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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    I skip the covering letter, and also the CV. If they have a problem, if no one else can help, and if they can find me, maybe they can hire...me. (I wish)

    Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

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    chrisseanhayes
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    Looks like I'm the only one that got that Hannibal. Tell B.A. we need the enterprise database set up on my mobile phone will ya?

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      Looks like I'm the only one that got that Hannibal. Tell B.A. we need the enterprise database set up on my mobile phone will ya?

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      OriginalGriff
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      Crazy Fool! :laugh:

      Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
      "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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      • L Lost User

        Tarting up the resume in the hope of getting to the interview is bad enough, but having to pimp yourself via a cover letter to get the resume read in the first place sucks arse big time. The creation of the cover letter is killing me at the moment.

        Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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        giuchici
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        It is a pain in the ass but I think that sometimes it may get you through to the interview. Almost like the thank you letter can count towards getting the job. Depending the situation you're in you better do it and mean it. I was the victim of a purging operation by new management. In short, 3 months ago I was head hunted for this company. The VP of software dev liked me so I got in. In a month he left and they brought in new guys. I got axed. With no job and some obligations at home I cannot be that selective so I had to write a cover letter (slightly personalized) with every resume submision. Good luck

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          Tarting up the resume in the hope of getting to the interview is bad enough, but having to pimp yourself via a cover letter to get the resume read in the first place sucks arse big time. The creation of the cover letter is killing me at the moment.

          Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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          JackSimmons
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          No matter how good you are, a little advertising goes a long way. The coverletter is the attention-getter. The resume contains the details. Both have to focus on what the potential employer is trying to accomplish. Any fakery or embellishment of those two documents can destroy your credibility and employability.

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            No matter how good you are, a little advertising goes a long way. The coverletter is the attention-getter. The resume contains the details. Both have to focus on what the potential employer is trying to accomplish. Any fakery or embellishment of those two documents can destroy your credibility and employability.

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            rnbergren
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            I agree don't lie. But the biggest but in the world is one fact. We are programmers, geeks, nerds, We think for a living and we love it. However we have no idea how to sell ourselves or our accomplishments. Heck I have written and coded dashboards that are being used at a fortune 50 company. How the heck do I put that in English that is not braggin but also isn't selling myself short. Here is one time I would highly recommend you get someone (a professional writer, public relations, sales person(shudder)) to just at least read through what you write or heck write the thing for you. That is what I had done and it made a world of difference. No lying but also the wording was perfect for me. (I am however very lucky, my wife is a writer, public relations person)

            To err is human to really mess up you need a computer

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              Tarting up the resume in the hope of getting to the interview is bad enough, but having to pimp yourself via a cover letter to get the resume read in the first place sucks arse big time. The creation of the cover letter is killing me at the moment.

              Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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              Dr Walt Fair PE
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              Sounds like a good excuse not to have a job! I haven't interviewed for a job since 1974.

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              Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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                Tarting up the resume in the hope of getting to the interview is bad enough, but having to pimp yourself via a cover letter to get the resume read in the first place sucks arse big time. The creation of the cover letter is killing me at the moment.

                Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                Don't "pimp" anything. Tell the truth. Period. If you can't stand on your merits during the interview then you'll be rooted out of the organization later. Get a good fit up-front even if it takes longer. My 2-cents. -Max

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                • S Slacker007

                  Michael, if you don't have a resume listing what you can and can not do then how do you expect to get hired? If you were hiring someone, would you not want to know what they can do? I guess resumes and cover letters are not an issue with me then - not even a thought in my mind...they never were; you just did them to get work.

                  ----------------------------- Just along for the ride. -----------------------------

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                  Stefan_Lang
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                  That's exactly what I do. I prefer to be me. :)

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                  • R rnbergren

                    I agree don't lie. But the biggest but in the world is one fact. We are programmers, geeks, nerds, We think for a living and we love it. However we have no idea how to sell ourselves or our accomplishments. Heck I have written and coded dashboards that are being used at a fortune 50 company. How the heck do I put that in English that is not braggin but also isn't selling myself short. Here is one time I would highly recommend you get someone (a professional writer, public relations, sales person(shudder)) to just at least read through what you write or heck write the thing for you. That is what I had done and it made a world of difference. No lying but also the wording was perfect for me. (I am however very lucky, my wife is a writer, public relations person)

                    To err is human to really mess up you need a computer

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                    JackSimmons
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                    rnbergren has the right idea: If you don't know how to identify and present your accomplishments, get a specialist to help you. It will be well worth the money. You will also learn something. Generally, after 35 years as a technical specialist, I have found that having skills beyond your technical area is essential to success. Having something worthwhile and traceable to put into your resume and coverletter is essential. Becoming a highly-skilled professional goes beyond resumes, cover letters, and job hunting. I and others have written a great deal on this subject. You can read more at http://informationanthology.net/CareerMentor/[^].

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                    • L Lost User

                      Tarting up the resume in the hope of getting to the interview is bad enough, but having to pimp yourself via a cover letter to get the resume read in the first place sucks arse big time. The creation of the cover letter is killing me at the moment.

                      Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                      agolddog
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                      Sorry for the tardiness gang. I was off yesterday due to my own upcoming job switch. Not going to let my soon-to-be-former employer steal time off from me. Anyway, just in case this helps someone who might come across this thread: A few years ago, we had a change in management at a company I was at. The new management wasn't taking the company in a direction that many of us believed in. So, that group of people would get together after work and review each other's resumes and cover letters, discuss opportunities, interviewing, et cetera. I found that to be incredibly helpful. People who knew you could help point out what you're good at (or not), and how to model your information to highlight you strengths. Even if it's not co-workers, having others review and critique that sort of thing is a great help.

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