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  • P Paul Watson

    Ok so I revealed I have a favourite spoon awhile back, just one of my strange quirks. Here is another: I have a preferred order for applications on my taskbar, and will close and re-open apps to ensure the order is correct. Currently it goes (from left to right): Nelson Email Organiser, VS.NET, Internet Explorer, Fireworks, SQL Enterprise Manager and then anything else I use less frequently. (Windows Media Player gets minimized to the taskbar player control which always sits on the far right) I also have the taskbar set to groups so if there are two IEs open then it is one item on the taskbar. Do you also have a preffered order? Actually the reason for this post is I hope someone replies with "But Paul! Download XYZ Taskbar Orderer and then you can drag the items around to your hearts content!" or "But Paul! Just write a small app yourself which hooks into XYZ Windows API." That would be awesome. I am sure Michael Dunn, shell guru extraordinaire, already knows how to do it :-D * TFP = Typical Friday Post

    Paul Watson
    Bluegrass
    Cape Town, South Africa

    Paul Watson wrote: "The Labia [cinema]... ...was opened by Princess Labia in May 1949..." Christian Graus wrote: See, I told you it was a nice name for a girl...

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    That reminded me of another great idea I had once, but I don't have the time or skill to implement it. When you've got lots of apps open for a long period, if you don't use one it's fairly normal for Windows to swap this task to disk, meaning when you click the task tray button it takes a while to un-swap the task before it can gain focus So how about changing the background colour of the task buttons so that they behave like a progress bar - you'd instantly be able to see which apps were swapped away, and when you clicked on one you'd see it load again, so you'd know that something was actually happening -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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    • P Paul Watson

      Ok so I revealed I have a favourite spoon awhile back, just one of my strange quirks. Here is another: I have a preferred order for applications on my taskbar, and will close and re-open apps to ensure the order is correct. Currently it goes (from left to right): Nelson Email Organiser, VS.NET, Internet Explorer, Fireworks, SQL Enterprise Manager and then anything else I use less frequently. (Windows Media Player gets minimized to the taskbar player control which always sits on the far right) I also have the taskbar set to groups so if there are two IEs open then it is one item on the taskbar. Do you also have a preffered order? Actually the reason for this post is I hope someone replies with "But Paul! Download XYZ Taskbar Orderer and then you can drag the items around to your hearts content!" or "But Paul! Just write a small app yourself which hooks into XYZ Windows API." That would be awesome. I am sure Michael Dunn, shell guru extraordinaire, already knows how to do it :-D * TFP = Typical Friday Post

      Paul Watson
      Bluegrass
      Cape Town, South Africa

      Paul Watson wrote: "The Labia [cinema]... ...was opened by Princess Labia in May 1949..." Christian Graus wrote: See, I told you it was a nice name for a girl...

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      Paul Watson wrote: Ok so I revealed I have a favourite spoon awhile back, just one of my strange quirks. Here is another: I have a preferred order for applications on my taskbar, and will close and re-open apps to ensure the order is correct. If people don't have favourite belongings and orders to things they are fucked up. Where ever I have lived and which ever relatives are particularly close so that I visit often, I will have a favourite type of plate and cutlery to use and a favourite mug and glass. It's just the way it is. As for icons, Windows Explorer first, always, nothing else. Then Outlook, IE Homepage, IE Code Project then who cares. Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002

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      • P Paul Watson

        Ok so I revealed I have a favourite spoon awhile back, just one of my strange quirks. Here is another: I have a preferred order for applications on my taskbar, and will close and re-open apps to ensure the order is correct. Currently it goes (from left to right): Nelson Email Organiser, VS.NET, Internet Explorer, Fireworks, SQL Enterprise Manager and then anything else I use less frequently. (Windows Media Player gets minimized to the taskbar player control which always sits on the far right) I also have the taskbar set to groups so if there are two IEs open then it is one item on the taskbar. Do you also have a preffered order? Actually the reason for this post is I hope someone replies with "But Paul! Download XYZ Taskbar Orderer and then you can drag the items around to your hearts content!" or "But Paul! Just write a small app yourself which hooks into XYZ Windows API." That would be awesome. I am sure Michael Dunn, shell guru extraordinaire, already knows how to do it :-D * TFP = Typical Friday Post

        Paul Watson
        Bluegrass
        Cape Town, South Africa

        Paul Watson wrote: "The Labia [cinema]... ...was opened by Princess Labia in May 1949..." Christian Graus wrote: See, I told you it was a nice name for a girl...

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        I always wanted something to re-order my taskbar items.... About writing it: it#s really just a bunch of radiobuttons. should be no problem ;)


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          Paul Watson wrote: Ok so I revealed I have a favourite spoon awhile back, just one of my strange quirks. Here is another: I have a preferred order for applications on my taskbar, and will close and re-open apps to ensure the order is correct. If people don't have favourite belongings and orders to things they are fucked up. Where ever I have lived and which ever relatives are particularly close so that I visit often, I will have a favourite type of plate and cutlery to use and a favourite mug and glass. It's just the way it is. As for icons, Windows Explorer first, always, nothing else. Then Outlook, IE Homepage, IE Code Project then who cares. Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002

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          Paul Watson
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          Michael Martin wrote: I will have a favourite type of plate and cutlery to use and a favourite mug and glass. It's just the way it is. :-D So true.

          Paul Watson
          Bluegrass
          Cape Town, South Africa

          Paul Watson wrote: "The Labia [cinema]... ...was opened by Princess Labia in May 1949..." Christian Graus wrote: See, I told you it was a nice name for a girl...

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          • P Paul Watson

            Ok so I revealed I have a favourite spoon awhile back, just one of my strange quirks. Here is another: I have a preferred order for applications on my taskbar, and will close and re-open apps to ensure the order is correct. Currently it goes (from left to right): Nelson Email Organiser, VS.NET, Internet Explorer, Fireworks, SQL Enterprise Manager and then anything else I use less frequently. (Windows Media Player gets minimized to the taskbar player control which always sits on the far right) I also have the taskbar set to groups so if there are two IEs open then it is one item on the taskbar. Do you also have a preffered order? Actually the reason for this post is I hope someone replies with "But Paul! Download XYZ Taskbar Orderer and then you can drag the items around to your hearts content!" or "But Paul! Just write a small app yourself which hooks into XYZ Windows API." That would be awesome. I am sure Michael Dunn, shell guru extraordinaire, already knows how to do it :-D * TFP = Typical Friday Post

            Paul Watson
            Bluegrass
            Cape Town, South Africa

            Paul Watson wrote: "The Labia [cinema]... ...was opened by Princess Labia in May 1949..." Christian Graus wrote: See, I told you it was a nice name for a girl...

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            I very rarely use the taskbar, I'm an Alt-Tab kind of person. Michael Fat bottomed girls You make the rockin' world go round -- Queen

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            • P Paul Watson

              Richard Deeming wrote: But Paul! Download Paul Vickery's Taskbar Sorter utility[^] and then you can drag the items around to your heart's content LOL! Thanks Richard. And the "but Paul" app is even right here on CP :-O

              Paul Watson
              Bluegrass
              Cape Town, South Africa

              Paul Watson wrote: "The Labia [cinema]... ...was opened by Princess Labia in May 1949..." Christian Graus wrote: See, I told you it was a nice name for a girl...

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              Cool! This is a nice organizational utility. However, you have to turn of "group similar taskbar buttons" for the sorter to work correctly. Actually, I think I like it turned off. Several times I've had the "hey, where did that app go???" reaction. Sort of like when I accidentally minimized the entire taskbar about 2 days after installing Windows 95. It took (I'm embarrassed to say) about an hour before I realized what had happened. Sure learned some keyboard shortcuts though (this was in the days before keyboards had the "windows" key)! Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
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                Cool! This is a nice organizational utility. However, you have to turn of "group similar taskbar buttons" for the sorter to work correctly. Actually, I think I like it turned off. Several times I've had the "hey, where did that app go???" reaction. Sort of like when I accidentally minimized the entire taskbar about 2 days after installing Windows 95. It took (I'm embarrassed to say) about an hour before I realized what had happened. Sure learned some keyboard shortcuts though (this was in the days before keyboards had the "windows" key)! Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
                Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
                Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka

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                Marc Clifton wrote: Sort of like when I accidentally minimized the entire taskbar about 2 days after installing Windows 95. It took (I'm embarrassed to say) LOL no worries, think we all have embarrassing stories like that. Strangely enough ever since I started using Windows XP with the Watercolor skin I have kept the taskbar on show all the time. Before that I always had it on autohide. I wonder why? Marc Clifton wrote: group similar taskbar buttons I love that. Especially when I have 10 IEs open. Absolute nightmare without the grouping on.

                Paul Watson
                Bluegrass
                Cape Town, South Africa

                Paul Watson wrote: "The Labia [cinema]... ...was opened by Princess Labia in May 1949..." Christian Graus wrote: See, I told you it was a nice name for a girl...

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                  I very rarely use the taskbar, I'm an Alt-Tab kind of person. Michael Fat bottomed girls You make the rockin' world go round -- Queen

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                  Michael P Butler wrote: I very rarely use the taskbar, I'm an Alt-Tab kind of person. There is a definite grouping amongst computer users. Those who are mouse bound and those who are keyboard bound. I am the former. A former co-worker was amazing to watch in SQL Enterprise Manager (he was a DBA.) He knew every keyboard shortcut and order number of each item. About the only time he used the mouse was to scroll to a certain line. The rest of the time it was a blur of shortcuts and keyboard hammering.

                  Paul Watson
                  Bluegrass
                  Cape Town, South Africa

                  Paul Watson wrote: "The Labia [cinema]... ...was opened by Princess Labia in May 1949..." Christian Graus wrote: See, I told you it was a nice name for a girl...

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                    Marc Clifton wrote: Sort of like when I accidentally minimized the entire taskbar about 2 days after installing Windows 95. It took (I'm embarrassed to say) LOL no worries, think we all have embarrassing stories like that. Strangely enough ever since I started using Windows XP with the Watercolor skin I have kept the taskbar on show all the time. Before that I always had it on autohide. I wonder why? Marc Clifton wrote: group similar taskbar buttons I love that. Especially when I have 10 IEs open. Absolute nightmare without the grouping on.

                    Paul Watson
                    Bluegrass
                    Cape Town, South Africa

                    Paul Watson wrote: "The Labia [cinema]... ...was opened by Princess Labia in May 1949..." Christian Graus wrote: See, I told you it was a nice name for a girl...

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                    Especially when I have 10 IEs open. Absolute nightmare without the grouping on. That's the one selling point of Phoenix--tabbed windows. Other than that, I pretty much am annoyed at the Mozilla/Netscape differences. Therefore, I also keep one IE window open so I have "clickety" capability when posting a message on CP. Plus, Phoenix comes with a built in ad killer. Why else DO you have 10 IE windows open??? I find it very mysterious how, when I go to a website in Phoenix, it just happens yet when I do the same thing in IE, my disk drive goes nutso, the house lights dim, faint music can be heard from the heavens... (no, seriously, only the disk goes nuts. Why is that???) There's a CP article where someone did tabbed windows with IE--it looked pretty good--I bookmarked it, but don't use it because I really like the ad killer capability of Phoenix. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
                    Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
                    Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka

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                      Cool! This is a nice organizational utility. However, you have to turn of "group similar taskbar buttons" for the sorter to work correctly. Actually, I think I like it turned off. Several times I've had the "hey, where did that app go???" reaction. Sort of like when I accidentally minimized the entire taskbar about 2 days after installing Windows 95. It took (I'm embarrassed to say) about an hour before I realized what had happened. Sure learned some keyboard shortcuts though (this was in the days before keyboards had the "windows" key)! Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
                      Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
                      Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka

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                      Marc Clifton wrote: Sort of like when I accidentally minimized the entire taskbar about 2 days after installing Windows 95. It took (I'm embarrassed to say) about an hour before I realized what had happened. That happened to me too!

                      Jason Henderson
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                      • P Paul Watson

                        Michael P Butler wrote: I very rarely use the taskbar, I'm an Alt-Tab kind of person. There is a definite grouping amongst computer users. Those who are mouse bound and those who are keyboard bound. I am the former. A former co-worker was amazing to watch in SQL Enterprise Manager (he was a DBA.) He knew every keyboard shortcut and order number of each item. About the only time he used the mouse was to scroll to a certain line. The rest of the time it was a blur of shortcuts and keyboard hammering.

                        Paul Watson
                        Bluegrass
                        Cape Town, South Africa

                        Paul Watson wrote: "The Labia [cinema]... ...was opened by Princess Labia in May 1949..." Christian Graus wrote: See, I told you it was a nice name for a girl...

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                        Paul Watson wrote: There is a definite grouping amongst computer users. Those who are mouse bound and those who are keyboard bound. I am the former. I've been using PCs a long time, long before a mouse was standard issue. Keyboard usage just feels more naturally, especially when switching between apps. Michael Fat bottomed girls You make the rockin' world go round -- Queen

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                        • P Paul Watson

                          Ok so I revealed I have a favourite spoon awhile back, just one of my strange quirks. Here is another: I have a preferred order for applications on my taskbar, and will close and re-open apps to ensure the order is correct. Currently it goes (from left to right): Nelson Email Organiser, VS.NET, Internet Explorer, Fireworks, SQL Enterprise Manager and then anything else I use less frequently. (Windows Media Player gets minimized to the taskbar player control which always sits on the far right) I also have the taskbar set to groups so if there are two IEs open then it is one item on the taskbar. Do you also have a preffered order? Actually the reason for this post is I hope someone replies with "But Paul! Download XYZ Taskbar Orderer and then you can drag the items around to your hearts content!" or "But Paul! Just write a small app yourself which hooks into XYZ Windows API." That would be awesome. I am sure Michael Dunn, shell guru extraordinaire, already knows how to do it :-D * TFP = Typical Friday Post

                          Paul Watson
                          Bluegrass
                          Cape Town, South Africa

                          Paul Watson wrote: "The Labia [cinema]... ...was opened by Princess Labia in May 1949..." Christian Graus wrote: See, I told you it was a nice name for a girl...

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                          I understood your spoon thing, Paul, but this..... well...umm There's actually a real benefit gained by doing this? :confused: You don't keep your closet in order of color, or style or some such thing, too, do you? ;P BW "If you enjoy what you do, you'll never work another day in your life." - Confucius

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                          • P Paul Watson

                            Ok so I revealed I have a favourite spoon awhile back, just one of my strange quirks. Here is another: I have a preferred order for applications on my taskbar, and will close and re-open apps to ensure the order is correct. Currently it goes (from left to right): Nelson Email Organiser, VS.NET, Internet Explorer, Fireworks, SQL Enterprise Manager and then anything else I use less frequently. (Windows Media Player gets minimized to the taskbar player control which always sits on the far right) I also have the taskbar set to groups so if there are two IEs open then it is one item on the taskbar. Do you also have a preffered order? Actually the reason for this post is I hope someone replies with "But Paul! Download XYZ Taskbar Orderer and then you can drag the items around to your hearts content!" or "But Paul! Just write a small app yourself which hooks into XYZ Windows API." That would be awesome. I am sure Michael Dunn, shell guru extraordinaire, already knows how to do it :-D * TFP = Typical Friday Post

                            Paul Watson
                            Bluegrass
                            Cape Town, South Africa

                            Paul Watson wrote: "The Labia [cinema]... ...was opened by Princess Labia in May 1949..." Christian Graus wrote: See, I told you it was a nice name for a girl...

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                            Paul, It is not realy what you are after but, have you tried the Virtual Desktop Manager that comes with PowerToys? It gives you 4 virtual desktops to work with. It's a handy tool for keeping your work organized if you are like me and have lots of apps open at once. Fill me with your knowledge, your wisdom, your coffee.

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                              Ok so I revealed I have a favourite spoon awhile back, just one of my strange quirks. Here is another: I have a preferred order for applications on my taskbar, and will close and re-open apps to ensure the order is correct. Currently it goes (from left to right): Nelson Email Organiser, VS.NET, Internet Explorer, Fireworks, SQL Enterprise Manager and then anything else I use less frequently. (Windows Media Player gets minimized to the taskbar player control which always sits on the far right) I also have the taskbar set to groups so if there are two IEs open then it is one item on the taskbar. Do you also have a preffered order? Actually the reason for this post is I hope someone replies with "But Paul! Download XYZ Taskbar Orderer and then you can drag the items around to your hearts content!" or "But Paul! Just write a small app yourself which hooks into XYZ Windows API." That would be awesome. I am sure Michael Dunn, shell guru extraordinaire, already knows how to do it :-D * TFP = Typical Friday Post

                              Paul Watson
                              Bluegrass
                              Cape Town, South Africa

                              Paul Watson wrote: "The Labia [cinema]... ...was opened by Princess Labia in May 1949..." Christian Graus wrote: See, I told you it was a nice name for a girl...

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                              Paul Watson wrote: Do you also have a preffered order? Absolutely! Outlook Express first, then IE open to CP, then VS6, and lastly any other of up to a dozen tasks. The thing that screws me up sometimes is that when I click on a link in an email, usually a response from CP, it opens a new instance of IE instead of the existing one and screws up my preferred order. "How many times do I have to flush before you go away?" - Megan Forbes, on Management (12/5/2002)

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                                Paul Watson wrote: Do you also have a preffered order? Absolutely! Outlook Express first, then IE open to CP, then VS6, and lastly any other of up to a dozen tasks. The thing that screws me up sometimes is that when I click on a link in an email, usually a response from CP, it opens a new instance of IE instead of the existing one and screws up my preferred order. "How many times do I have to flush before you go away?" - Megan Forbes, on Management (12/5/2002)

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                                Roger Wright wrote: it opens a new instance of IE instead of the existing one and screws up my preferred order Aarrgghh! You are one of those strange people who like IE to open a new URL in an existing window! I detest that (the "feature", not you lol) and start throwing things out the window when some app does it. Even with "Re-use IE windows" unchecked some apps don't listen. For a web developer when you are ten forms into a checkout procedure and an app overwrites that page with a new URL, it is damned annoying. Plus the taskbar grouping in Windows XP then stops new IE windows from getting un-ordered. Heaven :-D

                                Paul Watson
                                Bluegrass
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                                Paul Watson wrote: "The Labia [cinema]... ...was opened by Princess Labia in May 1949..." Christian Graus wrote: See, I told you it was a nice name for a girl...

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                                  Paul, It is not realy what you are after but, have you tried the Virtual Desktop Manager that comes with PowerToys? It gives you 4 virtual desktops to work with. It's a handy tool for keeping your work organized if you are like me and have lots of apps open at once. Fill me with your knowledge, your wisdom, your coffee.

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                                  Chris Austin wrote: have you tried the Virtual Desktop Manager that comes with PowerToys Indeed I have and alas I could not get used to it. I only gave it ten minutes though. Thanks though, I may try it again.

                                  Paul Watson
                                  Bluegrass
                                  Cape Town, South Africa

                                  Paul Watson wrote: "The Labia [cinema]... ...was opened by Princess Labia in May 1949..." Christian Graus wrote: See, I told you it was a nice name for a girl...

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                                    But Paul! Download Paul Vickery's Taskbar Sorter utility[^] and then you can drag the items around to your heart's content! :-D


                                    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                                    I use ButtonBoogie[^] (a PC Magazine utility) You can rearrange the buttons using drag 'n drop. It can "try to" remember your preferred arrangement.

                                    Bruce Duncan, CP#9088, CPUA 0xA1EE, Sonork 100.10030
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                                      Paul Watson wrote: Ok so I revealed I have a favourite spoon awhile back, just one of my strange quirks. Here is another: I have a preferred order for applications on my taskbar, and will close and re-open apps to ensure the order is correct. If people don't have favourite belongings and orders to things they are fucked up. Where ever I have lived and which ever relatives are particularly close so that I visit often, I will have a favourite type of plate and cutlery to use and a favourite mug and glass. It's just the way it is. As for icons, Windows Explorer first, always, nothing else. Then Outlook, IE Homepage, IE Code Project then who cares. Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002

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                                      Michael Martin wrote: As for icons, Windows Explorer first, always, nothing else. *sigh* I used to do that. But i tend to leave my PC running all week without logging off, and Explorer likes to crash more often than that. :(

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                                        Michael Martin wrote: As for icons, Windows Explorer first, always, nothing else. *sigh* I used to do that. But i tend to leave my PC running all week without logging off, and Explorer likes to crash more often than that. :(

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                                        Shog9 wrote: *sigh* I used to do that. But i tend to leave my PC running all week without logging off, and Explorer likes to crash more often than that. :( Completely your own fault I'm afraid Shog9. Everybody else seems to have realised that even computers can't put up with Windows for any length of time. Forcing your computer to endure Windows for an entire week, I'm surprised it didn't commit suicide. Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002

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