It came out...
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ah you got some of my old classmates I see, cant really do anything since they didn't bother to learn anything, and try to skate by on a team which is to nice to rat them out. oops, boy were they wrong about me on that part :-D
Programming is a race between programmers trying to build bigger and better idiot proof programs, and the universe trying to build bigger and better idiots, so far... the universe is winning. A graduation ceremony is an event where the commencement speaker tells thousands of students dressed in identical caps and gowns that 'individuality' is the key to success
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gavindon wrote:
nd try to skate by on a team which is to nice to rat them out
This isn't a case. He is full of a good will but he just does it wrong. And we like what we do so it doesn't really matter.
Greetings - Jacek
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Just a stupid question: what does he expect to happen? It's not aq question for your team-members, just for him... I'm really curios about the answer...
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s_mon wrote:
Just a stupid question: what does he expect to happen? It's not aq question for your team-members, just for him... I'm really curios about the answer...
If I remember I will ask this question. The answer will probably be "I don't know", though.
Greetings - Jacek
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s_mon wrote:
Just a stupid question: what does he expect to happen? It's not aq question for your team-members, just for him... I'm really curios about the answer...
If I remember I will ask this question. The answer will probably be "I don't know", though.
Greetings - Jacek
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Well me and three other students develop a c# project as an exercise from University. We have been successfuly pushing it forward, spending about 3-4 hours a week on coding in a spare time. So far so good. Recently me and other colleague realized that one guy couldn't finish a simple task -- generate a PDF with a single table filled with data. Also, he has commited a code which didn't even compile, making some trouble for others. Now the punchline incoming. It came out that he: 1. has never coded C# before (Ruby is a preferred language for business apps so why bother with some MS sh*t) 2. hadn't use any C# compiler or installed any IDE (despite we have VS 2010 Ultimate from MSDNAA) 3. coded everything off-line and commited hoping that somebody would finally compile it and tell him that there were compilation errors. 4. did't use Windows. OK, but since we develop an app which target platform is Windows... Ah -- and it's a 4th year of studying computer science. I feel like I missed something. :doh:
Greetings - Jacek
What did his code look like? I would be kinda impressed if what a C# newbie wrote without an IDE is still okay code :)
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What did his code look like? I would be kinda impressed if what a C# newbie wrote without an IDE is still okay code :)
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:laugh: that would the perfect start for me to do the "interrogation"... :cool:
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I did ask the question. The answer was silence (embarassed? irritated? hard to say)... Unfortunately there wasn't any way to apply some tortures.:cool:
Greetings - Jacek
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Well me and three other students develop a c# project as an exercise from University. We have been successfuly pushing it forward, spending about 3-4 hours a week on coding in a spare time. So far so good. Recently me and other colleague realized that one guy couldn't finish a simple task -- generate a PDF with a single table filled with data. Also, he has commited a code which didn't even compile, making some trouble for others. Now the punchline incoming. It came out that he: 1. has never coded C# before (Ruby is a preferred language for business apps so why bother with some MS sh*t) 2. hadn't use any C# compiler or installed any IDE (despite we have VS 2010 Ultimate from MSDNAA) 3. coded everything off-line and commited hoping that somebody would finally compile it and tell him that there were compilation errors. 4. did't use Windows. OK, but since we develop an app which target platform is Windows... Ah -- and it's a 4th year of studying computer science. I feel like I missed something. :doh:
Greetings - Jacek
Jacek Gajek wrote:
spending about 3-4 hours a week
Im a second year and we would spend around 8 - 16 hours a week... You find that spending more time early on makes any team issue come out sooner than you think ;)
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Jacek Gajek wrote:
spending about 3-4 hours a week
Im a second year and we would spend around 8 - 16 hours a week... You find that spending more time early on makes any team issue come out sooner than you think ;)
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Well me and three other students develop a c# project as an exercise from University. We have been successfuly pushing it forward, spending about 3-4 hours a week on coding in a spare time. So far so good. Recently me and other colleague realized that one guy couldn't finish a simple task -- generate a PDF with a single table filled with data. Also, he has commited a code which didn't even compile, making some trouble for others. Now the punchline incoming. It came out that he: 1. has never coded C# before (Ruby is a preferred language for business apps so why bother with some MS sh*t) 2. hadn't use any C# compiler or installed any IDE (despite we have VS 2010 Ultimate from MSDNAA) 3. coded everything off-line and commited hoping that somebody would finally compile it and tell him that there were compilation errors. 4. did't use Windows. OK, but since we develop an app which target platform is Windows... Ah -- and it's a 4th year of studying computer science. I feel like I missed something. :doh:
Greetings - Jacek
Sounds like a regular nerd to me. probably a guru on linux or python or whatnot, so he doesn't expect much from the class/project and expects the "people who actually need to learn" to do the work, because he, if he really tried, would do the stuff in a snap. I used to have a manager for our software team who is actually guru contributor on linux that didn't do squat for the team, coding was in PHP and very simple stuff, ended up killing the whole project.
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Sounds like a regular nerd to me. probably a guru on linux or python or whatnot, so he doesn't expect much from the class/project and expects the "people who actually need to learn" to do the work, because he, if he really tried, would do the stuff in a snap. I used to have a manager for our software team who is actually guru contributor on linux that didn't do squat for the team, coding was in PHP and very simple stuff, ended up killing the whole project.
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fuximus wrote:
didn't do squat for the team
What does it mean? [it makes no sense if literally translated so it must be an idiom]
Greetings - Jacek
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Well me and three other students develop a c# project as an exercise from University. We have been successfuly pushing it forward, spending about 3-4 hours a week on coding in a spare time. So far so good. Recently me and other colleague realized that one guy couldn't finish a simple task -- generate a PDF with a single table filled with data. Also, he has commited a code which didn't even compile, making some trouble for others. Now the punchline incoming. It came out that he: 1. has never coded C# before (Ruby is a preferred language for business apps so why bother with some MS sh*t) 2. hadn't use any C# compiler or installed any IDE (despite we have VS 2010 Ultimate from MSDNAA) 3. coded everything off-line and commited hoping that somebody would finally compile it and tell him that there were compilation errors. 4. did't use Windows. OK, but since we develop an app which target platform is Windows... Ah -- and it's a 4th year of studying computer science. I feel like I missed something. :doh:
Greetings - Jacek
This is a similar situation to my undergrad life. There was a guy in my class that couldn't code to save his own life. He got me to write his stuff and one day he says "do you think what we are doing is wrong?" I said "nope ... I'm learning ... and you are giving me more ways to learn by letting me write your stuff. You will either learn it now, learn it later, or get fired later." He installs software for a living now.
Brad Barnhill
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This is a similar situation to my undergrad life. There was a guy in my class that couldn't code to save his own life. He got me to write his stuff and one day he says "do you think what we are doing is wrong?" I said "nope ... I'm learning ... and you are giving me more ways to learn by letting me write your stuff. You will either learn it now, learn it later, or get fired later." He installs software for a living now.
Brad Barnhill