Possibly the most WTF news I've read in a while!
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If a culture can't get marriage and dating remotely right, how can we expect them to develop without the use QA? send wive! urgntz!
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Isn't it ironic that the word "culture" starts with the word "cult"?
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wizardzz wrote:
Nope, not seeing how that is related to a society that depends on parents to find spouses.
Depending on parents to find a spouse is kinda trivial compared to depending on an all-powerful super-god to look after you and all of humanity :-) BTW, I am not religious and I am personally against the concept of arranged marriages. I just don't think either of those are the reason why there are large number of Indian CPians posting crap in the QA forums. There are other solid reasons for why that is so, and I've got to say I know what I am talking about there, and not because I am Indian, but because I've been analyzing that for years now. Of course, considering I am of Indian origin, perhaps you may be of the opinion that I was babied too and thus my opinions don't count. If so I am afraid this debate may be futile.
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I don't feel it is comparable to religion. A person that prays knows they still have to do something, even if their God will could influence it. "Jesus, find me a good husband" is different than "My daddy picked out my husband when I was 2." One requires personal action, one does not. From my experience living and working with Indians, they were far from full adults when they moved here. I have noticed that in the culture, adult children are not independent adults in the eyes of their parents. Children are worried about what their parents or family would think if they were to date, say a white construction worker. Also, many of the Indians, I would say most, that I have met that immigrated to the States come from more well off families, and I think all but 1 grew up with servants. Servants don't teach one much about personal responsibility.
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
There are other solid reasons for why that is so, and I've got to say I know what I am talking about there, and not because I am Indian, but because I've been analyzing that for years now.
If there wasn't a sense of entitlement, or a fear of failure in the eyes of family, would their posts be as urgntz?
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Shouldn't there be singing and dancing and lots of bright colors with this? [Slaps monitor a few times] ;)
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I don't feel it is comparable to religion. A person that prays knows they still have to do something, even if their God will could influence it. "Jesus, find me a good husband" is different than "My daddy picked out my husband when I was 2." One requires personal action, one does not. From my experience living and working with Indians, they were far from full adults when they moved here. I have noticed that in the culture, adult children are not independent adults in the eyes of their parents. Children are worried about what their parents or family would think if they were to date, say a white construction worker. Also, many of the Indians, I would say most, that I have met that immigrated to the States come from more well off families, and I think all but 1 grew up with servants. Servants don't teach one much about personal responsibility.
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
There are other solid reasons for why that is so, and I've got to say I know what I am talking about there, and not because I am Indian, but because I've been analyzing that for years now.
If there wasn't a sense of entitlement, or a fear of failure in the eyes of family, would their posts be as urgntz?
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wizardzz wrote:
From my experience living and working with Indians, they were far from full adults when they moved here.
By what standard ? Because they've not been raised to not care what their family thinks of them ?
wizardzz wrote:
If there wasn't a sense of entitlement, or a fear of failure in the eyes of family, would their posts be as urgntz?
The posts are usually urgentz because the people in question have responded to a market where morons in the West will pay any Indian what is chump change here, but good money there, to write code, without checking if they are able to do it. They are responding to a market we create. Their issue is urgent b/c they have a paid job and no idea how to do it. You think their parents know how their project is going ? I'll also add, what makes you think that the people you've worked with are an adequate cross section of Indian society, as opposed to 'the sort of people who are likely to get jobs at your company' ?
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Isn't it ironic that the word "culture" starts with the word "cult"?
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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I don't feel it is comparable to religion. A person that prays knows they still have to do something, even if their God will could influence it. "Jesus, find me a good husband" is different than "My daddy picked out my husband when I was 2." One requires personal action, one does not. From my experience living and working with Indians, they were far from full adults when they moved here. I have noticed that in the culture, adult children are not independent adults in the eyes of their parents. Children are worried about what their parents or family would think if they were to date, say a white construction worker. Also, many of the Indians, I would say most, that I have met that immigrated to the States come from more well off families, and I think all but 1 grew up with servants. Servants don't teach one much about personal responsibility.
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
There are other solid reasons for why that is so, and I've got to say I know what I am talking about there, and not because I am Indian, but because I've been analyzing that for years now.
If there wasn't a sense of entitlement, or a fear of failure in the eyes of family, would their posts be as urgntz?
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
wizardzz wrote:
I don't feel it is comparable to religion. A person that prays knows they still have to do something, even if their God will could influence it. "Jesus, find me a good husband" is different than "My daddy picked out my husband when I was 2." One requires personal action, one does not.
You are just using convenient examples. They could easily be, "jesus picked my future spouse for me even before I was born". Anyway, except for isolated cases arranged marriages in India are not about fixing up 2 year olds for marriage. It's a far more complex concept than that.
wizardzz wrote:
From my experience living and working with Indians, they were far from full adults when they moved here. I have noticed that in the culture, adult children are not independent adults in the eyes of their parents. Children are worried about what their parents or family would think if they were to date, say a white construction worker.
Your experiences may have been that. Then again, India is a collection of several dozen different people with different cultural and social values. To think that all of India has one single culture is rather ignorant. That said, I do agree that Indians in general give far more importance to what their parents think that is ideal. Although the newer kids are changing, which is a good thing.
wizardzz wrote:
Also, many of the Indians, I would say most, that I have met that immigrated to the States come from more well off families, and I think all but 1 grew up with servants. Servants don't teach one much about personal responsibility.
Well, I kinda agree there. I grew up in a household with multiple servants, cooks, outside-help too, and it's something I am rather embarassed about today.
wizardzz wrote:
If there wasn't a sense of entitlement, or a fear of failure in the eyes of family, would their posts be as urgntz?
Yes, because I reckon they'd risk losing their jobs - most of these lowly paid programmers probably come from poor families and are sole-earners in their household. So the question is probably very important to them :-) The guys who actually know stuff don't come to CP asking questions, or if they do, they usually end up answering questions. Judging all Indian programmers based on the forums here i
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wizardzz wrote:
From my experience living and working with Indians, they were far from full adults when they moved here.
By what standard ? Because they've not been raised to not care what their family thinks of them ?
wizardzz wrote:
If there wasn't a sense of entitlement, or a fear of failure in the eyes of family, would their posts be as urgntz?
The posts are usually urgentz because the people in question have responded to a market where morons in the West will pay any Indian what is chump change here, but good money there, to write code, without checking if they are able to do it. They are responding to a market we create. Their issue is urgent b/c they have a paid job and no idea how to do it. You think their parents know how their project is going ? I'll also add, what makes you think that the people you've worked with are an adequate cross section of Indian society, as opposed to 'the sort of people who are likely to get jobs at your company' ?
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Christian Graus wrote:
as opposed to 'the sort of people who are likely to get jobs at your company' ?
Yeah, that's what came to my mind too but I didn't want to say it like that :-)
Regards, Nish
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Isn't it ironic that the word "culture" starts with the word "cult"?
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997The whole “culture” thing is just struggling to soften the pr0n.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
I got a wedding ring, seemed to me that was worth has cost me more.
FTFY :-D
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And so are baggy pants. That's the point, it's got nothing to do with the 21st century, or being 'backwards'. It's just the sort of thing teenagers do.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Isn't it ironic that the word "culture" starts with the word "cult"?
No.
ict558 - a Coward and a Fool. Dalek Dave & Hokum (Therefore it must be so, alas.)
It would have been yes, if this word correct spelling was “cuntture”.
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And so are baggy pants. That's the point, it's got nothing to do with the 21st century, or being 'backwards'. It's just the sort of thing teenagers do.
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Christian Graus wrote:
And so are baggy pants.
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Christian Graus wrote:
Thanks for taking my feelings in to account.
Passive aggression AND talk of feelings. You aren't married, are you? :~
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AspDotNetDev wrote:
Passive aggression AND talk of feelings. You aren't married, are you?
ROFL!
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SO in the end, the younger sister couldn't curry anybody's favor?
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wizardzz wrote:
If a culture can't get marriage and dating remotely right, how can we expect them to develop without the use QA?
Yeah, two very similar things. That was a very intelligent observation there. :)
Regards, Nish
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
Yeah, two very similar things.
Maybe we could set up a separate forum for it?
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Boy dumps girl who tied rakhi to husband to reunite with him[^] For those who don't know, in certain states in India, girls tie rakhis (colored bands) on their brothers' wrists as a show of affection. Sometimes they tie rakhis to guys who are not their biological brothers after which they become symbolic brothers (personally, I never got it, maybe it's just a way girls used to get rid of guys who were after them). Anyway, here is what makes the story so weird.
The bizarre wedding created newspaper headlines a fortnight ago. The strangest part was that Nitesh, a 21-year-old supervisor in an IT company, was earlier engaged to marry Aarti's elder sister. But when she eloped with a trainee police sub-inspector before the marriage, her father, asked Nitesh to marry her younger sister Aarti.
So Nitesh (the poor husband) was engaged to be married to this girl. And she elopes with a trainee cop! Seriously, who does that? And then her father asks him to marry her younger sister! :wtf:
Soon the boy's family learnt that Aarti had been forced into the alliance. "Aarti told my son that she had a lover — an engineering student in Rudrapur — whom she had met in college. They had also secretly married in a temple. Her family possibly drugged her on the night of the wedding," Nitesh's father Anil Tyagi had told TOI earlier this month.
Well turns out the younger sister (Aarti) had another lover and she was drugged/forced into getting married. That's when Nitesh decides he'll make a sister out of her. :wtf:
On learning this, Nitesh made Aarti tie him a rakhi so that she could continue to live in the house as his sister.
That's when this happened:
Now it turns out that the girl's lover — actually her first husband, since the two had allegedly earlier got married in a secret ceremony — has dumped her and is avoiding contact with her.
So the girl's lover has no further interest in her (and apparently he's her first husband). The cops tried to reunite her with him but he refused to show up, so they tried to reunite her with her new husband (the
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
Wow! I understand feeling a little incredulous on reading the story but to go check the house out seems completely crazy. Why would anyone do that? And the article is written as if the entire thing is a common sort of thing that happens every day. :WTF:
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Isn't it ironic that the word "culture" starts with the word "cult"?
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Isn't it ironic that the word "culture" starts with the word "cult"?
Only a select few people in the world get irony. The rest think they do. And that's ironic. Possibly.[^]
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Dalek Dave wrote:
Tying rags round wrists?
I don't see what's wrong with that. Girls in the west are walking around with rubber bands on their wrists, how is that different ? How is putting on a wedding ring different ? It's just a custom to show a type of affection.
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Christian Graus wrote:
It's just a custom to show a type of affection.
are you going to make me one of those band thingies? B
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When will people move into the 21st century? Forced marriages? Tying rags round wrists? I am surprised there hasn't been an 'honour killing'. (Although nothing honourable about muder).
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Dalek Dave wrote:
Forced marriages
While forced marraiges are an abomination, arranged marraiges seem to work as well as any other sort. I have meet and talked to some people who had arranged marriages and if done properly they seem to work!
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
Wow! I understand feeling a little incredulous on reading the story but to go check the house out seems completely crazy. Why would anyone do that? And the article is written as if the entire thing is a common sort of thing that happens every day. :WTF:
I heard on an IT Podcast there were programmers in india who secretly gathered outside the house of Nish hoping to catch a glimpse of their world famous hero. They whisper to each other that the Great Nishant will one day bless them with a preloved Zune and regale them with tips on correct object instantiation, c++/cli properties and correct memory management. Strange but true. Bryce
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Funny, b.c he's lived in the US for a long time, now.
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