Casual Friday Acceptability
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But the brown streak is bad form.
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To each their own. I guess I don't worry about wearing a hat in my own house to be a big deal. I could care less if my son does either. I try not to sweat the small stuff if I can.
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Is it acceptable to wear a hat inside on "Casual Friday"... Not that I want to. I think it is wrong and there is someone where I am working right now that tends to wear a hat on Friday. Last week it was a flat cap and this week it is a plain black baseball cap. Well what do you all think, Acceptable or not? And has anyone pushed the limits for casual friday where you are?
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
Can't wait until the teleworking kicks in. Then on casual Fridays I'll be a descamisado sans cullotes.
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Is it acceptable to wear a hat inside on "Casual Friday"... Not that I want to. I think it is wrong and there is someone where I am working right now that tends to wear a hat on Friday. Last week it was a flat cap and this week it is a plain black baseball cap. Well what do you all think, Acceptable or not? And has anyone pushed the limits for casual friday where you are?
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
As long as the hat is appropriate to your clothes, why not? Although there are some circumstances when wearing a hat is inappropriate (inside a church, for instance) there is no level of formality where a hat is inappropriate. Although I have a thing against baseball caps: caps are not hats. How about a nice boater, or a straw fedora?
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Wearing a hat indoors is wrong. Wearing a hat whilst eating is just plain rude. I don't trust men in hats. Or with beards. Or who wear contact lenses. All very suspicious behaviour trying to cover up for something.
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ChrisElston wrote:
I don't trust men in hats. Or with beards. Or who wear contact lenses. All very suspicious behaviour trying to cover up for something.
I don't think we would get along very well, then. :~
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I hate wearing hats indoors. I invariably bang my head into something, sooner or later.
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GenJerDan wrote:
I invariably bang my head into something, sooner or later.
I can do that just fine with a hat on. :)
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That pisses me off to no end. Do I wear a at at work? no I rarely wear a hat at all. But the issue stands at this, who the hell are you(generally speaking, not directed at the OP) to tell me that a hat is rude? Who was the almighty stand-in for God that said wearing hats was a rude thing to do? The same person that says a beard is unacceptable(no I don't have one, nor want one) or the same person that thinks a 900 dollar suit means I am more professional than the guy wearing jeans. My current job is jeans by the way, I am not a customer facing person at all, my "customers" and end users of my software are employees of the company. I get sooooo sick and tired of the PC bulls**t that goes on like this. Because I am not a pretentious ass and choose to not dress in a suit suddenly means I am of less value that the pretentious ass who barely knows how to start visual studio.. By the way wearing hats in the USA used to be the only way to go. Travel back in time to the old west and days following shortly after it, If you didn't wear a hat you were most likely looked at strangely. So what almighty council decided it should stop being that way? or that it should have been that way to start with? on and on and on......
Programming is a race between programmers trying to build bigger and better idiot proof programs, and the universe trying to build bigger and better idiots, so far... the universe is winning. A crisis on your part does not constitute one on mine.
Now that's the ticket! Tell'em how you really feel. :-D Drugs, murder, sickness, disease, death vs. wearing a hat indoors. Silly actually.
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Is he, perhaps, expecting rain inside the office or is strong sunshine impeding his vision, perhaps he's about to putt on the 15th hole? Is he 15 years old? If none of the aforementioned then he's just a dick.
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digital man wrote:
he's just a dick.
I wear a baseball cap every day why does that make me a dick? Now granted I am a dick but not because I wear the cap! :-D
The environment that nurtures creative programmers kills management and marketing types - and vice versa. - Orson Scott Card
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ChrisElston wrote:
Wearing a hat indoors is wrong.
Wearing a hat whilst eating is just plain rude.Not here in the States. Of course, you need to use good judgement. You wouldn't wear a baseball cap at a 4 star restaurant.
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Surely the point of casual days is to let people wear what they want? We don't have a casual Friday so no comment there.
BobJanova wrote:
Surely the point of casual days is to let people wear what they want?
Where I am I think it's more about extracting $5/head for the charity of the week for the right to wear denim pants. :rolleyes: I express my opinion by ignoring it and wearing the same sort of slacks I do the rest of the week.
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There has to remain a certain professionalism at a place of work. Lets go the extreme... A new intern girl (heck it could be a guy too) wears a T-Shirt that says Insert &%^$ here with an arrow pointing up.... Well. Not kewl and not professional. Granted that is an extreme. But the idea remains the same. If something is not considered appropriate or profesional you should not do it in the place of work. Hats indoors have always had a "juvinille" look and feel. But, that IMO. I wouldn't do it, as I said I think it is wrong. Am I gonna tell him. No. Cause I don't really care much what other people wear or do. However, if I had to actually interact with the guy (say we were on the same team or something), I have no respect for him so it would affect the project.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
Collin Jasnoch wrote:
Hats indoors have always had a "juvinille" look and feel.
I think you might be in the minority on that opinion. But honestly this entire discussion about hats is baffling to me. Is it OK to wear a watch at work? What about glasses? If I walk with a cane am I unprofessional?
Collin Jasnoch wrote:
A new intern girl (heck it could be a guy too) wears a T-Shirt that says Insert &%^$ here with an arrow pointing up.... Well. Not kewl and not professional.
Again, if the shirt doesn't affect their ability to perform their job... NOBODY should care. If I need somebody to manage a database and the most qualified person has a mo-hawk and facial tattoos: they get the job.
Collin Jasnoch wrote:
I have no respect for him
If you are choosing not to respect somebody for what they choose to put on their head I'm glad I don't work with you. I do wish you the best of luck in getting that stick dislodged from your... :omg:
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There has to remain a certain professionalism at a place of work. Lets go the extreme... A new intern girl (heck it could be a guy too) wears a T-Shirt that says Insert &%^$ here with an arrow pointing up.... Well. Not kewl and not professional. Granted that is an extreme. But the idea remains the same. If something is not considered appropriate or profesional you should not do it in the place of work. Hats indoors have always had a "juvinille" look and feel. But, that IMO. I wouldn't do it, as I said I think it is wrong. Am I gonna tell him. No. Cause I don't really care much what other people wear or do. However, if I had to actually interact with the guy (say we were on the same team or something), I have no respect for him so it would affect the project.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
Collin Jasnoch wrote:
I have no respect for him so it would affect the project.
so you would allow your personal feelings about a hat damage the bottom line and end goals of the organization? maybe you just need more strength of character.
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Is it acceptable to wear a hat inside on "Casual Friday"... Not that I want to. I think it is wrong and there is someone where I am working right now that tends to wear a hat on Friday. Last week it was a flat cap and this week it is a plain black baseball cap. Well what do you all think, Acceptable or not? And has anyone pushed the limits for casual friday where you are?
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
Maybe OP does not know that it is offending you - due to cultural differences or generation gap. A simple talk may resolve it. :)
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Slacker007 wrote:
You wouldn't wear a baseball cap at a 4 star restaurant.
I would! But I'm a dick! :laugh:
The environment that nurtures creative programmers kills management and marketing types - and vice versa. - Orson Scott Card
Joe Simes wrote:
I would! But I'm a dick!
:laugh: I once went to a very posh, high-class restaurant a few years ago and I did EVERYTHING wrong as far as etiquette. Elbows on the table, using the wrong silverware for my individual courses, left the napkin on the table, talking with my mouth full. You name it, I did it. You can dress me up but you can't take me out. Needless to say, I had a blast. :)
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Wearing a hat indoors is wrong. Wearing a hat whilst eating is just plain rude. I don't trust men in hats. Or with beards. Or who wear contact lenses. All very suspicious behaviour trying to cover up for something.
Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.
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My new job, jeans and collared shirt. My old job was casual everyday, I'm actually shocked at what I used to wear there. On a side note, we had a new guy start yesterday. He showed up at 9.30 with a strange dress shirt and no tie and canvas shoes. Believe me, the dress code was made clear to him; business (shirt tie slacks minimum, suits are common). Our casual Friday requires a collared shirt, he wore a superhero t-shirt and showed up at 9.30 again.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
wizardzz wrote:
he wore a superhero t-shirt
I don't deal with rules. I've always worked in a creative environment (except my current job) and therefore dress codes have been lax or nonexistent! Even in the classy joints the programmers were always given free reign to dress however they liked. I went to a Catholic high school and we had a dress code (button down shirts and slacks and no sneakers). I always stretched the limits. I used to buy the cheapest paper thin white button down dress shirts and then wear the black Led Zeppelin or Rush or Ozzy Osborne t-shirt underneath it! Oh and cowboy boots. I hate cowboy boots but I was way better than loafers or deck shoes! Today I have on Chuck-T's[^] rolled up Levis a blue t-shirt and an unbuttoned Hawaiian shirt - which is actually pretty dressed up for me since I am heading out to the pub after work and you gotta impress the ladies!! :-\
The environment that nurtures creative programmers kills management and marketing types - and vice versa. - Orson Scott Card
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Joe Simes wrote:
I would! But I'm a dick!
:laugh: I once went to a very posh, high-class restaurant a few years ago and I did EVERYTHING wrong as far as etiquette. Elbows on the table, using the wrong silverware for my individual courses, left the napkin on the table, talking with my mouth full. You name it, I did it. You can dress me up but you can't take me out. Needless to say, I had a blast. :)
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I usually go to the most obnoxiously posh places I can find dress and act like myself (see above). But I am never rude to the wait staff and I always leave a huge tip. Needless to say I am welcome at most places I go. :-D And I usually get a nice quiet table all by my lonesome which is great for flirting with the waitresses! ;)
The environment that nurtures creative programmers kills management and marketing types - and vice versa. - Orson Scott Card
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digital man wrote:
he's just a dick.
I wear a baseball cap every day why does that make me a dick? Now granted I am a dick but not because I wear the cap! :-D
The environment that nurtures creative programmers kills management and marketing types - and vice versa. - Orson Scott Card
Joe Simes wrote:
Now granted I am a dick but not because I wear the cap!
I thought capping the dick was considered the healthy thing to do by everyone but the Pope.
The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.
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Wearing a hat indoors is wrong. Wearing a hat whilst eating is just plain rude. I don't trust men in hats. Or with beards. Or who wear contact lenses. All very suspicious behaviour trying to cover up for something.
Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.
ChrisElston wrote:
I don't trust men in hats. Or with beards.
No wonder Santa Claus skips your house.
The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.
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wizardzz wrote:
he wore a superhero t-shirt
I don't deal with rules. I've always worked in a creative environment (except my current job) and therefore dress codes have been lax or nonexistent! Even in the classy joints the programmers were always given free reign to dress however they liked. I went to a Catholic high school and we had a dress code (button down shirts and slacks and no sneakers). I always stretched the limits. I used to buy the cheapest paper thin white button down dress shirts and then wear the black Led Zeppelin or Rush or Ozzy Osborne t-shirt underneath it! Oh and cowboy boots. I hate cowboy boots but I was way better than loafers or deck shoes! Today I have on Chuck-T's[^] rolled up Levis a blue t-shirt and an unbuttoned Hawaiian shirt - which is actually pretty dressed up for me since I am heading out to the pub after work and you gotta impress the ladies!! :-\
The environment that nurtures creative programmers kills management and marketing types - and vice versa. - Orson Scott Card
Look at my profile picture and my signature quote, do I look like the type to conform? However, everyone has a price. I do get sick of the dress code, but I still smile when I get my paystub. This is not the type of place where programmers are revered as eccentric, rock star types. I have been there, and it leads to ego-wars. I have learned to confine my urge to express myself through my always interesting and rarely appropriate socks. When I got my job 8 months ago, I basically stole my wardrobe from this guy: http://findthatstyle.com/celebrities/Adam_Scott[^]
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson