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    Taka Muraoka
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    ...but how the hell does something like this[^] happen?!?! In November, as Congress finalized the legislation authorizing a new Department of Homeland Security, two paragraphs suddenly appeared in the bill giving drug maker Eli Lilly & Company something it desired: a shield from lawsuits by parents who claim the company's vaccines caused their children's autism. ... Who inserted the provision? Reporters tried and failed to find out. Lilly's lobbyists (laughably) claim ignorance. No one on Capitol Hill is proud enough of his handiwork to claim it.


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      ...but how the hell does something like this[^] happen?!?! In November, as Congress finalized the legislation authorizing a new Department of Homeland Security, two paragraphs suddenly appeared in the bill giving drug maker Eli Lilly & Company something it desired: a shield from lawsuits by parents who claim the company's vaccines caused their children's autism. ... Who inserted the provision? Reporters tried and failed to find out. Lilly's lobbyists (laughably) claim ignorance. No one on Capitol Hill is proud enough of his handiwork to claim it.


      he he he. I like it in the kitchen! - Marc Clifton (on taking the heat when being flamed) Awasu v0.4a[^]: A free RSS reader with support for Code Project.

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      Michael A Barnhart
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      I agree this is does not sound responsible. (Have not read the actual section.) As well as no law suites against HMO's etc. "I will find a new sig someday."

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        ...but how the hell does something like this[^] happen?!?! In November, as Congress finalized the legislation authorizing a new Department of Homeland Security, two paragraphs suddenly appeared in the bill giving drug maker Eli Lilly & Company something it desired: a shield from lawsuits by parents who claim the company's vaccines caused their children's autism. ... Who inserted the provision? Reporters tried and failed to find out. Lilly's lobbyists (laughably) claim ignorance. No one on Capitol Hill is proud enough of his handiwork to claim it.


        he he he. I like it in the kitchen! - Marc Clifton (on taking the heat when being flamed) Awasu v0.4a[^]: A free RSS reader with support for Code Project.

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        Christian Graus
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        How the HELL does a country legislate such a thing ? If I was such a parent, and I found out, I would KILL the people who ran the company, and whoever was bribed by them to pass that law. I hear it's not at all hard to buy a gun in the USA. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
        C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
        Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002

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          How the HELL does a country legislate such a thing ? If I was such a parent, and I found out, I would KILL the people who ran the company, and whoever was bribed by them to pass that law. I hear it's not at all hard to buy a gun in the USA. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
          C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
          Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002

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          Taka Muraoka
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          I'm looking forward to seeing "Bowling for Columbine" (opens soon in Melbourne). There's one segment where the guy opens an account at a bank that is giving away a gun as the free gift! :omg: He actually asks the manager "so, do you think it's a good idea to be giving away guns in a bank?" :laugh: This is a documentary, btw :-)


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            I'm looking forward to seeing "Bowling for Columbine" (opens soon in Melbourne). There's one segment where the guy opens an account at a bank that is giving away a gun as the free gift! :omg: He actually asks the manager "so, do you think it's a good idea to be giving away guns in a bank?" :laugh: This is a documentary, btw :-)


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            Taka Muraoka wrote: This is a documentary, btw REALLY ? In that case, I MUST see it. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
            C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
            Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002

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              Taka Muraoka wrote: This is a documentary, btw REALLY ? In that case, I MUST see it. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
              C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
              Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002

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              Taka Muraoka
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              He used to be on SBS a while back - "The Awful Truth", I think it was called. The show was actually kind of disappointing - he's got a lot to say but he comes across as a total dick. www.michaelmoore.com[^], if you're interested.


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                ...but how the hell does something like this[^] happen?!?! In November, as Congress finalized the legislation authorizing a new Department of Homeland Security, two paragraphs suddenly appeared in the bill giving drug maker Eli Lilly & Company something it desired: a shield from lawsuits by parents who claim the company's vaccines caused their children's autism. ... Who inserted the provision? Reporters tried and failed to find out. Lilly's lobbyists (laughably) claim ignorance. No one on Capitol Hill is proud enough of his handiwork to claim it.


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                Taka Muraoka wrote: but how the hell does something like this happen isn't it great that the realities of profit are equally as important as the appearance of security? a few people fought it, but they couldn't very well say "no" to a bill with the name "homeland security", could they? too bad those utterly intrusive TIPS and TIA measures won't be watching what the corporate whores in congress are doing. just for the record, Bill Frist, (R), TN, tried unsucessfully to get this same measure into a different bill earlier this year. he denies that he added it this time - but who can believe a fucking thing any of those asspods say? when the choice is between democrat and republican, you're only deciding which of your holes they're going to rape. -c


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                  Taka Muraoka wrote: but how the hell does something like this happen isn't it great that the realities of profit are equally as important as the appearance of security? a few people fought it, but they couldn't very well say "no" to a bill with the name "homeland security", could they? too bad those utterly intrusive TIPS and TIA measures won't be watching what the corporate whores in congress are doing. just for the record, Bill Frist, (R), TN, tried unsucessfully to get this same measure into a different bill earlier this year. he denies that he added it this time - but who can believe a fucking thing any of those asspods say? when the choice is between democrat and republican, you're only deciding which of your holes they're going to rape. -c


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                  Chris Losinger wrote: when the choice is between democrat and republican, you're only deciding which of your holes they're going to rape. As usual a nice analogy by you. :-) I'm gonna remember that one for future usage. Regardz Colin J Davies

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                  You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.

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                    Taka Muraoka wrote: but how the hell does something like this happen isn't it great that the realities of profit are equally as important as the appearance of security? a few people fought it, but they couldn't very well say "no" to a bill with the name "homeland security", could they? too bad those utterly intrusive TIPS and TIA measures won't be watching what the corporate whores in congress are doing. just for the record, Bill Frist, (R), TN, tried unsucessfully to get this same measure into a different bill earlier this year. he denies that he added it this time - but who can believe a fucking thing any of those asspods say? when the choice is between democrat and republican, you're only deciding which of your holes they're going to rape. -c


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                    Chris Losinger wrote: when the choice is between democrat and republican, you're only deciding which of your holes they're going to rape. This is SO quotable, and so utterly true. We're in the same boat, don't worry. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
                    C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
                    Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002

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                      Chris Losinger wrote: when the choice is between democrat and republican, you're only deciding which of your holes they're going to rape. This is SO quotable, and so utterly true. We're in the same boat, don't worry. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
                      C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
                      Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002

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                      I guess in some countries people have more holes to be raped options to choose than others, but the final result is the same. Regardz Colin J Davies

                      Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

                      You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.

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                        ...but how the hell does something like this[^] happen?!?! In November, as Congress finalized the legislation authorizing a new Department of Homeland Security, two paragraphs suddenly appeared in the bill giving drug maker Eli Lilly & Company something it desired: a shield from lawsuits by parents who claim the company's vaccines caused their children's autism. ... Who inserted the provision? Reporters tried and failed to find out. Lilly's lobbyists (laughably) claim ignorance. No one on Capitol Hill is proud enough of his handiwork to claim it.


                        he he he. I like it in the kitchen! - Marc Clifton (on taking the heat when being flamed) Awasu v0.4a[^]: A free RSS reader with support for Code Project.

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                        :mad: fucking shit :mad:!!! God politicians piss me off! Why is it that most politicians are such shriveled scrotum sacs? Sure, ripping on other politicians is cool but screwing over the people they represent is not. *insert angry smiley grumbling profanities here* Brad Jennings My latest nickname: Kidney Stone Mon (Nickname courtesy of my roommates)

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                          :mad: fucking shit :mad:!!! God politicians piss me off! Why is it that most politicians are such shriveled scrotum sacs? Sure, ripping on other politicians is cool but screwing over the people they represent is not. *insert angry smiley grumbling profanities here* Brad Jennings My latest nickname: Kidney Stone Mon (Nickname courtesy of my roommates)

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                          Brad Jennings wrote: ripping on other politicians is cool but screwing over the people they represent is no Unless you're anarchist, what are you doing to change the things?


                          One small village of indomitable geeks still holds out against the invaders. And life is not easy for the managers legionaries who garrison the fortified camps of Microsoftum, Javum, Ceplumplum and Vebasum

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                            Brad Jennings wrote: ripping on other politicians is cool but screwing over the people they represent is no Unless you're anarchist, what are you doing to change the things?


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                            What can I do to alleviate the problem? They don't care about what I say. Most politicians only care about money IMO. Brad Jennings My latest nickname: Kidney Stone (Nickname courtesy of my roommates)

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                              What can I do to alleviate the problem? They don't care about what I say. Most politicians only care about money IMO. Brad Jennings My latest nickname: Kidney Stone (Nickname courtesy of my roommates)

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                              Brad Jennings wrote: What can I do to alleviate the problem? Engage yourself in politics :) ! Being in democracy means the power belongs to the people, not that everything will happens like in a dream. If the people don't participate, the whole system will go where a minority wants it goes. Brad Jennings wrote: Most politicians only care about money IMO. As do a majority of people, don't they ? Why would be politicians better than the folk they represent ? :suss:


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                                Brad Jennings wrote: What can I do to alleviate the problem? Engage yourself in politics :) ! Being in democracy means the power belongs to the people, not that everything will happens like in a dream. If the people don't participate, the whole system will go where a minority wants it goes. Brad Jennings wrote: Most politicians only care about money IMO. As do a majority of people, don't they ? Why would be politicians better than the folk they represent ? :suss:


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                                Why would be politicians better than the folk they represent ? True, maybe I shouldn't be so hard on politicians, they're people too, although they seem more evil than most. It just gets me down when all I hear about is them screwing the public, but then I realize that the media doesn't generally talk about the good things they do. I hate politics and generally dislike politicians, but I've always considered running for political office to help aid in the betterment of my country. Although I probably wouldn't be well respected, it would be nice to actually have a say in what goes on :) Brad Jennings My latest nickname: Kidney Stone Mon (Nickname courtesy of my roommates)

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                                  ...but how the hell does something like this[^] happen?!?! In November, as Congress finalized the legislation authorizing a new Department of Homeland Security, two paragraphs suddenly appeared in the bill giving drug maker Eli Lilly & Company something it desired: a shield from lawsuits by parents who claim the company's vaccines caused their children's autism. ... Who inserted the provision? Reporters tried and failed to find out. Lilly's lobbyists (laughably) claim ignorance. No one on Capitol Hill is proud enough of his handiwork to claim it.


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                                  I haven't read all the other posts, but it was inserted specifically to allow the Bush to require military and health care workers to take vaccinations. And he has just enacted such a requirement, for the smallpox. This is because he, being even more paranoid than me, thinks some dumb f*ck is going to release smallpox and a lot of people are going to die. The repercusions of this is awful. Don't even get me started. The Republicans "promised" the Democrats that Congress would review this legislation early next year. Uh huh. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
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                                    I haven't read all the other posts, but it was inserted specifically to allow the Bush to require military and health care workers to take vaccinations. And he has just enacted such a requirement, for the smallpox. This is because he, being even more paranoid than me, thinks some dumb f*ck is going to release smallpox and a lot of people are going to die. The repercusions of this is awful. Don't even get me started. The Republicans "promised" the Democrats that Congress would review this legislation early next year. Uh huh. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
                                    Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
                                    Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka

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                                    Taka Muraoka
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                                    Aaahhh... I remember you talking about this the other day but I didn't make the link. But... ...my point wasn't so much about the legislation itself, shitty as it appears to be, but how is it possible that something can be put forward to be made the law of the land and nobody knows who the fuck put it there?!?!


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                                      ...but how the hell does something like this[^] happen?!?! In November, as Congress finalized the legislation authorizing a new Department of Homeland Security, two paragraphs suddenly appeared in the bill giving drug maker Eli Lilly & Company something it desired: a shield from lawsuits by parents who claim the company's vaccines caused their children's autism. ... Who inserted the provision? Reporters tried and failed to find out. Lilly's lobbyists (laughably) claim ignorance. No one on Capitol Hill is proud enough of his handiwork to claim it.


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                                      At least in the UK there is a poiisbility of the opposition party getting changed. We'll see. The tigress is here :D

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                                        ...but how the hell does something like this[^] happen?!?! In November, as Congress finalized the legislation authorizing a new Department of Homeland Security, two paragraphs suddenly appeared in the bill giving drug maker Eli Lilly & Company something it desired: a shield from lawsuits by parents who claim the company's vaccines caused their children's autism. ... Who inserted the provision? Reporters tried and failed to find out. Lilly's lobbyists (laughably) claim ignorance. No one on Capitol Hill is proud enough of his handiwork to claim it.


                                        he he he. I like it in the kitchen! - Marc Clifton (on taking the heat when being flamed) Awasu v0.4a[^]: A free RSS reader with support for Code Project.

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                                        Although I haven't read the details, its pretty scary to think it is explicitly written anywhere that my right to file suits against any party has been taken away. I don't think this is Constitutional though, and probably wouldn't hold up in court. BW "If you enjoy what you do, you'll never work another day in your life." - Confucius

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                                          What can I do to alleviate the problem? They don't care about what I say. Most politicians only care about money IMO. Brad Jennings My latest nickname: Kidney Stone (Nickname courtesy of my roommates)

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                                          Brad Jennings wrote: What can I do to alleviate the problem? We have that right to vote, remember? The funny/sad thing is, everyone bitches about politicians, yet year after year it is the incumbants who have it easy on election day. Why do we keep reelecting the people we are complaining about? BW "If you enjoy what you do, you'll never work another day in your life." - Confucius

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