Unisex toilets
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When I saw Bon Jovi, the ladies toilet had a huge queue, so I was in the mens, at the urinal, and I noticed several guys walking their girlfriends to the stalls in the mens. I'm sure we'd lose a lot of toilet access to unisex toilets. But, I don't see what the big deal is.
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I don't think there is a big deal, it is mostly tradition. And traditions don't change quickly, unless there is a good reason for change. Festival activities could be a bit different, I guess I don't have to tell you ... :-D
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I assumed urinals (American or Australian style) would't exist in a unisex public washroom, that it would be stalls only.
I was HollyHooo but got tired of it.
IMO unisex toilets without urinals would need more square meters to serve the same amount of people mens and ladies toilets do. :)
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IMO unisex toilets without urinals would need more square meters to serve the same amount of people mens and ladies toilets do. :)
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CP Vanity has been updated to V2.4Understood. But since that's not going to happen: increased average wait time for men!
I was HollyHooo but got tired of it and Sebastien was taken.
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Understood. But since that's not going to happen: increased average wait time for men!
I was HollyHooo but got tired of it and Sebastien was taken.
When going to the pub you shouldn't be wasting your time in the loo waiting! :)
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When going to the pub you shouldn't be wasting your time in the loo waiting! :)
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CP Vanity has been updated to V2.4I was not aware they served beer in grade school in Australia! :)
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RC_Sebastien_C wrote:
The biggest downside I could think of if everything was unisex would be the dissapearance of urinals and a significant increase in men's average wait time to pee if waiting lines were to even out :)
I noticed that European urinals are like US ones, where everyone has their own urinal, and a little wall so no-one else gets a glimpse of your weiner. In Australia, we have one long urinal and we all just stand there and pee. If they were US style ones, I don't see how anyone could have an issue, and I don't care if they were the sort we have here. I assume no woman WANTS to see me pee.
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Christian Graus wrote:
I noticed that European urinals are like US ones, where everyone has their own urinal, and a little wall so no-one else gets a glimpse of your weiner.
It wasn't always that way here though. I distinctly remember troughs being popular in all kinds of public places in Canada and the U.S. when I was a kid. They still use temporary troughs at some public events. The Costco near me has put in a trough-style sink. One big stainless steel trough with a bunch of taps. Lots cheaper to install clean I would think. Maybe the urinals are next. Cheers, Drew.
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Well, in fairness, we have more trees than most people.
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it is more like your trees have fewer people. Our tree population is pretty much the same I guess, however our human population is like 100 times yours. Per square kilometer that is. :)
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I was not aware they served beer in grade school in Australia! :)
I was HollyHooo but got tired of it and Sebastien was taken.
Duh. Don't you ?
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it is more like your trees have fewer people. Our tree population is pretty much the same I guess, however our human population is like 100 times yours. Per square kilometer that is. :)
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When going to the pub you shouldn't be wasting your time in the loo waiting! :)
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CP Vanity has been updated to V2.4And, if you had to wait too long, always carry around a bag with fresh pants and underwear :)
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http://www.themercury.com.au/article/2011/06/10/236431_tasmania-news.html[^] I don't see the big deal. I'd use a unisex toilet, I could care less. Do they exist commonly anywhere else ? Not America, obviously, Americans tend to be uptight. What about Europe ?
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I voted in favor of it; they didn't bother to check where I live, so it's their own damned fault if the results are weird. It's a biological process that we all share, though approximately 50% of us find it simple to perform a part of the process standing up, while the other half finds it more convenient to sit down. I can see no reason to subject children to a ritual which emphasizes the differences between genders, rather than the similarities. Perhaps introducing this Unisex approach to a fundamental need at a young age will help to build healthier attitudes toward the opposite sex in both boys and girls. The radical Christian fundamentalists will, of course, see this as the work of Satan, but I have trouble imagining any little boy or girl being sexually aroused by the knowledge that there might be a girl or boy in the adjacent stall taking a dump. That's an image I find singularly inappropriate as a sexual fantasy.
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http://www.themercury.com.au/article/2011/06/10/236431_tasmania-news.html[^] I don't see the big deal. I'd use a unisex toilet, I could care less. Do they exist commonly anywhere else ? Not America, obviously, Americans tend to be uptight. What about Europe ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Many smaller restaurants only have one toilet, and I don't recall hearing anyone complain about it. I don't see the problem, as long as there are no urinals.
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http://www.themercury.com.au/article/2011/06/10/236431_tasmania-news.html[^] I don't see the big deal. I'd use a unisex toilet, I could care less. Do they exist commonly anywhere else ? Not America, obviously, Americans tend to be uptight. What about Europe ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
We have such a unisex toilet at home for a couple of years. And yes, it works so far, no complaints, nothing.
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http://www.themercury.com.au/article/2011/06/10/236431_tasmania-news.html[^] I don't see the big deal. I'd use a unisex toilet, I could care less. Do they exist commonly anywhere else ? Not America, obviously, Americans tend to be uptight. What about Europe ?
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I've used them in France and Spain and at a couple of restaurants in the UK. I worked at one place where one of the cleaning crew, a woman, would regularly walk into and start cleaning the men's toilets. Bit odd at first but you don't even notice after a few times. Besides, we all go to the toilet so what's the big deal?
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http://www.themercury.com.au/article/2011/06/10/236431_tasmania-news.html[^] I don't see the big deal. I'd use a unisex toilet, I could care less. Do they exist commonly anywhere else ? Not America, obviously, Americans tend to be uptight. What about Europe ?
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I remember a club in Manchester with unisex toilets (urinals were in a separate area of the toilets for modesty) and it worked very well, good use of space and it seemed that people behaved well. Churchills if I remember correctly.
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http://www.themercury.com.au/article/2011/06/10/236431_tasmania-news.html[^] I don't see the big deal. I'd use a unisex toilet, I could care less. Do they exist commonly anywhere else ? Not America, obviously, Americans tend to be uptight. What about Europe ?
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Go to Amsterdam on a Saturday night. The local authority drop off street toilets early in the evening. They are star shaped plastic things, and within each recess of the star is a unisex urinal. There is no door, you just stand in the street and pee, using the arms of the star as the privacy zone. (It is assumed that from behind there is nothing offensive to be seen). Women either push up close and straddle if facing in, or, as I have seen the majority do, present themselves backward to it and bend over slightly. I think it a great idea, it keeps the piss of the streets and out of the canals, and is carted away each morning by the city workers. Here is an example[^]
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When I saw Bon Jovi, the ladies toilet had a huge queue, so I was in the mens, at the urinal, and I noticed several guys walking their girlfriends to the stalls in the mens. I'm sure we'd lose a lot of toilet access to unisex toilets. But, I don't see what the big deal is.
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There used to be (may still be for all I know, I haven't been there for 17 years) a club in Morecambe called The Carlton which had nowhere near enough female toilets. They always used the cubicles in the gents, and I saw many use the urinals too. And once in a pub in Lancaster I was using a urinal, my mate was in the one cubicle in the gents having a sit down when another bloke came in with his girlfriend who was desperate but trying to avoid the queue in the ladies. So she used the urinal next to the one I was using. I think in both cases above alcohol may have reduced the natural inhibitions. At festivals where there are nowhere near enough toilets for anyone the fences are used be men and women alike. I don't see the problem, OK some weird people get over excited by women urinating, but some get turned on by women's feet too and there are plenty of unisex shoe shops.
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When I saw Bon Jovi, the ladies toilet had a huge queue, so I was in the mens, at the urinal, and I noticed several guys walking their girlfriends to the stalls in the mens. I'm sure we'd lose a lot of toilet access to unisex toilets. But, I don't see what the big deal is.
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I remember reading some time ago about a new exhibition center being constructed. The center's principle users were the local orchestra, opera, and theatre companies. The 'facilities' were designed to adapt to the anticipated ratio of men/women at each event with movable walls and modular fixtures.
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Christian Graus wrote:
I noticed that European urinals are like US ones, where everyone has their own urinal, and a little wall so no-one else gets a glimpse of your weiner.
It wasn't always that way here though. I distinctly remember troughs being popular in all kinds of public places in Canada and the U.S. when I was a kid. They still use temporary troughs at some public events. The Costco near me has put in a trough-style sink. One big stainless steel trough with a bunch of taps. Lots cheaper to install clean I would think. Maybe the urinals are next. Cheers, Drew.
Drew Stainton wrote:
The Costco near me has put in a trough-style sink. One big stainless steel trough with a bunch of taps.
Sounds like our local Wal-Mart. The automatic water faucets are mis-calibrated, however. You have to cover the sensor with one hand while you rinse the other :thumbsdown:.
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http://www.themercury.com.au/article/2011/06/10/236431_tasmania-news.html[^] I don't see the big deal. I'd use a unisex toilet, I could care less. Do they exist commonly anywhere else ? Not America, obviously, Americans tend to be uptight. What about Europe ?
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