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  • D Dmitry Ivanov

    Hello! I'm looking for solution for our team. We would like to have a 'shared folder' for all our guys, but it should be on our sever (Windows 2008), not @ Dropbox. We wouldn't like to use cloud storage, there is no need in it because we have our own server installed in a datacenter, it's accessible from the local network or thru VPN. I can't find any tool (or client/server tools) which would be the same way convenient as DB: simple to use, very quick synchronization etc. Any suggestions? How to make dropbox-like system using own hardware?

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    Um. Have you considered sharing a folder on the server?

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      Um. Have you considered sharing a folder on the server?

      Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

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      Dmitry Ivanov
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      Sure. It's the way it works now. The problem that some of us typically work out of the office. Network is not always accessible too. So everyone of us should have local copies of all the files.

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        Sure. It's the way it works now. The problem that some of us typically work out of the office. Network is not always accessible too. So everyone of us should have local copies of all the files.

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        Dalek Dave
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        Local copies are inherently unstable. Unless you have access control how do you know who is working on what? Two people could be working on the same thing, on local copies, and then how do you update? Bad idea.

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          Local copies are inherently unstable. Unless you have access control how do you know who is working on what? Two people could be working on the same thing, on local copies, and then how do you update? Bad idea.

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          Dmitry Ivanov
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          Yes, it may be a problem. Dropbox solved it - I would like to have something like that.

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          • D Dmitry Ivanov

            Hello! I'm looking for solution for our team. We would like to have a 'shared folder' for all our guys, but it should be on our sever (Windows 2008), not @ Dropbox. We wouldn't like to use cloud storage, there is no need in it because we have our own server installed in a datacenter, it's accessible from the local network or thru VPN. I can't find any tool (or client/server tools) which would be the same way convenient as DB: simple to use, very quick synchronization etc. Any suggestions? How to make dropbox-like system using own hardware?

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            Storm blade
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            What about Tonido[^] It works like dropbox with mobile apps etc, but stores the files on your PC.

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            • D Dmitry Ivanov

              Hello! I'm looking for solution for our team. We would like to have a 'shared folder' for all our guys, but it should be on our sever (Windows 2008), not @ Dropbox. We wouldn't like to use cloud storage, there is no need in it because we have our own server installed in a datacenter, it's accessible from the local network or thru VPN. I can't find any tool (or client/server tools) which would be the same way convenient as DB: simple to use, very quick synchronization etc. Any suggestions? How to make dropbox-like system using own hardware?

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              Jorgen Andersson
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              There's always Sharepoint[^]. But it might be a bit big for your purposes. But the "light" version is included with Server 2008, and is available for free [^]for Server 2003.

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              • D Dmitry Ivanov

                Sure. It's the way it works now. The problem that some of us typically work out of the office. Network is not always accessible too. So everyone of us should have local copies of all the files.

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                DaveAuld
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                Why don't you set up FTP. the clients then just set up a folder thats mapped through FTP to (Use the 'add network location' in Windows 7 'Computer' and point it to the fTP location.

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                • J Jorgen Andersson

                  There's always Sharepoint[^]. But it might be a bit big for your purposes. But the "light" version is included with Server 2008, and is available for free [^]for Server 2003.

                  List of common misconceptions

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                  Dmitry Ivanov
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                  The key feature of DB is synchronization of files between multiple PCs. So, every PC will have it's own copy of files and it will be always up to date. So I can work with my files even having no connection to the server and/or internet at all. Sharepoint is good to provide web-access to shared files, but not for this. Web access to files is not critical.

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                  • D Dmitry Ivanov

                    The key feature of DB is synchronization of files between multiple PCs. So, every PC will have it's own copy of files and it will be always up to date. So I can work with my files even having no connection to the server and/or internet at all. Sharepoint is good to provide web-access to shared files, but not for this. Web access to files is not critical.

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                    Henry Minute
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                    Dmitry Ivanov wrote:

                    So I can work with my files even having no connection to the server and/or internet at all.

                    Dmitry Ivanov wrote:

                    So, every PC will have it's own copy of files and it will be always up to date.

                    These two statements are incompatible. With no connection you cannot be sure that all copies are up to date.

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                    • D Dmitry Ivanov

                      The key feature of DB is synchronization of files between multiple PCs. So, every PC will have it's own copy of files and it will be always up to date. So I can work with my files even having no connection to the server and/or internet at all. Sharepoint is good to provide web-access to shared files, but not for this. Web access to files is not critical.

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                      Let's see if I get this right, what you want is a "Distributed Document Database". A really good one is Lotus Notes. As a mail system it sucks Donkey balls, but a distributed document database is what it was originally developed to be. It's costly though. And if you buy it, there will inevitably be some brainiac at your office that will lobby for using it as a mail system. So forget Notes! Have a look at CouchDB[^] instead. I haven't used it so I cant say if it's good.

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                      • D Dmitry Ivanov

                        Hello! I'm looking for solution for our team. We would like to have a 'shared folder' for all our guys, but it should be on our sever (Windows 2008), not @ Dropbox. We wouldn't like to use cloud storage, there is no need in it because we have our own server installed in a datacenter, it's accessible from the local network or thru VPN. I can't find any tool (or client/server tools) which would be the same way convenient as DB: simple to use, very quick synchronization etc. Any suggestions? How to make dropbox-like system using own hardware?

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                        Henry Minute
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                        Microsoft to the rescue, sort of, possibly, so long as there is some sort of connection. Microsoft Sync Toy 2.1[^].

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                        • D Dmitry Ivanov

                          Hello! I'm looking for solution for our team. We would like to have a 'shared folder' for all our guys, but it should be on our sever (Windows 2008), not @ Dropbox. We wouldn't like to use cloud storage, there is no need in it because we have our own server installed in a datacenter, it's accessible from the local network or thru VPN. I can't find any tool (or client/server tools) which would be the same way convenient as DB: simple to use, very quick synchronization etc. Any suggestions? How to make dropbox-like system using own hardware?

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                          Lost User
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                          You could use svn set up an svn server and install a client (tortoise is pretty good) on eveyone's pc

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                          • H Henry Minute

                            Dmitry Ivanov wrote:

                            So I can work with my files even having no connection to the server and/or internet at all.

                            Dmitry Ivanov wrote:

                            So, every PC will have it's own copy of files and it will be always up to date.

                            These two statements are incompatible. With no connection you cannot be sure that all copies are up to date.

                            Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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                            Dmitry Ivanov
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                            DB solves both things: makes local copies & sync's them as soon as connection is available. If there is a 'clash' (2 users changed the same file independently, then try to save it) it saves 2 copies of source with changed name. Not very elegant, but it's quite safe.

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                            • D Dmitry Ivanov

                              DB solves both things: makes local copies & sync's them as soon as connection is available. If there is a 'clash' (2 users changed the same file independently, then try to save it) it saves 2 copies of source with changed name. Not very elegant, but it's quite safe.

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                              Jorgen Andersson
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                              Maybe using offline folders[^] is having enough functionality for you. It solves conflicts the same way as Dropbox.

                              List of common misconceptions

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                                Maybe using offline folders[^] is having enough functionality for you. It solves conflicts the same way as Dropbox.

                                List of common misconceptions

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                                Dmitry Ivanov
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                                Hmmm... Forgot about this feature, I'll try, thanx...

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                                • D Dmitry Ivanov

                                  Hello! I'm looking for solution for our team. We would like to have a 'shared folder' for all our guys, but it should be on our sever (Windows 2008), not @ Dropbox. We wouldn't like to use cloud storage, there is no need in it because we have our own server installed in a datacenter, it's accessible from the local network or thru VPN. I can't find any tool (or client/server tools) which would be the same way convenient as DB: simple to use, very quick synchronization etc. Any suggestions? How to make dropbox-like system using own hardware?

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                                  Joan M
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                                  Use a shared folder and subversion to control changes... If a subversion solution doesn't work for you, then you should think on synch programs that check dates and so... Anyway, using subversion you would be able to synch, merge...

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                                  • D Dmitry Ivanov

                                    Hello! I'm looking for solution for our team. We would like to have a 'shared folder' for all our guys, but it should be on our sever (Windows 2008), not @ Dropbox. We wouldn't like to use cloud storage, there is no need in it because we have our own server installed in a datacenter, it's accessible from the local network or thru VPN. I can't find any tool (or client/server tools) which would be the same way convenient as DB: simple to use, very quick synchronization etc. Any suggestions? How to make dropbox-like system using own hardware?

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                                    Dan Neely
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                                    Subversion? Mercurial? Git? If your users have low technical levels you could probably create a scheduled task to kick off the updates in the background for them.

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                                    • D Dmitry Ivanov

                                      Hello! I'm looking for solution for our team. We would like to have a 'shared folder' for all our guys, but it should be on our sever (Windows 2008), not @ Dropbox. We wouldn't like to use cloud storage, there is no need in it because we have our own server installed in a datacenter, it's accessible from the local network or thru VPN. I can't find any tool (or client/server tools) which would be the same way convenient as DB: simple to use, very quick synchronization etc. Any suggestions? How to make dropbox-like system using own hardware?

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                                      dandy72
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                                      I'm not sure whether MS's Live Mesh fits all your criteria. I use it to keep a bunch of folders in sync across different machines on my LAN. As all systems are part of the same LAN, the content never goes out to the cloud.

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                                        I'm not sure whether MS's Live Mesh fits all your criteria. I use it to keep a bunch of folders in sync across different machines on my LAN. As all systems are part of the same LAN, the content never goes out to the cloud.

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                                        Dmitry Ivanov
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                                        It looks quite interesting. But there are some limitations: "With Windows Live Mesh, you can sync up to 200 folders, each up to 50 GB in size and containing up to 100,000 files", not sure that we can fit.

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                                        • D Dmitry Ivanov

                                          It looks quite interesting. But there are some limitations: "With Windows Live Mesh, you can sync up to 200 folders, each up to 50 GB in size and containing up to 100,000 files", not sure that we can fit.

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                                          I think that 200 folder limitation is top-level folders that you specify...ie, if you include c:\abc, then any subfolder off of 'abc' will automatically be included and only count as one. Not sure though.

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