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  • W wizardzz

    So the rats in my back yard have gotten out of control. There must be about 10-20 of them that have built a next under my garage and under my back porch. Kill traps are not the best option since we have other wildlife, squirrels and bunnies, and they frankly don't make traps large enough for these rats. My neighbor has started placing rat poison in their holes, in my yard, without my permission, only telling me once my dog tried to retrieve a bag of it from the hole. He has also placed a bag near my garden. I could easily shoot them on site with my .22 pellet gun, but given local laws, I'd be in jail forever. Anyways, my question is, what is the best way to fill in the holes? Is there an expanding foam that I can spray in there that will solidify and seal them off? Since I can't stop my neighbor from poisoning the holes I'd like to seal the poison into the holes so my dogs don't get to it.

    "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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    AspDotNetDev
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    Boiling water. Lots of it. Or maybe some sort of acid.

    Driven to the ARMs by x86.

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    • W wizardzz

      Mine don't eat what they kill. Rats were intact with broken necks.

      "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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      Colin Mullikin
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      Now those are my kind of cats. Smart and deadly efficient.

      The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill

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      • W wizardzz

        Laser sites attached to any weapon, or on their own are completely illegal in my county to even possess.

        "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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        Colin Mullikin
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        I hate Cook County. Its got to have some of the most needlessly strict laws I have ever seen.

        The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill

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          I hate Cook County. Its got to have some of the most needlessly strict laws I have ever seen.

          The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill

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          wizardzz
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          Ah, lucky you, you're down in Urbana, as we like to call it "The rest of the state." Seriously Illinois is divided into Cook County and the rest of the state.

          "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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          • W wizardzz

            I have considered smoke bombs. My neighbor is pretty shell-shocked from the war still, so if I'm going to light fireworks, I need to give him a good warning. I'm pretty sure my place would burn down though.

            "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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            Colin Mullikin
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            Smoke could work pretty well if you knew where the rats were going to try to come out.

            The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill

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            • A AspDotNetDev

              Boiling water. Lots of it. Or maybe some sort of acid.

              Driven to the ARMs by x86.

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              Colin Mullikin
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              AspDotNetDev wrote:

              Boiling water. Lots of it. Or maybe some sort of acid.

              FTFY!

              The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill

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              • realJSOPR realJSOP

                How about a crossbow? :)

                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                wizardzz
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                Looking at spear guns now. I have a very odd Amazon wishlist, probably looks like I have multiple personalities.

                "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                • A Andy Brummer

                  I'm dealing with that problem now. It took me a while to get my foundation and siding sealed up with this: Great stuff[^] The neighbors had a construction refuse pile that they just cleared out so now the critters are hiding all over the yard. He's trying fox urine to scare them away. I'm probably going to stick a trap in a box with a rat sized hole in it.

                  Curvature of the Mind now with 3D

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                  wizardzz
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                  Now that I think of it, an old house right by me was recently demo'd and the entire foundation was removed and filled in. They set in like a horde in amazing numbers.

                  "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                  • W wizardzz

                    Ah, lucky you, you're down in Urbana, as we like to call it "The rest of the state." Seriously Illinois is divided into Cook County and the rest of the state.

                    "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                    Colin Mullikin
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                    wizardzz wrote:

                    Illinois is divided into Cook County and the rest of the state.

                    Sadly, that is true. And even sadder, Cook County practically controls the rest of the state.

                    wizardzz wrote:

                    you're down in Urbana

                    Actually right now, I'm in Cincinnati for an internship. And my actual hometown is roughly halfway between Chicago and Urbana.

                    The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill

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                    • W wizardzz

                      So the rats in my back yard have gotten out of control. There must be about 10-20 of them that have built a next under my garage and under my back porch. Kill traps are not the best option since we have other wildlife, squirrels and bunnies, and they frankly don't make traps large enough for these rats. My neighbor has started placing rat poison in their holes, in my yard, without my permission, only telling me once my dog tried to retrieve a bag of it from the hole. He has also placed a bag near my garden. I could easily shoot them on site with my .22 pellet gun, but given local laws, I'd be in jail forever. Anyways, my question is, what is the best way to fill in the holes? Is there an expanding foam that I can spray in there that will solidify and seal them off? Since I can't stop my neighbor from poisoning the holes I'd like to seal the poison into the holes so my dogs don't get to it.

                      "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                      S Douglas
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                      Killing them is only half the battle. You need to find their food source and get rid of that if at all possible. That is the only sure way to insure they do not come back.


                      Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.

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                        Killing them is only half the battle. You need to find their food source and get rid of that if at all possible. That is the only sure way to insure they do not come back.


                        Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.

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                        wizardzz
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                        Impossible in a city. Bars and restaurants on every corner. An alley full of city garbage cans behind every house. Garbage cans that are accessible to rats. I can only kill, annoy, repel, and destroy nesting abilities.

                        "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                        • W wizardzz

                          Hmmm, ammonia... I was going to run a hose into it, then chase that with some Cheyenne powder, shove some steel wool in there, then seal with foam. Ammonia may make the mix, too.

                          "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                          Dan Neely
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                          wizardzz wrote:

                          Cheyenne powder

                          Is this NORAD construction debris?

                          3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                            wizardzz wrote:

                            Cheyenne powder

                            Is this NORAD construction debris?

                            3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                            wizardzz
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                            Yeah, I'll mix in some White Sands, too.

                            "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                              Realistically, I don't think I would even be able to kill them all, but yeah, what repels them? I'm trying to kill / repel / discourage.

                              "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                              fjdiewornncalwe
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                              Apparently, this[^] device is supposed to work... (I have no idea what this is, it just came up on a simple image search)

                              I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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                                Apparently, this[^] device is supposed to work... (I have no idea what this is, it just came up on a simple image search)

                                I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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                                wizardzz
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                                I have seen electronic pest repellents like that before. I'm not sure if it's ok for my dogs though. I'll stop on the way home and see if I can pick one up for the garage though.

                                "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                                  I have seen electronic pest repellents like that before. I'm not sure if it's ok for my dogs though. I'll stop on the way home and see if I can pick one up for the garage though.

                                  "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                                  I have tried a couple of those before. Useless. In fact I think it attracted the damn things. We lived in the deep country at the time and when cold hit, we were getting overrun with field mice. What finally worked for us was discovering that our min pin was an avid mouse hunter. She would not eat them but goes absolutely crazy over hunting and killing them.

                                  Programming is a race between programmers trying to build bigger and better idiot proof programs, and the universe trying to build bigger and better idiots, so far... the universe is winning. A crisis on your part does not constitute one on mine.

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                                  • W wizardzz

                                    Yeah, I'll mix in some White Sands, too.

                                    "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                                    Dan Neely
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                                    Don't forget the red stone.

                                    3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                                      Don't forget the red stone.

                                      3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                                      wizardzz
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                                      Hmm, flush them out with some Blackwater?

                                      "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                                      • W wizardzz

                                        Possibly, but realistically, no. I am now pondering the ability of a blow gun to down a rat. I have used them before for target. Also considering throwing knives / hatchets now.

                                        "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                                        Roger Wright
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                                        Don't bother with the blowgun. If your rats are anything like the flying rats (pigeons) we have here, they laugh at blowgun darts, and happily fly away with darts poking clear through them. Now, if you can dip them in some of the poison your neighbor is tossing over the fence, that might make a difference. :-D

                                        Will Rogers never met me.

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                                          Don't bother with the blowgun. If your rats are anything like the flying rats (pigeons) we have here, they laugh at blowgun darts, and happily fly away with darts poking clear through them. Now, if you can dip them in some of the poison your neighbor is tossing over the fence, that might make a difference. :-D

                                          Will Rogers never met me.

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                                          wizardzz
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                                          Yikes, I think I'll try to secure their nest (my porch and my garage) and then pick up a frogging spear and a set of throwing knives. They are so brazen, get real close, and don't even hide. I could have killed 2 last night if I had just a hockey stick, but I know that would have been messy.

                                          "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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