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    Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

    Most of the Interstates in the U.S. outside of major cities are very straight and in excellent condition easily supporting triple digit speeds.

    Except that those are only two of a number of factors that go into determining the working speed limit. The other, probably more important one, is stopping sight distance. That's why you see long, straing roads with low limits when there are dips, rises, driveways and intersecting roads. Basically you have to have enough time to stop when something comes into view. Cheers, Drew.

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    Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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    The "Interstate" in the U.S. doesn't usually have driveways, intersecting roads, oncoming traffic, or sight distance issues. In fact, I have yet to see a portion of the Interstate where I couldn't come to a complete stop nearly a mile before a visual obstruction (outside of major metropolitan areas).

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    • S Slacker007

      On I-90 here in NY I have been cruising at 75 in a 65 with a State Trooper watching with no prob...he himself is cruising with the rest of us at the speed of traffic. Now if someone were to go 90 then that is not traveling at the speed of traffic and is a safety risk, same thing with a slow poke....safety.

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      AspDotNetDev
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      That's not the same thing. I'm pretty sure that if everybody else is speeding and I'm going the speed limit, I cannot be given a ticket. And if I'm speeding at the same speed everybody else is speeding (whether it is 5MPH over the limit or 30MPH over the limit), I can be given a ticket. Regardless of actual safety, I believe this is the law.

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        That's not the same thing. I'm pretty sure that if everybody else is speeding and I'm going the speed limit, I cannot be given a ticket. And if I'm speeding at the same speed everybody else is speeding (whether it is 5MPH over the limit or 30MPH over the limit), I can be given a ticket. Regardless of actual safety, I believe this is the law.

        Driven to the ARMs by x86.

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        Slacker007
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        AspDotNetDev wrote:

        I'm pretty sure that if everybody else is speeding and I'm going the speed limit, I cannot be given a ticket.

        If your speed is perceived as a danger to everyone else on the road (slow or fast) then you are wrong and the law can give you a ticket...regardless of the posted speed limit signs. The speed limit signs are guides. If the speed of the majority is getting to be to high for the area being patrolled then law enforcement usually will make that determination and start ticketing to slow the herd down. My sister in law is a California Sheriff. I'm not making this stuff up. :) -- Every state and local county/city/village is different. All the ones I have lived in, follow this methodology.

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        • D David Crow

          digital man wrote:

          ...the morons who don't understand that a stop sign means stop...

          So stop signs should be taken literally, but speed limit signs are merely a suggestion? :confused:

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          Slacker007
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          DavidCrow wrote:

          So stop signs should be taken literally, but speed limit signs are merely a suggestion?

          You almost sound to me like you have no experience driving on the highways and roads of the United States. If you did, then you would not be so confused. Now you got me confused. :)

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            AspDotNetDev wrote:

            I'm pretty sure that if everybody else is speeding and I'm going the speed limit, I cannot be given a ticket.

            If your speed is perceived as a danger to everyone else on the road (slow or fast) then you are wrong and the law can give you a ticket...regardless of the posted speed limit signs. The speed limit signs are guides. If the speed of the majority is getting to be to high for the area being patrolled then law enforcement usually will make that determination and start ticketing to slow the herd down. My sister in law is a California Sheriff. I'm not making this stuff up. :) -- Every state and local county/city/village is different. All the ones I have lived in, follow this methodology.

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            AspDotNetDev
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            So if traffic is going 70 and the speed limit is 60, there is no sure way to avoid a ticket? I do not think that is correct.

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              So if traffic is going 70 and the speed limit is 60, there is no sure way to avoid a ticket? I do not think that is correct.

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              Slacker007
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              AspDotNetDev wrote:

              there is no sure way to avoid a ticket?

              Correct. However, chances of you getting a ticket are very low if you are traveling at the same speed as everyone else, whether it is 40 MPH or 400 MPH. ;)

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              • S Slacker007

                Your entitled to your opinion. Since I have never been to Europe or the UK I really can't talk shit about your small cars and small ... :-D

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                R Giskard Reventlov
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                Slacker007 wrote:

                Your entitled to your opinion

                No, an observation: I've lived lengthy periods both places and still come and go regularly and look forward to some real driving on open roads in the US but driving in the cities... I'd rather take the bus.

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                • D David Crow

                  digital man wrote:

                  ...the morons who don't understand that a stop sign means stop...

                  So stop signs should be taken literally, but speed limit signs are merely a suggestion? :confused:

                  "One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson

                  "Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

                  "Some people are making such thorough preparation for rainy days that they aren't enjoying today's sunshine." - William Feather

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                  R Giskard Reventlov
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                  Be a bit dumb the other way around, don't you think? :)

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                  • G GenJerDan

                    Slacker007 wrote:

                    Common sense.

                    Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! But my favorites are the morons who slow down becasue they see a police car. They weren't going over the speed limit or anything, mind you. Unless the idiots this morning were all drug-runners afraid to be pulled over for a broken taillight, they had no reason to drop to 50 when the cop car pulled out onto the highway. We were all doing a nice get-to-work-on-time 70 before then.

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                    BobJanova
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                    That one's not moronic if you are doing over the limit ... it is quite silly to overtake a policeman at 20 over the limit and get caught. (Same reason people brake for cameras.) Though yes, if they slow down to less than the limit, that's unnecessary.

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                      That one's not moronic if you are doing over the limit ... it is quite silly to overtake a policeman at 20 over the limit and get caught. (Same reason people brake for cameras.) Though yes, if they slow down to less than the limit, that's unnecessary.

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                      GenJerDan
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                      As was the case here. We were all doing the limit (70) until the police entered the highway. The ones in front of me slowed to 50...in the left lane. I patiently waited until they got the hell out of my way, then went back up to 70 and passed them. And the police car. :)

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                      • G GenJerDan

                        As was the case here. We were all doing the limit (70) until the police entered the highway. The ones in front of me slowed to 50...in the left lane. I patiently waited until they got the hell out of my way, then went back up to 70 and passed them. And the police car. :)

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                        BobJanova
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                        Yeah if the limit was 70 that is dumb. My usual experience of that is in a stream of traffic doing 85 on the motorway (limit: 70mph, ignored everywhere where there is no enforcement), suddenly slowing to 70.

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                          Yeah if the limit was 70 that is dumb. My usual experience of that is in a stream of traffic doing 85 on the motorway (limit: 70mph, ignored everywhere where there is no enforcement), suddenly slowing to 70.

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                          Drivers here are so freaking paranoid and/or stupid. There's a new-ish law that if you see an emergency vehicle ulled over on the shoulder (cop, ambulance, fire, whatever), you need to move over to the far lane or slow down. A perfectly sensible rule. So what do they do? The move over to the far lane AND slow down. (Don't think it's rubber-necking. Never noticed them slowing down for a look-see before this went into effect. Hard to see from the driver's seat. Though they all do slow down and gawk if the accident or whatever is on the opposing side.)

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                          • S Slacker007

                            Drive 40 MPH on a highway going 70 and let's see how rare it is.

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                            jschell
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                            Then it would follow that from your OP that all of those people are getting tickets.

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                            • A AspDotNetDev

                              That's not the same thing. I'm pretty sure that if everybody else is speeding and I'm going the speed limit, I cannot be given a ticket. And if I'm speeding at the same speed everybody else is speeding (whether it is 5MPH over the limit or 30MPH over the limit), I can be given a ticket. Regardless of actual safety, I believe this is the law.

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                              jschell
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                              AspDotNetDev wrote:

                              That's not the same thing. I'm pretty sure that if everybody else is speeding and I'm going the speed limit, I cannot be given a ticket.

                              Presuming that you got a ticket at all it wouldn't be for going the speed limit. Rather it would be along the lines of impeding traffic or not using a passing lane for passing (which is how some deem the far left lane.)

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