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    wizardzz
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    http://bustedcoverage.com/2011/06/30/russian-womens-soccer-team-promises-bikinis-in-next-match-to-fill-seats-photos/[^] nsf prude offices. Some of the banners/links are dicey, but no nudity.

    "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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      http://bustedcoverage.com/2011/06/30/russian-womens-soccer-team-promises-bikinis-in-next-match-to-fill-seats-photos/[^] nsf prude offices. Some of the banners/links are dicey, but no nudity.

      "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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      "Blocked by Websense" Stupid net nanny. Filtering the net is one of the most annoying things the new job does.

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        "Blocked by Websense" Stupid net nanny. Filtering the net is one of the most annoying things the new job does.

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        Damn, must be like living in China or Australia.

        "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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          Damn, must be like living in China or Australia.

          "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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          Pretty much. Only things I've seen trip the filter so far are guns and boobs. Not the important things most people use the web for like facebook and youtube.

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            Pretty much. Only things I've seen trip the filter so far are guns and boobs. Not the important things most people use the web for like facebook and youtube.

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            wizardzz
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            Damn, the 2 best things on the net, and completely work relevant I would argue.

            "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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              Damn, must be like living in China or Australia.

              "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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              wizardzz wrote:

              Damn, must be like living in China or Australia.

              Really, tell me more about what it's like to live in Australia?

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                wizardzz wrote:

                Damn, must be like living in China or Australia.

                Really, tell me more about what it's like to live in Australia?

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                _Josh_ wrote:

                Really, tell me more about what it's like to live in Australia?

                Something about kangaroos, vegemite, and g'day mate.

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                  wizardzz wrote:

                  Damn, must be like living in China or Australia.

                  Really, tell me more about what it's like to live in Australia?

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                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_Australia[^] Seems you don't get the full internet, mate.

                  "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_Australia[^] Seems you don't get the full internet, mate.

                    "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                    The filter is optional

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                      The filter is optional

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                      wizardzz
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                      For now, but it is still illegal to use the webs to discuss or learn about something like suicide...

                      "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                        For now, but it is still illegal to use the webs to discuss or learn about something like suicide...

                        "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                        wizardzz wrote:

                        but it is still illegal to use the webs to discuss or learn about something like suicide...

                        It is illegal to discuss the practical aspects of suicide. I don't think it's fair to draw comparisons between the limitations placed on internet users in Australia and China. I suspect that the idea of "freedom" on the internet is a myth at best in most countries. Can you not be arrested for exchanging child porn where you live? How about conspiring to commit terrorism?

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                          wizardzz wrote:

                          but it is still illegal to use the webs to discuss or learn about something like suicide...

                          It is illegal to discuss the practical aspects of suicide. I don't think it's fair to draw comparisons between the limitations placed on internet users in Australia and China. I suspect that the idea of "freedom" on the internet is a myth at best in most countries. Can you not be arrested for exchanging child porn where you live? How about conspiring to commit terrorism?

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                          _Josh_ wrote:

                          Can you not be arrested for exchanging child porn where you live? How about conspiring to commit terrorism?

                          Those are crimes period, whether you use the internet or not. Censorship is the government denying someone the right to publish information, not the government refusing to countenance breaking the law whether it is via the internet or not.

                          The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.

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                            wizardzz wrote:

                            Damn, must be like living in China or Australia.

                            Really, tell me more about what it's like to live in Australia?

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                            (from http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/05/indian-call-center-americanization?page=3 in the CP Daily Newsletter) During our second day of culture training, Lekha dissected the Australian psyche. It took about 20 minutes. "Just stating facts, guys," Lekha began, as we scribbled notes, "Australia is known as the dumbest continent. Literally, college was unknown there until recently. So speak slowly." Next to me, a young man in a turban wrote No college in his notebook. "Technologically speaking, they're somewhat backward, as well. The average person's mobile would be no better than, say, a Nokia 3110 classic." This drew scoffs from around the room. "Australians drink constantly," Lekha continued. "If you call on a Friday night, they'll be smashed—every time. Oh, and don't attempt to make small talk with them about their pets, okay? They can be quite touchy about animals." ;P

                            We were waiting, We were watching. Yes we knew it all along. You were wrong. My Mu[sic] My Films My Windows Programs, etc.

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                              _Josh_ wrote:

                              Can you not be arrested for exchanging child porn where you live? How about conspiring to commit terrorism?

                              Those are crimes period, whether you use the internet or not. Censorship is the government denying someone the right to publish information, not the government refusing to countenance breaking the law whether it is via the internet or not.

                              The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.

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                              Suicide is illegal as is assisting someone's suicide. You can publish bomb making instructions then? Does the US have a system that monitors internet and phone traffic for key words?

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                                Suicide is illegal as is assisting someone's suicide. You can publish bomb making instructions then? Does the US have a system that monitors internet and phone traffic for key words?

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                                _Josh_ wrote:

                                You can publish bomb making instructions then?

                                Yes. A friend of mine wrote a rather famous one... twenty years ago or so. His only reference was a high school chemistry textbook. Years later some kid blew his hands off after using it and my friend ended up on one of the network evening news shows. The show was basically attacking the internet for making this information available (the internet had just gone mainstream back then). But who was ultimately responsible? My friend? The textbook? The internet? How about the kid for being an idiot?

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                                Does the US have a system that monitors internet and phone traffic for key words?

                                Yes, we call it Google. ;)

                                And sometimes when you're on, you're really f***ing on And your friends they sing along and they love you But the lows are so extreme that the good seems f***ing cheap And it teases you for weeks in its absence Rilo Kiley - "A Better Son/Daughter"

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                                  Suicide is illegal as is assisting someone's suicide. You can publish bomb making instructions then? Does the US have a system that monitors internet and phone traffic for key words?

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                                  Suicide is technically not illegal in most areas: http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2501/is-suicide-against-the-law[^] Also, the previous poster is correct, plenty of people publish bomb making instructions. Hell, you can figure out how to build certain things using government documents and/or FoIA requests. All high school chemistry teachers would also be in jail, too. The U.S. supposedly only monitors internal traffic anonymously, that is untraceable or unfocused on individuals, but keep in mind, it doesn't block these.

                                  "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                                    _Josh_ wrote:

                                    You can publish bomb making instructions then?

                                    Yes. A friend of mine wrote a rather famous one... twenty years ago or so. His only reference was a high school chemistry textbook. Years later some kid blew his hands off after using it and my friend ended up on one of the network evening news shows. The show was basically attacking the internet for making this information available (the internet had just gone mainstream back then). But who was ultimately responsible? My friend? The textbook? The internet? How about the kid for being an idiot?

                                    _Josh_ wrote:

                                    Does the US have a system that monitors internet and phone traffic for key words?

                                    Yes, we call it Google. ;)

                                    And sometimes when you're on, you're really f***ing on And your friends they sing along and they love you But the lows are so extreme that the good seems f***ing cheap And it teases you for weeks in its absence Rilo Kiley - "A Better Son/Daughter"

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                                    David Kentley wrote:

                                    Yes, we call it Google. ;)

                                    This[^] is what I was thinking of.

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                                      Suicide is technically not illegal in most areas: http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2501/is-suicide-against-the-law[^] Also, the previous poster is correct, plenty of people publish bomb making instructions. Hell, you can figure out how to build certain things using government documents and/or FoIA requests. All high school chemistry teachers would also be in jail, too. The U.S. supposedly only monitors internal traffic anonymously, that is untraceable or unfocused on individuals, but keep in mind, it doesn't block these.

                                      "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                                      wizardzz wrote:

                                      The U.S. supposedly only monitors internal traffic anonymously, that is untraceable or unfocused on individuals, but keep in mind, it doesn't block these.

                                      Australia does not block any web sites. By all means continue to compare us to a communist dictatorship. If you believe that you have freedom on the internet then more fool you.

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                                        Suicide is technically not illegal in most areas: http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2501/is-suicide-against-the-law[^] Also, the previous poster is correct, plenty of people publish bomb making instructions. Hell, you can figure out how to build certain things using government documents and/or FoIA requests. All high school chemistry teachers would also be in jail, too. The U.S. supposedly only monitors internal traffic anonymously, that is untraceable or unfocused on individuals, but keep in mind, it doesn't block these.

                                        "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_america#Trading_with_the_Enemy_Act[^] Trading with the Enemy Act In March 2008, the New York Times reported that a blacklist published by the Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC), an agency established under the Trading with the Enemy Act 1917 and other federal legislation, included a number of websites, so that U.S. companies are prohibited from doing business with those websites and must freeze their assets. The blacklist has the effect that domain name registrars based in the U.S. must block those websites. According to the New York Times, eNom, a private domain name registrar and Web hosting company operating in the U.S., disables domain names which appear on the blacklist.[23] It describes eNom’s disabling of a European travel agent’s Web sites advertising travel to Cuba, which appeared on the list[24] published by OFAC. According to the report, the U.S. government claimed that eNom was "legally required" to block the websites under U.S. law, even though the websites were not hosted in the U.S., were not targeted at U.S. persons and were legal under foreign law.

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                                          Suicide is illegal as is assisting someone's suicide. You can publish bomb making instructions then? Does the US have a system that monitors internet and phone traffic for key words?

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                                          _Josh_ wrote:

                                          Suicide is illegal

                                          Presumably you mean attempted suicide, or has Oz figured out a way of pressing criminal charges against a corpse?

                                          _Josh_ wrote:

                                          You can publish bomb making instructions then

                                          Sure, can't you?

                                          _Josh_ wrote:

                                          Does the US have a system that monitors internet and phone traffic for key words?

                                          Of course, we may even have sent a copy to Australia. It's called Predator. But that is hardly the same thing as telling ISPs that you'll put them out of business if they permit access to certain sites, now is it? From Wikipedia. "On 10 March 2009, the ACMA (Australian Communications and Media Authority) issued the Australian web-hosting company, Bulletproof Networks, with an "interim link-deletion notice" due to its customer, the Whirlpool internet community website, not deleting a link to a page on an anti-abortion web site. The web page, which is the 6th of a series of pages featuring images of aborted foetuses, had been submitted to the ACMA, who determined it was potential prohibited content, by the user whose post on Whirlpool containing the ACMA's reply was later subject to the link-deletion notice. This came with an $11,000 per day fine if the take down was not actioned after 24 hours." On 19 March 2009 it was reported that the ACMA's blacklist of banned sites had been leaked online, and had been published by Wikileaks. Julian Assange, founder of Wikileaks, obtained the blacklist after the ACMA blocked several Wikileaks pages following their publication of the Danish blacklist. Assange said that "This week saw Australia joining China and the United Arab Emirates as the only countries censoring Wikileaks." Three lists purporting to be from the ACMA were published online over a seven day period. The leaked list, which was reported to have been obtained from a manufacturer of internet filtering software, contained 2395 sites. Approximately half of the sites on the list were not related to child pornography, and included online gambling sites, YouTube pages, gay, straight, and fetish pornography sites, Wikipedia entries, euthanasia sites, websites of fringe religions, Christian sites, and even the websites of a tour operator and a Queensland dentist. A dentist???

                                          The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three

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