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  • D Derek Hunter

    There's four of us in this office still using Brief :)

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    I'm really not sure if I should feel vindicated, or sympathetic...

    Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
    "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

      I'm really not sure if I should feel vindicated, or sympathetic...

      Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

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      Derek Hunter
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      Vindicated! We've got the manuals (reference and programmers guide) and software on both 51/4 " and 31/2" floppies ;)

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      • D Derek Hunter

        Vindicated! We've got the manuals (reference and programmers guide) and software on both 51/4 " and 31/2" floppies ;)

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        Now you mention it, so have I, I think. Pretty definately the 5 1/4", and probably copied to 3 1/2" as well. The only problem with that: I don't have a 5 1/4" drive any more, and I don't know if my 3 1/2" drive works either... :laugh:

        Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
        "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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        • F flyingxu

          For the programmers who write code daily, do you care about the UI of your text editors? I personally dislike the ui of source insight (its UI is very out dated), but it's still a preferred editor. I came to another editor named 010editor some day ago, I found that I like its UI. But unfortunatedly I need some functions which it doesnot provide. I spend some time (yesterday and today, maybe my boss should give me more work to do?) on the net just try to find a editor whose UI can give me some interest to try it, but I'm not satisfied by my result. Are you guys are same serious about the UI of a editor as I am, if so, do you have any recommandations? (Here UI mainly refers to the icons, windows layout, color schemas. I'm not asking for the best functions) PS, I asked the same question on stacko******.com, but 5 people rushed in and closed my question within several minutes! I'm amazed by their efficiency, I agree with their reasons though.

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          t078871
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          Being a C++ programmer in the MS world and doing also lots of script coding (bash, csh, ksh, perl, ...), I need a reliable but simple ASCII editor. Many years ago, I found a free version of a Swiss product called "NoteTab Pro". Today the free version is called "NoteTab Light", and it does everything I need: it is simple, stable, fast, comfortable. The license version might even be better. Anyway, it 's worth while to try. So I recommend it here. Uli@CH.

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            :laugh: That was no joke - that was a seriously good editor, for it's day! Now, it looks like pants, but since the competition was nearly all command line editors it was a godsend. Vi search and replace looked like this:

            :32,56s/guy/gal/g

            Meaning:

            Command start (:)
            from lines 32 to 56 inclusive (32,56)
            Search (s)
            Forward (/)
            for the text "guy"
            and replace it with "gal"
            globally (/g)

            Since we used assembler, where a label (and there were a lot of them) ended with a ':' it could get "interesting" working out how to undo the damage your last chunk of code just did to your source code... Even now, Brief had things it is difficult to do in VS - like have 6 source files open at the same time and showing exactly what you want.

            Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

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            Andrew Leeder
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            I found the switch from Vi to Brief took forever. I couldn't get used to having a "live" editing window where every keystroke changed text. My code ended up splattered with colons where I'd started to type a Vi command. These days I use VS for my .NET development and UltraEdit for non-PC targeted projects. I chose UltraEdit because, like Brief, it has a rather nice column editing feature that is so useful as well as the multi window restore at start-up, with each window having the cursor exactly where I left it when I shut the editor down.

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            • A Andrew Leeder

              I found the switch from Vi to Brief took forever. I couldn't get used to having a "live" editing window where every keystroke changed text. My code ended up splattered with colons where I'd started to type a Vi command. These days I use VS for my .NET development and UltraEdit for non-PC targeted projects. I chose UltraEdit because, like Brief, it has a rather nice column editing feature that is so useful as well as the multi window restore at start-up, with each window having the cursor exactly where I left it when I shut the editor down.

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              Surprisingly, VS has Column select, copy and paste: hold down the ALT key when you select text.

              Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
              "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                Surprisingly, VS has Column select, copy and paste: hold down the ALT key when you select text.

                Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

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                Andrew Leeder
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                I didn't know that. I will have a play later on. Thanks. ~A

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                • F flyingxu

                  For the programmers who write code daily, do you care about the UI of your text editors? I personally dislike the ui of source insight (its UI is very out dated), but it's still a preferred editor. I came to another editor named 010editor some day ago, I found that I like its UI. But unfortunatedly I need some functions which it doesnot provide. I spend some time (yesterday and today, maybe my boss should give me more work to do?) on the net just try to find a editor whose UI can give me some interest to try it, but I'm not satisfied by my result. Are you guys are same serious about the UI of a editor as I am, if so, do you have any recommandations? (Here UI mainly refers to the icons, windows layout, color schemas. I'm not asking for the best functions) PS, I asked the same question on stacko******.com, but 5 people rushed in and closed my question within several minutes! I'm amazed by their efficiency, I agree with their reasons though.

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                  Spectre_001
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                  On the free side I use NotePad++, for a paid editor, I like UltraEdit.

                  Kevin Rucker, Application Programmer QSS Group, Inc. United States Coast Guard OSC Kevin.D.Rucker@uscg.mil "Programming is an art form that fights back." -- Chad Hower

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                  • H Henry Minute

                    The text editor with the best UI is undoubtedly vi.

                    Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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                    Paul Darlington
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                    I still have a 'Quick Reference for vi' card in my desk. HP Part number 96597-900000; if you want to get one ;) . Its a very useful double sided card with everything you need to drive vi. I had forgotten all about the card and vi until this thread reminded me. Damn you.

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                    • F flyingxu

                      For the programmers who write code daily, do you care about the UI of your text editors? I personally dislike the ui of source insight (its UI is very out dated), but it's still a preferred editor. I came to another editor named 010editor some day ago, I found that I like its UI. But unfortunatedly I need some functions which it doesnot provide. I spend some time (yesterday and today, maybe my boss should give me more work to do?) on the net just try to find a editor whose UI can give me some interest to try it, but I'm not satisfied by my result. Are you guys are same serious about the UI of a editor as I am, if so, do you have any recommandations? (Here UI mainly refers to the icons, windows layout, color schemas. I'm not asking for the best functions) PS, I asked the same question on stacko******.com, but 5 people rushed in and closed my question within several minutes! I'm amazed by their efficiency, I agree with their reasons though.

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                      Mark Puddephat
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                      Don't ever knock vi! Even in a world where everyone drives automatics, I still insist on pumping a clutch pedal! I use vi every time I work on a COBOL source file. And I am not kidding! That is my day job! Seriously though. vi is my universal IDE on UNIX/Linux for any type of code. On Windows, Textpad is my best friend for text editing. VS for .NET of course. HateML for my PHP/HTML work. PLEdit32 for PL/SQL coding. PowerGUI for Powershell. Oh, and let's not forget the TSO editor for the JCL side of my job. Notepad never gets a look-in. I still miss LPEX (OS/2) and LEXX (IBM VM) though. Anyone remember those? They had a big feature that I DO miss, namely that they could be scripted in EXEC or REXX. Horses for courses, eh?

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                      • B BillWoodruff

                        Hi FlyingXu, The current UltraEdit (17.xx on Windows) has six modes of user interface, including: technical writer, programmer, notepad replacement. Last I looked, there were thirteen different programming language development modes from C# to Ruby to HTML development. You can customize any style ... menus, icons, etc. ... of the six UI modes highly. I sure wish I could "plug" UE in to Visual Studio, instead of using the VS editor which I have come to refer to ... in my head ... as "the light show:" with the color settings tweaked to mild-stun for the sake of my older eyes, there's all kinds of flashing that occurs unless I'm guiding the mouse with the precision of a neurosurgeon ! Suggest you download a trial of the current UE and take a look. best, Bill

                        "Reason is the natural order of truth; but imagination is the organ of meaning." C.S. Lewis

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                        Wow, your reply makes me really interested to try ultraeidt, now. :laugh: UE should hire you as a marketing guy.

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                        • F flyingxu

                          For the programmers who write code daily, do you care about the UI of your text editors? I personally dislike the ui of source insight (its UI is very out dated), but it's still a preferred editor. I came to another editor named 010editor some day ago, I found that I like its UI. But unfortunatedly I need some functions which it doesnot provide. I spend some time (yesterday and today, maybe my boss should give me more work to do?) on the net just try to find a editor whose UI can give me some interest to try it, but I'm not satisfied by my result. Are you guys are same serious about the UI of a editor as I am, if so, do you have any recommandations? (Here UI mainly refers to the icons, windows layout, color schemas. I'm not asking for the best functions) PS, I asked the same question on stacko******.com, but 5 people rushed in and closed my question within several minutes! I'm amazed by their efficiency, I agree with their reasons though.

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                          edmurphy99
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                          I prefer to use edlin

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                          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                            I used to swear by Brief[^] (I used to swear at vi)

                            Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

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                            Brad Stiles
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                            Loved BRIEF. I used it all the way up until about 1995, then switched to KEdit, because my new employer used it. Currently reading: "The Prince", by Nicolo Machiavelli

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                              For the programmers who write code daily, do you care about the UI of your text editors? I personally dislike the ui of source insight (its UI is very out dated), but it's still a preferred editor. I came to another editor named 010editor some day ago, I found that I like its UI. But unfortunatedly I need some functions which it doesnot provide. I spend some time (yesterday and today, maybe my boss should give me more work to do?) on the net just try to find a editor whose UI can give me some interest to try it, but I'm not satisfied by my result. Are you guys are same serious about the UI of a editor as I am, if so, do you have any recommandations? (Here UI mainly refers to the icons, windows layout, color schemas. I'm not asking for the best functions) PS, I asked the same question on stacko******.com, but 5 people rushed in and closed my question within several minutes! I'm amazed by their efficiency, I agree with their reasons though.

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                              Keith TrangmaR
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                              I'm a big fan of Textpad (www.textpad.com) - it can do syntax colouring for loads of different languages & file formats, handle several hundred open files at a time, no limit on file size, and the search/replace mechanism can make extensive use of regular expressions. Intellisense would be the icing on the cake, but we can't have everything... Keith

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                              • J Joan M

                                Apart from visual studio, I would go for UltraEdit[^]... it has plenty of functions, it is nice and really fast. TextPad[^] is also nice... And there was also SciTE[^]... a free editor based on the Scintilla libraries...

                                [www.tamelectromecanica.com] Robots, CNC and PLC machines for grinding and polishing.

                                modified on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:31 AM

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                                regalsoft
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                                I used to use UltraEdit exclusively but the the last few revs have gotten way too bloated. It used to be a snappy app. Even on my i7 quad-core it takes way too long to load for my taste. I have a hard time with all their non-standard icon images too.

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                                  I used to use UltraEdit exclusively but the the last few revs have gotten way too bloated. It used to be a snappy app. Even on my i7 quad-core it takes way too long to load for my taste. I have a hard time with all their non-standard icon images too.

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                                  regalsoft wrote:

                                  takes way too long to load for my taste

                                  They have made it much more fast in their last release... :thumbsup: it was about time... X|

                                  [www.tamelectromecanica.com] Robots, CNC and PLC machines for grinding and polishing.

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                                  • F flyingxu

                                    For the programmers who write code daily, do you care about the UI of your text editors? I personally dislike the ui of source insight (its UI is very out dated), but it's still a preferred editor. I came to another editor named 010editor some day ago, I found that I like its UI. But unfortunatedly I need some functions which it doesnot provide. I spend some time (yesterday and today, maybe my boss should give me more work to do?) on the net just try to find a editor whose UI can give me some interest to try it, but I'm not satisfied by my result. Are you guys are same serious about the UI of a editor as I am, if so, do you have any recommandations? (Here UI mainly refers to the icons, windows layout, color schemas. I'm not asking for the best functions) PS, I asked the same question on stacko******.com, but 5 people rushed in and closed my question within several minutes! I'm amazed by their efficiency, I agree with their reasons though.

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                                    BrainiacV
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                                    For non-VS editing, I prefer Notepad++[^], the price is right (free :-D ).

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                                      For the programmers who write code daily, do you care about the UI of your text editors? I personally dislike the ui of source insight (its UI is very out dated), but it's still a preferred editor. I came to another editor named 010editor some day ago, I found that I like its UI. But unfortunatedly I need some functions which it doesnot provide. I spend some time (yesterday and today, maybe my boss should give me more work to do?) on the net just try to find a editor whose UI can give me some interest to try it, but I'm not satisfied by my result. Are you guys are same serious about the UI of a editor as I am, if so, do you have any recommandations? (Here UI mainly refers to the icons, windows layout, color schemas. I'm not asking for the best functions) PS, I asked the same question on stacko******.com, but 5 people rushed in and closed my question within several minutes! I'm amazed by their efficiency, I agree with their reasons though.

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                                      ssadler
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                                      jEdit, open source and very configurable. Also has 190+ plugins. I use it as my main editor but I also use AutoHotKey to make my cursor movement shortcuts the same for all the editors I use (jEdit, Word, VS and CodeComposer Studio).

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                                      • F flyingxu

                                        For the programmers who write code daily, do you care about the UI of your text editors? I personally dislike the ui of source insight (its UI is very out dated), but it's still a preferred editor. I came to another editor named 010editor some day ago, I found that I like its UI. But unfortunatedly I need some functions which it doesnot provide. I spend some time (yesterday and today, maybe my boss should give me more work to do?) on the net just try to find a editor whose UI can give me some interest to try it, but I'm not satisfied by my result. Are you guys are same serious about the UI of a editor as I am, if so, do you have any recommandations? (Here UI mainly refers to the icons, windows layout, color schemas. I'm not asking for the best functions) PS, I asked the same question on stacko******.com, but 5 people rushed in and closed my question within several minutes! I'm amazed by their efficiency, I agree with their reasons though.

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                                        loctrice
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                                        vim. Gedit sometimes.

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                                        • J Joan M

                                          regalsoft wrote:

                                          takes way too long to load for my taste

                                          They have made it much more fast in their last release... :thumbsup: it was about time... X|

                                          [www.tamelectromecanica.com] Robots, CNC and PLC machines for grinding and polishing.

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                                          regalsoft
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                                          I'm running the latest version (17.0) and it's still way too slow. I see there's a new minor rev out there now. Is that the one you're talking about?

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