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What's worse: lazy or slow? [modified]

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    Fabio Franco
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    What do you guys think it's worse? Someone that spends half of the day surfing the web because he can work faster than the others, or the others that can't work fast enough? [Edit] The main reason I'm asking is because the lazy guy might look bad because he's seen by others surfing all the time, but yet, produces the same amount of products. While the slow guy could actually look like a much more dedicated employee and look better in the company.

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      What do you guys think it's worse? Someone that spends half of the day surfing the web because he can work faster than the others, or the others that can't work fast enough? [Edit] The main reason I'm asking is because the lazy guy might look bad because he's seen by others surfing all the time, but yet, produces the same amount of products. While the slow guy could actually look like a much more dedicated employee and look better in the company.

      modified on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 4:43 PM

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      Christian Graus
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      The slow guy. You can always push the web surfer guy to work more.

      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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        What do you guys think it's worse? Someone that spends half of the day surfing the web because he can work faster than the others, or the others that can't work fast enough? [Edit] The main reason I'm asking is because the lazy guy might look bad because he's seen by others surfing all the time, but yet, produces the same amount of products. While the slow guy could actually look like a much more dedicated employee and look better in the company.

        modified on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 4:43 PM

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        thrakazog
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        Considering that the people who read this are on the internet.. many at work... My self serving vote is that the latter is worse. :-D

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          What do you guys think it's worse? Someone that spends half of the day surfing the web because he can work faster than the others, or the others that can't work fast enough? [Edit] The main reason I'm asking is because the lazy guy might look bad because he's seen by others surfing all the time, but yet, produces the same amount of products. While the slow guy could actually look like a much more dedicated employee and look better in the company.

          modified on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 4:43 PM

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          AspDotNetDev
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          I'm a surfer. :cool: I wouldn't want to make the others look bad. :-\

          Help a brotha out and vote Managing Your JavaScript Library in ASP.NET as the best ASP.NET article of May 2011.

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          • F Fabio Franco

            What do you guys think it's worse? Someone that spends half of the day surfing the web because he can work faster than the others, or the others that can't work fast enough? [Edit] The main reason I'm asking is because the lazy guy might look bad because he's seen by others surfing all the time, but yet, produces the same amount of products. While the slow guy could actually look like a much more dedicated employee and look better in the company.

            modified on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 4:43 PM

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            Mark_Wallace
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            Productivity is, as always, the key issue. If your work is done on time and it meets good standards, you can surf the net as much as you like -- you've done your share. If you don't do your share, then you and I may have a problem.

            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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              What do you guys think it's worse? Someone that spends half of the day surfing the web because he can work faster than the others, or the others that can't work fast enough? [Edit] The main reason I'm asking is because the lazy guy might look bad because he's seen by others surfing all the time, but yet, produces the same amount of products. While the slow guy could actually look like a much more dedicated employee and look better in the company.

              modified on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 4:43 PM

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              Ian Shlasko
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              The slow guy is worse... The "lazy" one might not be lazy... It's called "managing expectations." Unless you report to another developer, your boss probably has no idea how long a programming task should take. Therefore, you can usually afford to pace yourself... Why? The faster you work, the more work will be assigned to you or expected from you, until you end up rushing constantly to meet your deadlines. A few weeks/months of this, and you'll be stressed out, eager to quit, and generally in a horrible mood. If you take it easy, you can go longer without "burning out" and desperately needing a vacation If you're not rushing, you can give your work more thought, and probably write better code, which could save you a lot of trouble later. Less stress means you like your job more (Or hate it less), and aren't (as) miserable all day. This will affect how you interact with your coworkers. When a surprise deadline pops up, or you get into crunch time, you can put in the extra effort and speed, temporarily, to meet it. Obviously, this only works if you're talented enough that your normal speed is faster than necessary... If you're actually a slow worker, slowing down like this probably just gets you fired.

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                What do you guys think it's worse? Someone that spends half of the day surfing the web because he can work faster than the others, or the others that can't work fast enough? [Edit] The main reason I'm asking is because the lazy guy might look bad because he's seen by others surfing all the time, but yet, produces the same amount of products. While the slow guy could actually look like a much more dedicated employee and look better in the company.

                modified on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 4:43 PM

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                clientSurfer
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                Peter Gibbons: The thing is, Bob, it's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care. Bob Porter: Don't... don't care? Peter Gibbons: It's a problem of motivation, all right? Now if I work my ass off and Initech ships a few extra units, I don't see another dime, so where's the motivation? And here's something else, Bob: I have eight different bosses right now. Bob Slydell: I beg your pardon? Peter Gibbons: Eight bosses. Bob Slydell: Eight? Peter Gibbons: Eight, Bob. So that means that when I make a mistake, I have eight different people coming by to tell me about it. That's my only real motivation is not to be hassled, that and the fear of losing my job. But you know, Bob, that will only make someone work just hard enough not to get fired.

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                  Peter Gibbons: The thing is, Bob, it's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care. Bob Porter: Don't... don't care? Peter Gibbons: It's a problem of motivation, all right? Now if I work my ass off and Initech ships a few extra units, I don't see another dime, so where's the motivation? And here's something else, Bob: I have eight different bosses right now. Bob Slydell: I beg your pardon? Peter Gibbons: Eight bosses. Bob Slydell: Eight? Peter Gibbons: Eight, Bob. So that means that when I make a mistake, I have eight different people coming by to tell me about it. That's my only real motivation is not to be hassled, that and the fear of losing my job. But you know, Bob, that will only make someone work just hard enough not to get fired.

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                  AspDotNetDev
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                  I guess we don't need to ask if you are a surfer. :rolleyes:

                  Help a brotha out and vote Managing Your JavaScript Library in ASP.NET as the best ASP.NET article of May 2011.

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                    The slow guy. You can always push the web surfer guy to work more.

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                    Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                    We need to look into why the guy is slow rather than blaming him. If he has the right passion for his job and equipped with the right info, he should be on the track right in good speed.

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                      Peter Gibbons: The thing is, Bob, it's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care. Bob Porter: Don't... don't care? Peter Gibbons: It's a problem of motivation, all right? Now if I work my ass off and Initech ships a few extra units, I don't see another dime, so where's the motivation? And here's something else, Bob: I have eight different bosses right now. Bob Slydell: I beg your pardon? Peter Gibbons: Eight bosses. Bob Slydell: Eight? Peter Gibbons: Eight, Bob. So that means that when I make a mistake, I have eight different people coming by to tell me about it. That's my only real motivation is not to be hassled, that and the fear of losing my job. But you know, Bob, that will only make someone work just hard enough not to get fired.

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                      Colin Mullikin
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                      Damn, it feels good to be a gangsta. :laugh: :laugh: I love that scene.

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                      • A AspDotNetDev

                        I guess we don't need to ask if you are a surfer. :rolleyes:

                        Help a brotha out and vote Managing Your JavaScript Library in ASP.NET as the best ASP.NET article of May 2011.

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                        Ya but I'm coding too... :-O

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                        • C Christian Graus

                          The slow guy. You can always push the web surfer guy to work more.

                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                          Fabio Franco
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                          Christian Graus wrote:

                          web surfer guy to work more.

                          How will you know who is the web surfer? :laugh:

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                            Considering that the people who read this are on the internet.. many at work... My self serving vote is that the latter is worse. :-D

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                            Fabio Franco
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                            That's also my opinion, but you know, the lazy one might look bad when people see he's surfing all the time...

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                            • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                              We need to look into why the guy is slow rather than blaming him. If he has the right passion for his job and equipped with the right info, he should be on the track right in good speed.

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                              The woods are lovely, dark and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep!

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                              Christian Graus
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                              Of course you need to give people a heads up and try to encourage them, you don't just fire someone. In this country, you can't legally do that anyhow.

                              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                              • F Fabio Franco

                                Christian Graus wrote:

                                web surfer guy to work more.

                                How will you know who is the web surfer? :laugh:

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                                Christian Graus
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                                By tracking such things, or just walking past and seeing ebay a lot, I guess...

                                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                  By tracking such things, or just walking past and seeing ebay a lot, I guess...

                                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                  Fabio Franco
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                                  Christian Graus wrote:

                                  seeing ebay a lot

                                  :laugh: That's actually the point I was trying to reach. Won't seeing the guy that is on ebay a lot actually make him look worse than the one that is slow?

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                                  • A AspDotNetDev

                                    I'm a surfer. :cool: I wouldn't want to make the others look bad. :-\

                                    Help a brotha out and vote Managing Your JavaScript Library in ASP.NET as the best ASP.NET article of May 2011.

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                                    Fabio Franco
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                                    :laugh: You're so kind

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                                    • M Mark_Wallace

                                      Productivity is, as always, the key issue. If your work is done on time and it meets good standards, you can surf the net as much as you like -- you've done your share. If you don't do your share, then you and I may have a problem.

                                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                      Fabio Franco
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                                      Mark Wallace wrote:

                                      Productivity is, as always, the key issue.

                                      I agree, but I've seen corner talks about how much someone "is so much on the web", yet always delivers.

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                                      • F Fabio Franco

                                        That's also my opinion, but you know, the lazy one might look bad when people see he's surfing all the time...

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                                        thrakazog
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                                        I'd respond to this but I'm too busy working. ;P

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                                        • C clientSurfer

                                          Ya but I'm coding too... :-O

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                                          Fabio Franco
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                                          The marvels of two or more monitors...

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