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    Stephane_Roy
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    After many years I just realized something weird with the way I'm writing and browsing OO code. I have no problem writing OO code (and non OO code) but whenever I browse the code, I (too frequently...) browse the code by first opening the file and then searching inside instead of simply using the class viewer. Does it mean that the very first language you learn will burn your neurons in such a way that (whatever the language you're using) the work habits that you acquired with the first one will dominate? Am I the only one? Am I weird? Do I need some therapy? ;)

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      After many years I just realized something weird with the way I'm writing and browsing OO code. I have no problem writing OO code (and non OO code) but whenever I browse the code, I (too frequently...) browse the code by first opening the file and then searching inside instead of simply using the class viewer. Does it mean that the very first language you learn will burn your neurons in such a way that (whatever the language you're using) the work habits that you acquired with the first one will dominate? Am I the only one? Am I weird? Do I need some therapy? ;)

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      Rage
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      Stéphane_Roy wrote:

      Am I weird?

      Well, how should I start, ...

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        After many years I just realized something weird with the way I'm writing and browsing OO code. I have no problem writing OO code (and non OO code) but whenever I browse the code, I (too frequently...) browse the code by first opening the file and then searching inside instead of simply using the class viewer. Does it mean that the very first language you learn will burn your neurons in such a way that (whatever the language you're using) the work habits that you acquired with the first one will dominate? Am I the only one? Am I weird? Do I need some therapy? ;)

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        When you're familiar with the code, it's faster to just start in the code. When it's a foreign library, the class browser is the best place to start (or just let intellisense guide you).

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          Stéphane_Roy wrote:

          Am I weird?

          Well, how should I start, ...

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          Stephane_Roy
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          I knew it... I need a therapy ASAP.

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            After many years I just realized something weird with the way I'm writing and browsing OO code. I have no problem writing OO code (and non OO code) but whenever I browse the code, I (too frequently...) browse the code by first opening the file and then searching inside instead of simply using the class viewer. Does it mean that the very first language you learn will burn your neurons in such a way that (whatever the language you're using) the work habits that you acquired with the first one will dominate? Am I the only one? Am I weird? Do I need some therapy? ;)

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            Chris Losinger
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            i've never successfully used the class browser for anything. Crtl-F is sufficient for most things.

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              After many years I just realized something weird with the way I'm writing and browsing OO code. I have no problem writing OO code (and non OO code) but whenever I browse the code, I (too frequently...) browse the code by first opening the file and then searching inside instead of simply using the class viewer. Does it mean that the very first language you learn will burn your neurons in such a way that (whatever the language you're using) the work habits that you acquired with the first one will dominate? Am I the only one? Am I weird? Do I need some therapy? ;)

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              thrakazog
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              Stéphane_Roy wrote:

              Does it mean that the very first language you learn will burn your neurons

              I really hope not. I started with Q-basic hacking up Gorilla and Nibbles.

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                After many years I just realized something weird with the way I'm writing and browsing OO code. I have no problem writing OO code (and non OO code) but whenever I browse the code, I (too frequently...) browse the code by first opening the file and then searching inside instead of simply using the class viewer. Does it mean that the very first language you learn will burn your neurons in such a way that (whatever the language you're using) the work habits that you acquired with the first one will dominate? Am I the only one? Am I weird? Do I need some therapy? ;)

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                Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                I don't use the class viewer, it hides too much code. Also, the fact of the matter is that OO code is not organized to make it efficient to find a method. For example, if you have an interface method called GetArea(); The class viewer will not show you the method that uses it. You have to use institutional knowledge to find all instances or a search tool. However, in the file viewer, if your code is organized with respect to finding logically grouped files then you will be more efficient.

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                  Stéphane_Roy wrote:

                  Does it mean that the very first language you learn will burn your neurons

                  I really hope not. I started with Q-basic hacking up Gorilla and Nibbles.

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                  David Crow
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                  Ahhh, those were the days. :cool:

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                    After many years I just realized something weird with the way I'm writing and browsing OO code. I have no problem writing OO code (and non OO code) but whenever I browse the code, I (too frequently...) browse the code by first opening the file and then searching inside instead of simply using the class viewer. Does it mean that the very first language you learn will burn your neurons in such a way that (whatever the language you're using) the work habits that you acquired with the first one will dominate? Am I the only one? Am I weird? Do I need some therapy? ;)

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                    Peter Mulholland
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                    You're not the only one. However I used to use the Class browser until MS frakked the damn thing up. What the hell was wrong with the tree view? Who the hell thinks a split window is more usable????? And then there was the times it just didn't work. FRAAAAAAKKKKKK!!! I agev up on the class view a good while back.

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                      You're not the only one. However I used to use the Class browser until MS frakked the damn thing up. What the hell was wrong with the tree view? Who the hell thinks a split window is more usable????? And then there was the times it just didn't work. FRAAAAAAKKKKKK!!! I agev up on the class view a good while back.

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                      Henry Minute
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                      Peter Mulholland wrote:

                      I agev

                      You should be awarded additional points for throwing in a double axel there, Peter. The British judge is showing 6.9.

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                        After many years I just realized something weird with the way I'm writing and browsing OO code. I have no problem writing OO code (and non OO code) but whenever I browse the code, I (too frequently...) browse the code by first opening the file and then searching inside instead of simply using the class viewer. Does it mean that the very first language you learn will burn your neurons in such a way that (whatever the language you're using) the work habits that you acquired with the first one will dominate? Am I the only one? Am I weird? Do I need some therapy? ;)

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                        Rob Philpott
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                        It's odd. Always used to use the class browser as my primary naviagator in VC++ up to version 6, but since moving to VS.NET I always use the file view. I think everyone does, but not quite sure why...

                        Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                          After many years I just realized something weird with the way I'm writing and browsing OO code. I have no problem writing OO code (and non OO code) but whenever I browse the code, I (too frequently...) browse the code by first opening the file and then searching inside instead of simply using the class viewer. Does it mean that the very first language you learn will burn your neurons in such a way that (whatever the language you're using) the work habits that you acquired with the first one will dominate? Am I the only one? Am I weird? Do I need some therapy? ;)

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                          Stéphane_Roy wrote:

                          Does it mean that the very first language you learn will burn your neurons in such a way that (whatever the language you're using) the work habits that you acquired with the first one will dominate?

                          Certainly not, or else I would have to do everything in hexadecimal :)

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                            Stéphane_Roy wrote:

                            Does it mean that the very first language you learn will burn your neurons

                            I really hope not. I started with Q-basic hacking up Gorilla and Nibbles.

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                            O man i totaly forgot haha thanks for making me diggin my memory for that code haha ;P

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                              i've never successfully used the class browser for anything. Crtl-F is sufficient for most things.

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                              LucianPopescu
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                              Chris Losinger wrote:

                              Crtl-F is sufficient for most things.

                              or Ctrl+Shift+F. :)

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                                Stéphane_Roy wrote:

                                Does it mean that the very first language you learn will burn your neurons in such a way that (whatever the language you're using) the work habits that you acquired with the first one will dominate?

                                Certainly not, or else I would have to do everything in hexadecimal :)

                                "Dark the dark side is. Very dark..." - Yoda ---
                                "Shut up, Yoda, and just make yourself another toast." - Obi Wan Kenobi

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                                Didn't know hex was a language. I learned higher level languages first and then learned how to read hex dumps, then octal dumps (Started on IBM 32 bit, then CDC 60 bit.)

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                                  Stéphane_Roy wrote:

                                  Does it mean that the very first language you learn will burn your neurons

                                  I really hope not. I started with Q-basic hacking up Gorilla and Nibbles.

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                                  Zaibot
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                                  Completely forgot, I accidentally started programming hacking Gorillaz then programming in Q-Basic when I was trying to find Cubase. Since then my live has been turned to programming and never looked back the other way (more then a week) :)

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