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    Richard A Dalton
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    Sorry if this is a repost. Talk about becoming a poster boy against your will.[^]

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      Sorry if this is a repost. Talk about becoming a poster boy against your will.[^]

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      Hoist and Petard spring to mind!

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        Hoist and Petard spring to mind!

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          Hoist and Petard spring to mind!

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          Richard A Dalton
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          I was going to ask whether the last thing to go through his mind was a wish that he'd worn a helmet, but I know someone here would be tasteless enough to do the old "last thing to go through his mind" joke. See what I did there? -Richard

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            Sorry if this is a repost. Talk about becoming a poster boy against your will.[^]

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            Rajesh R Subramanian
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            A perfect (and successful) Darwin candidate! :)

            "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

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              Sorry if this is a repost. Talk about becoming a poster boy against your will.[^]

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              Article wrote:

              Troopers say Contos would have likely survived if he had been wearing a helmet.

              Indeed.

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                A perfect (and successful) Darwin candidate! :)

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                Rhuros
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                he'd only be successful as long as he's not managed to breed...

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                  Sorry if this is a repost. Talk about becoming a poster boy against your will.[^]

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                  Just goes to prove "You can do anything you want but you pay for everything you do"

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                    Just goes to prove "You can do anything you want but you pay for everything you do"

                    Unicoi State Park

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                    My question, not addressed by any of the media outlets is... Are his buddies that were protesting with him now convinced by the validity of the law? The point that a lot of these guys miss is that not all helmet-less riders are killed. Many "survive" and become a burden to the health system, insurance companies and loved ones. Now, If I had my way I'd be ok with people being free to pass on safety equipment like helmets, safety belts, life jackets. But that would automatically be a consent on their part to pass on emergency services, paramedics and life saving surgery, etc. In short, don't expect society to care for you better than you're willing to care for yourself. I admit, that one day these words may come back to haunt me when my lifetime of Bacon consumption catches up with me. But for now, I've got a high horse and I intend to ride like the wind. -Richard

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                      My question, not addressed by any of the media outlets is... Are his buddies that were protesting with him now convinced by the validity of the law? The point that a lot of these guys miss is that not all helmet-less riders are killed. Many "survive" and become a burden to the health system, insurance companies and loved ones. Now, If I had my way I'd be ok with people being free to pass on safety equipment like helmets, safety belts, life jackets. But that would automatically be a consent on their part to pass on emergency services, paramedics and life saving surgery, etc. In short, don't expect society to care for you better than you're willing to care for yourself. I admit, that one day these words may come back to haunt me when my lifetime of Bacon consumption catches up with me. But for now, I've got a high horse and I intend to ride like the wind. -Richard

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                      Richard A. Dalton wrote:

                      My question, not addressed by any of the media outlets is...
                      Are his buddies that were protesting with him now convinced by the validity of the law?

                      I bet they are considering the wisdom of riding without.

                      Richard A. Dalton wrote:

                      The point that a lot of these guys miss is that not all helmet-less riders are killed. Many "survive" and become a burden to the health system, insurance companies and loved ones.

                      Motorcycles are dangerous...period. When I was young there was a guy down the street that rode with a helmet and he got screwed up real bad...barely lived.

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                      I admit, that one day these words may come back to haunt me when my lifetime of Bacon consumption catches up with me. But for now, I've got a high horse and I intend to ride like the wind.

                      Oooo Bacon consumption...I think I have a waiver here somewhere shall I send it? :) (I just had bacon for breakfast)

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                        My question, not addressed by any of the media outlets is... Are his buddies that were protesting with him now convinced by the validity of the law? The point that a lot of these guys miss is that not all helmet-less riders are killed. Many "survive" and become a burden to the health system, insurance companies and loved ones. Now, If I had my way I'd be ok with people being free to pass on safety equipment like helmets, safety belts, life jackets. But that would automatically be a consent on their part to pass on emergency services, paramedics and life saving surgery, etc. In short, don't expect society to care for you better than you're willing to care for yourself. I admit, that one day these words may come back to haunt me when my lifetime of Bacon consumption catches up with me. But for now, I've got a high horse and I intend to ride like the wind. -Richard

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                        Hmm... I'm a fairly avid bicyclist. I know from personal experience the value of wearing a helmet during a crash. For a bicyclist, the helmet means the difference between a case of road rash and drooling in a chair for the rest of your life from a brain injury. For a motorcycle rider, it's hard to imagine the helmet makes a lot of difference in the results from a crash, given the speeds involved. Does anyone have any real data?

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                          Hmm... I'm a fairly avid bicyclist. I know from personal experience the value of wearing a helmet during a crash. For a bicyclist, the helmet means the difference between a case of road rash and drooling in a chair for the rest of your life from a brain injury. For a motorcycle rider, it's hard to imagine the helmet makes a lot of difference in the results from a crash, given the speeds involved. Does anyone have any real data?

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                          Gary R. Wheeler wrote:

                          For a motorcycle rider, it's hard to imagine the helmet makes a lot of difference in the results from a crash, given the speeds involved. Does anyone have any real data?

                          Some Interesting Stats Here[^] There is one reason why I'd question the validity of helmet laws. There are lots of people on the donor waiting lists who'll look after themselves better than a guy who won't wear a helmet on a motorbike. Surely by allowing people to not wear helmets, we're facilitating the transfer of organs from stupid people to hopefully, somewhat less stupid people. Overall society benefits. -Richard

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                            Hmm... I'm a fairly avid bicyclist. I know from personal experience the value of wearing a helmet during a crash. For a bicyclist, the helmet means the difference between a case of road rash and drooling in a chair for the rest of your life from a brain injury. For a motorcycle rider, it's hard to imagine the helmet makes a lot of difference in the results from a crash, given the speeds involved. Does anyone have any real data?

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                            Gary R. Wheeler wrote:

                            For a motorcycle rider, it's hard to imagine the helmet makes a lot of difference in the results from a crash,

                            In my younger more foolish days I had a mild accident when learning to ride a bike and ended up with my head through a hardwood paling fence, I'm extremely glad I had a helmet on!

                            Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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