I don't like to do this, but
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Oh, it's obvious. This time of day, QA is flooded with stupid questions because, while not all stupid programmers are Indian, and not all Indian programmers are stupid, the bulk of the stupid programmers here, ARE Indian. They are on right now, that's why the QA is warming up with easily googled questions. It's also why a comment like mine will be flooded with reflex 1 votes. From people who know they are as stupid as the guy in question, and ones who CAN program, and are super sensitive at the thought that I'm being racist, because the QA makes them feel embarrassed.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Oh, it's obvious. This time of day, QA is flooded with stupid questions because, while not all stupid programmers are Indian, and not all Indian programmers are stupid, the bulk of the stupid programmers here, ARE Indian. They are on right now, that's why the QA is warming up with easily googled questions. It's also why a comment like mine will be flooded with reflex 1 votes. From people who know they are as stupid as the guy in question, and ones who CAN program, and are super sensitive at the thought that I'm being racist, because the QA makes them feel embarrassed.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Take 5. Its the old adge of paying peanuts and getting monkeys rather than anything unique to India. My first experience of Indian talent was when a company I worked for went hiring there to 'cut costs' and the results were gobsmacking lunacy - I have never before or since seen standards set so low and then failing to reach them. The next two outfits on the other hand hired people on their ability and their integration into our operations was seamless. They are some of the finest IT professionals I have ever worked with.
Ger
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Does anyone know how to put these little pointy metal things into this long black thing that goes bang?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
That one liner deserves far more prominence!
Ger
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Oh, it's obvious. This time of day, QA is flooded with stupid questions because, while not all stupid programmers are Indian, and not all Indian programmers are stupid, the bulk of the stupid programmers here, ARE Indian. They are on right now, that's why the QA is warming up with easily googled questions. It's also why a comment like mine will be flooded with reflex 1 votes. From people who know they are as stupid as the guy in question, and ones who CAN program, and are super sensitive at the thought that I'm being racist, because the QA makes them feel embarrassed.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
while not all stupid programmers are Indian, and not all Indian programmers are stupid, the bulk of the stupid programmers here, ARE Indian
I'd go further, I'd say that the geographic area starts in the Middle East and arcs all the way to through Iran/Pakistan into India. The problem is endemic and not a question of race, but culture. People tend to get their jobs here through who they know rather than what they know. This is compounded with cultural awe induced by qualifications: they'd rather employ a useless PhD than a red-hot unqualified programmer. The education system here is very much by wrote (PhDs here are just 5-year BScs), and cheating is well-known to be rife. At all the Universities I attended as a student, exams were silent, and if we'd been caught as much as whispering, we'd have been thrown out of the university. To contrast, I caught one student looking at another's source code and he went to the head of the faculty to complain I'd thrown him out of this one exam. And don't get me started on plagarism: this is where the send codez pls attitude is embedded: the problems given are generally basic and the answers are generally copied (assuming they bother to do any work at all) so when most of them are faced with something more novel than iterating a list they fold. That's not to say there aren't good programmers (or students!) here, but the average is low and the dingbats highly visible as they need to ask the questions.
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Chris C-B wrote:
do they need to preserve WGS coordinate data?
ahhh! having ESRI nightmares. :P
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keyboard warrior wrote:
ahhh! having ESRI nightmares. :P
Aaarrrggghhh, working with it right now!!!
You can flame me whichever way you want and I wouldn't care a bit. But if you group me with some idiots, I'll turn into your worst nightmare.
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Chris C-B wrote:
do they need to preserve WGS coordinate data?
ahhh! having ESRI nightmares. :P
"Incorrectly attributing quotes to revered historical figures is the work of fools and gerrymanderers; but hey, that's the internet for you." -- Thomas Jefferson
It could be worse. You could be using MapXtreme. :Shudder:
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http://www.codeproject.com/Questions/217262/Code-for-Zooming-an-image[^] Hi, I'm Rudra, I'm working on Project for the Client Indian Army. I need to develope a form which loads India map and various buttons on it. Out of that 1 is zoom. Can you please help me by providing code for that The Indian ARMY is outsourcing to people who have no idea how to do basic tasks, and post about them on our forums ?
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Having read some of the previous comments I am still not sure whether this is a good or bad thing. I think it is fairly common knowledge, among those of us who try and answer questions, that there are plenty of stupid/incompetent/lazy people out there, but maybe we should just try and put them on the right path. I do have every sympathy with you but I also think Drew S has a point; after all, most stupid people don't actually realize that they are!
The best things in life are not things.
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Take 5. Its the old adge of paying peanuts and getting monkeys rather than anything unique to India. My first experience of Indian talent was when a company I worked for went hiring there to 'cut costs' and the results were gobsmacking lunacy - I have never before or since seen standards set so low and then failing to reach them. The next two outfits on the other hand hired people on their ability and their integration into our operations was seamless. They are some of the finest IT professionals I have ever worked with.
Ger
Ger Hayden wrote:
Its the old adge of paying peanuts and getting monkeys rather than anything unique to India.
Agreed. There are awesome Indian programmers, and stupid Australian ones. The stupid Aussie ones just don't get offered jobs.
Ger Hayden wrote:
They are some of the finest IT professionals I have ever worked with.
I have worked with Nish and with Rama, and I've not worked with anyone better, ever.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Yeah, all votes from this time of day should have weight divided by two. It would be just.
Greetings - Jacek
ROTFL !!! I just noticed that someone downvoted me for giving a correct answer b/c it was not copy and paste, in the QA forum.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Having read some of the previous comments I am still not sure whether this is a good or bad thing. I think it is fairly common knowledge, among those of us who try and answer questions, that there are plenty of stupid/incompetent/lazy people out there, but maybe we should just try and put them on the right path. I do have every sympathy with you but I also think Drew S has a point; after all, most stupid people don't actually realize that they are!
The best things in life are not things.
I actually answered him and kept going back to answer his comments. I do this frequently with people like him. I drew attention to him not because he is clueless, but because he is clueless AND employed by the Indian Army. I thought that was sufficient of a shocker to comment on.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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I actually answered him and kept going back to answer his comments. I do this frequently with people like him. I drew attention to him not because he is clueless, but because he is clueless AND employed by the Indian Army. I thought that was sufficient of a shocker to comment on.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
I actually answered him
Having read the messages in question I think you showed excellent restraint, and certainly tried to help him. Unfortunately, I think you were on a hiding to nothing.
The best things in life are not things.
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http://www.codeproject.com/Questions/217262/Code-for-Zooming-an-image[^] Hi, I'm Rudra, I'm working on Project for the Client Indian Army. I need to develope a form which loads India map and various buttons on it. Out of that 1 is zoom. Can you please help me by providing code for that The Indian ARMY is outsourcing to people who have no idea how to do basic tasks, and post about them on our forums ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
The Indian ARMY is outsourcing to people who have no idea how to do basic tasks, and post about them on our forums ?
Please don't divulgate: it is a project committed from the USA Army to their Indian allied (I dont' know why the latter outsourced it).
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http://www.codeproject.com/Questions/217262/Code-for-Zooming-an-image[^] Hi, I'm Rudra, I'm working on Project for the Client Indian Army. I need to develope a form which loads India map and various buttons on it. Out of that 1 is zoom. Can you please help me by providing code for that The Indian ARMY is outsourcing to people who have no idea how to do basic tasks, and post about them on our forums ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
And why does this have to be reposted in the Lounge? On the other hand he is most likely not employed by the army but by a contractor for the army. I feel sorry for that company. Couldn't he just ask someone in his company or google for GIS tips? google/bing aren't a solution for military use though.
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Oh, it's obvious. This time of day, QA is flooded with stupid questions because, while not all stupid programmers are Indian, and not all Indian programmers are stupid, the bulk of the stupid programmers here, ARE Indian. They are on right now, that's why the QA is warming up with easily googled questions. It's also why a comment like mine will be flooded with reflex 1 votes. From people who know they are as stupid as the guy in question, and ones who CAN program, and are super sensitive at the thought that I'm being racist, because the QA makes them feel embarrassed.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
and ones who CAN program, and are super sensitive at the thought that I'm being racist
Not at all. I am no mastermind myself, but, atleast I am not as bad as that guy and I did not think you were being racist. I think it was a natural expression of incredulity because he said he was working for the Indian Army.
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http://www.codeproject.com/Questions/217262/Code-for-Zooming-an-image[^] Hi, I'm Rudra, I'm working on Project for the Client Indian Army. I need to develope a form which loads India map and various buttons on it. Out of that 1 is zoom. Can you please help me by providing code for that The Indian ARMY is outsourcing to people who have no idea how to do basic tasks, and post about them on our forums ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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ROTFL !!! I just noticed that someone downvoted me for giving a correct answer b/c it was not copy and paste, in the QA forum.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.