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  • H hairy_hats

    Ask if he's got any left-over napalm in his shed. Seriously though, that sucks, he could have killed your dog.

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    wizardzz
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    Yeah, and now I can never leave my animals in the yard unattended. I really want to seal off the holes with poison in them and then move.

    "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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      So the rats in my back yard have gotten out of control. There must be about 10-20 of them that have built a next under my garage and under my back porch. Kill traps are not the best option since we have other wildlife, squirrels and bunnies, and they frankly don't make traps large enough for these rats. My neighbor has started placing rat poison in their holes, in my yard, without my permission, only telling me once my dog tried to retrieve a bag of it from the hole. He has also placed a bag near my garden. I could easily shoot them on site with my .22 pellet gun, but given local laws, I'd be in jail forever. Anyways, my question is, what is the best way to fill in the holes? Is there an expanding foam that I can spray in there that will solidify and seal them off? Since I can't stop my neighbor from poisoning the holes I'd like to seal the poison into the holes so my dogs don't get to it.

      "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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      • W wizardzz

        So the rats in my back yard have gotten out of control. There must be about 10-20 of them that have built a next under my garage and under my back porch. Kill traps are not the best option since we have other wildlife, squirrels and bunnies, and they frankly don't make traps large enough for these rats. My neighbor has started placing rat poison in their holes, in my yard, without my permission, only telling me once my dog tried to retrieve a bag of it from the hole. He has also placed a bag near my garden. I could easily shoot them on site with my .22 pellet gun, but given local laws, I'd be in jail forever. Anyways, my question is, what is the best way to fill in the holes? Is there an expanding foam that I can spray in there that will solidify and seal them off? Since I can't stop my neighbor from poisoning the holes I'd like to seal the poison into the holes so my dogs don't get to it.

        "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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        Wjousts
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        Maybe one of these?[^]

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        • G gavindon

          the crete is enviro friendly(as in no pollutants) be careful with what foam you get as that could possibly be considered pollution/contamination etc.. if the wrong person got wind of it. That's why I suggested crete and leave it well below ground level. then you can kick dirt over it to top out the holes.

          Programming is a race between programmers trying to build bigger and better idiot proof programs, and the universe trying to build bigger and better idiots, so far... the universe is winning. A crisis on your part does not constitute one on mine.

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          wizardzz
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          This is Chicago, my apartment was built in 1880 and is full of asbestos, mold, and lead paint. I'd be improving it by sealing everything in. Honestly though, the greatstuff from DOW has an outdoor one that is fish friendy, so I might try that.

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            So the rats in my back yard have gotten out of control. There must be about 10-20 of them that have built a next under my garage and under my back porch. Kill traps are not the best option since we have other wildlife, squirrels and bunnies, and they frankly don't make traps large enough for these rats. My neighbor has started placing rat poison in their holes, in my yard, without my permission, only telling me once my dog tried to retrieve a bag of it from the hole. He has also placed a bag near my garden. I could easily shoot them on site with my .22 pellet gun, but given local laws, I'd be in jail forever. Anyways, my question is, what is the best way to fill in the holes? Is there an expanding foam that I can spray in there that will solidify and seal them off? Since I can't stop my neighbor from poisoning the holes I'd like to seal the poison into the holes so my dogs don't get to it.

            "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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            R Giskard Reventlov
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            Get a cat: that'll get rid of them sharpish. When we had cats we never saw a rat or a mouse.

            "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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            • W wizardzz

              Yeah, and now I can never leave my animals in the yard unattended. I really want to seal off the holes with poison in them and then move.

              "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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              David1987
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              If you're going to move anyway, why not leave it up to the next inhabitant?

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                Get a cat: that'll get rid of them sharpish. When we had cats we never saw a rat or a mouse.

                "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                wizardzz
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                I live in an urban area, my cat got out once and ended up in the city pound within 6 hours. That's a good thing as there is very heavy traffic and stray cats to contend with. See my response to DD to see the animals I have in my pack.

                "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                • W wizardzz

                  This is Chicago, my apartment was built in 1880 and is full of asbestos, mold, and lead paint. I'd be improving it by sealing everything in. Honestly though, the greatstuff from DOW has an outdoor one that is fish friendy, so I might try that.

                  "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                  gavindon
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                  wizardzz wrote:

                  I'd be improving it by sealing everything in

                  lol I've lived in a couple of places like that.

                  Programming is a race between programmers trying to build bigger and better idiot proof programs, and the universe trying to build bigger and better idiots, so far... the universe is winning. A crisis on your part does not constitute one on mine.

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                  • D David1987

                    If you're going to move anyway, why not leave it up to the next inhabitant?

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                    wizardzz
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                    I've been looking to move for 2+ years, I've put offers on 2 places, but my requirements are so specific it's difficult to find anything. I play music, often loudly, have 2 dogs, 2 cats, and garden. This is hard to find in the city.

                    "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                    • W wizardzz

                      So the rats in my back yard have gotten out of control. There must be about 10-20 of them that have built a next under my garage and under my back porch. Kill traps are not the best option since we have other wildlife, squirrels and bunnies, and they frankly don't make traps large enough for these rats. My neighbor has started placing rat poison in their holes, in my yard, without my permission, only telling me once my dog tried to retrieve a bag of it from the hole. He has also placed a bag near my garden. I could easily shoot them on site with my .22 pellet gun, but given local laws, I'd be in jail forever. Anyways, my question is, what is the best way to fill in the holes? Is there an expanding foam that I can spray in there that will solidify and seal them off? Since I can't stop my neighbor from poisoning the holes I'd like to seal the poison into the holes so my dogs don't get to it.

                      "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                      No e
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                      a little bleach or ammonia down the hole has worked for me in the past

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                      • N No e

                        a little bleach or ammonia down the hole has worked for me in the past

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                        wizardzz
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                        Hmmm, ammonia... I was going to run a hose into it, then chase that with some Cheyenne powder, shove some steel wool in there, then seal with foam. Ammonia may make the mix, too.

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                        • W Wjousts

                          Maybe one of these?[^]

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                          Joe Simes
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                          Then he will need poison to kill those! :rolleyes:

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                            I've been looking to move for 2+ years, I've put offers on 2 places, but my requirements are so specific it's difficult to find anything. I play music, often loudly, have 2 dogs, 2 cats, and garden. This is hard to find in the city.

                            "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                            gavindon
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                            considered moving outside the city? longer drive = more gas but usually cheaper rent so it about evens out? That is what I do here and while this is not the windy city, I would think it wouldn't be THAT much different. You end up close to the same on money but out a little more time to cover the drive, However it could be worth it if you like a little more freedom of how you live.

                            Programming is a race between programmers trying to build bigger and better idiot proof programs, and the universe trying to build bigger and better idiots, so far... the universe is winning. A crisis on your part does not constitute one on mine.

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                            • G gavindon

                              considered moving outside the city? longer drive = more gas but usually cheaper rent so it about evens out? That is what I do here and while this is not the windy city, I would think it wouldn't be THAT much different. You end up close to the same on money but out a little more time to cover the drive, However it could be worth it if you like a little more freedom of how you live.

                              Programming is a race between programmers trying to build bigger and better idiot proof programs, and the universe trying to build bigger and better idiots, so far... the universe is winning. A crisis on your part does not constitute one on mine.

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                              wizardzz
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                              I've considered it, but Ms. Wiz is definitely against it. I would have a lot less time, and I think my commuting costs could get pricey. All of my hobbies would require me to stay in the city after work, and most weekend nights and some weekend days. I am still open to collar burbs (near burbs) but they are pretty much the same as where I live now (standard 25' by 125' lots).

                              "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                                So the rats in my back yard have gotten out of control. There must be about 10-20 of them that have built a next under my garage and under my back porch. Kill traps are not the best option since we have other wildlife, squirrels and bunnies, and they frankly don't make traps large enough for these rats. My neighbor has started placing rat poison in their holes, in my yard, without my permission, only telling me once my dog tried to retrieve a bag of it from the hole. He has also placed a bag near my garden. I could easily shoot them on site with my .22 pellet gun, but given local laws, I'd be in jail forever. Anyways, my question is, what is the best way to fill in the holes? Is there an expanding foam that I can spray in there that will solidify and seal them off? Since I can't stop my neighbor from poisoning the holes I'd like to seal the poison into the holes so my dogs don't get to it.

                                "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                                Then your only option is to shoot them as you see them. I recommend either a pellet gun (not so accurate), or a .22 rifle that can reliably shoot sub-sonic ammo. The smaller the load, the softer the report, so neighbors probably won't hear you. One last piece of advice - don't bother dressing like Rambo, because it won't intimidate the rats. I eradicated a family of squirrels with a pellet gun a few years back. They had taken to stripping our new deck in the back yard for nesting material. Six tree rats met their maker as a result, and out of a tin of 300 pellets, I still have 293 pellets.

                                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                  Then your only option is to shoot them as you see them. I recommend either a pellet gun (not so accurate), or a .22 rifle that can reliably shoot sub-sonic ammo. The smaller the load, the softer the report, so neighbors probably won't hear you. One last piece of advice - don't bother dressing like Rambo, because it won't intimidate the rats. I eradicated a family of squirrels with a pellet gun a few years back. They had taken to stripping our new deck in the back yard for nesting material. Six tree rats met their maker as a result, and out of a tin of 300 pellets, I still have 293 pellets.

                                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                                  I would light them up with subsonic ammo in my Model 41. The yard is about 25 x 30 so it wouldn't even be fair, but man I'd be in jail for life if anyone saw me. I have a 22 pellet rifle, but the thing is not subsonic, it's louder than my Model 41.

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                                    So the rats in my back yard have gotten out of control. There must be about 10-20 of them that have built a next under my garage and under my back porch. Kill traps are not the best option since we have other wildlife, squirrels and bunnies, and they frankly don't make traps large enough for these rats. My neighbor has started placing rat poison in their holes, in my yard, without my permission, only telling me once my dog tried to retrieve a bag of it from the hole. He has also placed a bag near my garden. I could easily shoot them on site with my .22 pellet gun, but given local laws, I'd be in jail forever. Anyways, my question is, what is the best way to fill in the holes? Is there an expanding foam that I can spray in there that will solidify and seal them off? Since I can't stop my neighbor from poisoning the holes I'd like to seal the poison into the holes so my dogs don't get to it.

                                    "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                                    Can't you celebrate the 4th of July by putting an M-80 into each hole?

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                                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                      Then your only option is to shoot them as you see them. I recommend either a pellet gun (not so accurate), or a .22 rifle that can reliably shoot sub-sonic ammo. The smaller the load, the softer the report, so neighbors probably won't hear you. One last piece of advice - don't bother dressing like Rambo, because it won't intimidate the rats. I eradicated a family of squirrels with a pellet gun a few years back. They had taken to stripping our new deck in the back yard for nesting material. Six tree rats met their maker as a result, and out of a tin of 300 pellets, I still have 293 pellets.

                                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                                      Nagy Vilmos
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                                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                      Six tree rats met their maker as a result, and out of a tin of 300 pellets, I still have 293 pellets.

                                      wah? :omg: :wtf: :confused: You missed?


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                                      • W wizardzz

                                        So the rats in my back yard have gotten out of control. There must be about 10-20 of them that have built a next under my garage and under my back porch. Kill traps are not the best option since we have other wildlife, squirrels and bunnies, and they frankly don't make traps large enough for these rats. My neighbor has started placing rat poison in their holes, in my yard, without my permission, only telling me once my dog tried to retrieve a bag of it from the hole. He has also placed a bag near my garden. I could easily shoot them on site with my .22 pellet gun, but given local laws, I'd be in jail forever. Anyways, my question is, what is the best way to fill in the holes? Is there an expanding foam that I can spray in there that will solidify and seal them off? Since I can't stop my neighbor from poisoning the holes I'd like to seal the poison into the holes so my dogs don't get to it.

                                        "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                                        wizardzz wrote:

                                        There must be about 10-20 of them that have built a next under my garage

                                        They built a NeXT? Those are some smart rodents. Hire those bastards.

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                                        • T thrakazog

                                          Can't you celebrate the 4th of July by putting an M-80 into each hole?

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                                          I have considered smoke bombs. My neighbor is pretty shell-shocked from the war still, so if I'm going to light fireworks, I need to give him a good warning. I'm pretty sure my place would burn down though.

                                          "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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