: Therefore, you'll be happier flipping burgers. And you'll probably meet more women :((


                      he he he. I like it in the kitchen! - Marc Clifton (on taking the heat when being flamed) Awasu v0.4a[^]: A free RSS reader with support for Code Project.

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                        Marc Clifton wrote: Therefore, you'll be happier flipping burgers. And you'll probably meet more women :((


                        he he he. I like it in the kitchen! - Marc Clifton (on taking the heat when being flamed) Awasu v0.4a[^]: A free RSS reader with support for Code Project.

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                        And you'll probably meet more women Ugh. You ever seen the women that go to fast food joints? Not my cup of tea. Feeling lonely, are we? Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
                        Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
                        Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka

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                          Marc Clifton wrote: Therefore, you'll be happier flipping burgers. And you'll probably meet more women :((


                          he he he. I like it in the kitchen! - Marc Clifton (on taking the heat when being flamed) Awasu v0.4a[^]: A free RSS reader with support for Code Project.

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                          I think I may have stumbled on the ideal way to meet women! Halfway through my class on preparing income taxes it dawned on me - what better way could I ever find to meet single, well-employed or wealthy women? They have to disclose everything to me, without the barn dancing routine of the dating scene - address, phone, age, # kids, #ex-husbands, income, investments... This could be a great Spring!:-D I'll have a full report April 15... "How many times do I have to flush before you go away?" - Megan Forbes, on Management (12/5/2002)

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                            I think I may have stumbled on the ideal way to meet women! Halfway through my class on preparing income taxes it dawned on me - what better way could I ever find to meet single, well-employed or wealthy women? They have to disclose everything to me, without the barn dancing routine of the dating scene - address, phone, age, # kids, #ex-husbands, income, investments... This could be a great Spring!:-D I'll have a full report April 15... "How many times do I have to flush before you go away?" - Megan Forbes, on Management (12/5/2002)

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                            Taka Muraoka
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                            Yes, but you would have to admit to being a tax accountant. Kiss of death! I'd rather be flipping burgers :-)


                            he he he. I like it in the kitchen! - Marc Clifton (on taking the heat when being flamed) Awasu v0.4a[^]: A free RSS reader with support for Code Project.

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                              What the heck does this mean, anyways? That you have money to waste? Any time I see this as part of a person's credentials, I just KNOW that the article is crap. A recent article (I won't say which) demonstrates this point. Just thought I'd get that off my chest. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
                              sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus

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                              In India Subia Hashmat, 11 and Supriya Singh, 12 are probably the youngest "person ever to attempt and clear the Microsoft Certified Professional examination." Story at http://www.rediff.com/computer/1999/aug/04mcp.htm Meanwhile in Pakistan a 12-year girl Sheeza Ahmed "is the youngest Microsoft Certified System Engineer". Details at http://www.pakistannation.com/pakworld/youngMCSE.htm

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                                What the heck does this mean, anyways? That you have money to waste? Any time I see this as part of a person's credentials, I just KNOW that the article is crap. A recent article (I won't say which) demonstrates this point. Just thought I'd get that off my chest. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
                                sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus

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                                Minesweeper Consultant & Solitaire Expert ;P Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?

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                                  Minesweeper Consultant & Solitaire Expert ;P Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?

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                                  Marc Clifton
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                                  :laugh: Excellent! Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
                                  Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
                                  Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka

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                                    In India Subia Hashmat, 11 and Supriya Singh, 12 are probably the youngest "person ever to attempt and clear the Microsoft Certified Professional examination." Story at http://www.rediff.com/computer/1999/aug/04mcp.htm Meanwhile in Pakistan a 12-year girl Sheeza Ahmed "is the youngest Microsoft Certified System Engineer". Details at http://www.pakistannation.com/pakworld/youngMCSE.htm

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                                    Rohit Sinha
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                                    Wow! We have got some bright people in the subcontinent. I didn't know about this (these people's achievements I mean, not about bright people, which I always knew about. :-D ;P ). Thanks.
                                      Regards,

                                    Rohit Sinha

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