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    http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/06/microsoft-developers-windows-8/

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      Could you post as a clickable link instead of just URL?

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        http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/06/microsoft-developers-windows-8/[^]

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          Could you post as a clickable link instead of just URL?

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          Here you go :)

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            Here you go :)

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            Thanks, I didn't need it, but I know others were going to request it be posted that way. I was just trying to help out an infrequent poster.

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              http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/06/microsoft-developers-windows-8/

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              Does this surprise you? It shouldn't!

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                Scary how? Because MS might 'do a VB6' on Silverlight? Or scary that the might be embracing a more open standard? :) This is exciting, not scary. If people can write apps in something other than proprietary tools and frameworks then it might earn MS some street-cred and get some more developers on-side. God knows they need to do something as they are looking increasingly irrelevant.

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                  I see we have another Harold Camping. This is a misinterpretation of the good word. At no time did Microsoft say WPF/Silverlight are going to be abandoned.

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                    It's probably a marketing gaffe, on the other hand if windows is going on arm processors then .net could really be in trouble, with the fact that the plug has been pulled on mono. I'm not a fan of WPF as I find it too complex and bloated in it's implementation ( the idea is great decoupling the view from the backend code), and silverlight is much better and leaner but lacks essentials for true business applications. That's my 2 cents.

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                      Honestly, I don't think it's scary at all. The HTML 5/JavaScript layer is for the touch screen apps, the .NET/Silverlight/WPF/Winforms is for "legacy" apps. People have been blowing this way out of proportion ever since the video was released. I get the feeling that although this is a big announcement from Microsoft, we as developers will find little changed in the technology end. Anyone developing for Windows Phone 7 will have a slight advantage since the tile concept is roughly the same. I'm looking forward to digging into the new APIs myself. :-\ Flynn

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                        Yep. The teeny-tiny seriphed font on that page scares me. I hope the rest of the worlds tech venues don't move to painful renderings of information that may be important.

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                            Gwd, that whole video presentation is a mess. You got an "Evangelist" trying to sell her stuff, a couple of old geeks geezers who are more interested in what CPU the test rig has and who are also skeptics who want MS Word using html5 and javascript !!! loosers (really, WTF!!) ) They should not have done a tablet shell on a desktop/laptop. They should have continued improving and enhancing Windows phone 7 OS for the tablet and phones and continued with Windows on desktop and laptops.

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                              Here you go :)

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                              Thanks - don't know why - was having problems today doing that..

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                                If it's from Wired, you can almost be guaranteed it's Much Ado About Nothing.

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                                  Doesn't anyone remember active desktop, hta files and behaviors? Microsoft put a lot of effort into working proprietary HTML into the OS UI in 98, and then yanked it all after the Netscape and EU lawsuits. It looks like they are going back to their original plan, though hopefully in a way that is less likely to cause it all to get yanked again.

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                                    Scary how? Because MS might 'do a VB6' on Silverlight? Or scary that the might be embracing a more open standard? :) This is exciting, not scary. If people can write apps in something other than proprietary tools and frameworks then it might earn MS some street-cred and get some more developers on-side. God knows they need to do something as they are looking increasingly irrelevant.

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                                    I agree wholeheartedly, besides, what are the MSDN developer licenses going for these days? this is M$ grabbing for a lifeline, and perhaps they will succeed.

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                                      Doesn't anyone remember active desktop, hta files and behaviors? Microsoft put a lot of effort into working proprietary HTML into the OS UI in 98, and then yanked it all after the Netscape and EU lawsuits. It looks like they are going back to their original plan, though hopefully in a way that is less likely to cause it all to get yanked again.

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                                      AS long as they don't Pirate the standards this time, and dilute the solutions.

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                                        I fail to see what the problem is. They wanted to Show their new "Tabletified" Metro interface to say "Hey, look, we're in with the cool kids too", and why not, they do have to sell software after all. Metro isn't suitable for proper desktops, so Aero is still there. The HTML5 they showed was the "Panels" really just Widgets++ that we've had in Vista and Win7 AFAICT. I *doubt* that Microsoft hasn't considered how applications are going to be developed for its spanky new OS, after all this is the main thing it has over the Control-Freakery that is Mac and the tooling for HTML5 (or just HTML) just isn't there yet. We may see a "write like a Desktop render to HTML5" strategy somehow, even using WPF for instance. I'm quite excited even if we do have new technologies to learn, this is one of the best things about IT.

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                                          Have you watched the whole videos? 1) They are not going to abandon .Net 2) You can choose that touchy wp7 like interface or the normal(win 7 like) desktop. 3) It will still run good old legacy win apps(on x86 machines). On ARM sure there will be a version of office and the likes for ARM but legacy apps(especially C/C++ ones) not so much. 4) Hell you could even write winforms apps for it! So why scary? Why panic? No need just yet. :)

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