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I have just received an email from some guy in Russia. He said he'd seen my code at sources.ru and could I help him out. Being UK based and not speaking russion I was a little surprised and asked him for the URL. He duly replied with the following URL: http://www.sources.ru/cpp/cpp_get_user_names.shtml As you can see, there is a replica, mostly in Russian, of an article that I recently posted here. Presumably, whoever runs the site has just picked it up from the CodeProject, but no-one asked me if they could put it anywhere else. I don't mind people using my code, that's why it's posted at CP, but I chose to post it at CP, not anywhere else. Presumably there are other articles posted there too? Any suggestions as to what I should/can do?
Derek, Of course they had to ask for your permission before posting translation of your article on their site. I think their guess was - if the code is posted on CP, it is free and intended for use by everybody so it would be ok if they re-post it. I think if you e-mail to webmaster of the site it would be enough for excluding such things in the future. I could help with the translation if needed. Best regards, Yuri
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I have just received an email from some guy in Russia. He said he'd seen my code at sources.ru and could I help him out. Being UK based and not speaking russion I was a little surprised and asked him for the URL. He duly replied with the following URL: http://www.sources.ru/cpp/cpp_get_user_names.shtml As you can see, there is a replica, mostly in Russian, of an article that I recently posted here. Presumably, whoever runs the site has just picked it up from the CodeProject, but no-one asked me if they could put it anywhere else. I don't mind people using my code, that's why it's posted at CP, but I chose to post it at CP, not anywhere else. Presumably there are other articles posted there too? Any suggestions as to what I should/can do?
Well, I am not a lawyer, but it looks like a translation and probably it is perfectly legal for them to translate anything. It seems that you didn't bother to license your code - so there you go. But probably complaining to the webmaster would solve the problem to your liking...
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I have just received an email from some guy in Russia. He said he'd seen my code at sources.ru and could I help him out. Being UK based and not speaking russion I was a little surprised and asked him for the URL. He duly replied with the following URL: http://www.sources.ru/cpp/cpp_get_user_names.shtml As you can see, there is a replica, mostly in Russian, of an article that I recently posted here. Presumably, whoever runs the site has just picked it up from the CodeProject, but no-one asked me if they could put it anywhere else. I don't mind people using my code, that's why it's posted at CP, but I chose to post it at CP, not anywhere else. Presumably there are other articles posted there too? Any suggestions as to what I should/can do?
yep. i can see tons of CP articles on that site - Chris M's grid control, people's additions to it, the ButtonST stuff, etc. ------------------------------ Smaller Animals Software, Inc. http://www.smalleranimals.com
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Well, I am not a lawyer, but it looks like a translation and probably it is perfectly legal for them to translate anything. It seems that you didn't bother to license your code - so there you go. But probably complaining to the webmaster would solve the problem to your liking...
I'm not a lawyer either, but I don't you are correct. Nothing need be done for a copyright to apply here (every post to the internet is automatically copyrighted, including e-mails). I believe wholesale copying of the article would be a violation of the copyright, even if it were a translation. That said, there's likely not much you can do beyond ask them to remove it. Fighting something like this in court where the original is "free" is not likely to bring you much satisfaction. William E. Kempf
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Well, I am not a lawyer, but it looks like a translation and probably it is perfectly legal for them to translate anything. It seems that you didn't bother to license your code - so there you go. But probably complaining to the webmaster would solve the problem to your liking...
it is perfectly illegal (in the US) to create a derivative work without the author's permission. copyright is implied by the simple act of writing something - you don't have to register it anywhere. -c ------------------------------ Smaller Animals Software, Inc. http://www.smalleranimals.com
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I have just received an email from some guy in Russia. He said he'd seen my code at sources.ru and could I help him out. Being UK based and not speaking russion I was a little surprised and asked him for the URL. He duly replied with the following URL: http://www.sources.ru/cpp/cpp_get_user_names.shtml As you can see, there is a replica, mostly in Russian, of an article that I recently posted here. Presumably, whoever runs the site has just picked it up from the CodeProject, but no-one asked me if they could put it anywhere else. I don't mind people using my code, that's why it's posted at CP, but I chose to post it at CP, not anywhere else. Presumably there are other articles posted there too? Any suggestions as to what I should/can do?
I'm not trying to defend them, but it looks like they did not mean to pretend it was their code. They specified that code was written by "Derek Lakin" and even gave your e-mail address. So this is just a translation. The bad thing is that CP was not mentioned (and of course everything was done without permission). But if you come to Russia, you will easily find a lot of places where you can buy Visual Studio 6.0 Enterprise for 10 bucks, so after that translating your article will look pretty innocent :-D Win32/ATL/MFC Developer Oslo, Norway
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it is perfectly illegal (in the US) to create a derivative work without the author's permission. copyright is implied by the simple act of writing something - you don't have to register it anywhere. -c ------------------------------ Smaller Animals Software, Inc. http://www.smalleranimals.com
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I have just received an email from some guy in Russia. He said he'd seen my code at sources.ru and could I help him out. Being UK based and not speaking russion I was a little surprised and asked him for the URL. He duly replied with the following URL: http://www.sources.ru/cpp/cpp_get_user_names.shtml As you can see, there is a replica, mostly in Russian, of an article that I recently posted here. Presumably, whoever runs the site has just picked it up from the CodeProject, but no-one asked me if they could put it anywhere else. I don't mind people using my code, that's why it's posted at CP, but I chose to post it at CP, not anywhere else. Presumably there are other articles posted there too? Any suggestions as to what I should/can do?
Hmmm. I've emailed the site asking them to contact authors before posting material. cheers, Chris Maunder
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Hmmm. I've emailed the site asking them to contact authors before posting material. cheers, Chris Maunder
Thanks Chris. I was about to do the same thing myself, but I think I'll leave it in your capable hands ;) I don't think any of us object to our ideas, code or articles being spread far and wide, that's what we're after in the first: to help other developers. But it would be nice if they asked first.
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What makes me unsure is: 1. Translation is not exactly same as coping. 2. Copyright is not violated - they kept the code intact and they mentioned the original author on top of the translation. 3. Site is in Russia - they don't have to follow US rules.
i agree. but #3 is your most compelling point, by far. -c ------------------------------ Smaller Animals Software, Inc. http://www.smalleranimals.com
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I have just received an email from some guy in Russia. He said he'd seen my code at sources.ru and could I help him out. Being UK based and not speaking russion I was a little surprised and asked him for the URL. He duly replied with the following URL: http://www.sources.ru/cpp/cpp_get_user_names.shtml As you can see, there is a replica, mostly in Russian, of an article that I recently posted here. Presumably, whoever runs the site has just picked it up from the CodeProject, but no-one asked me if they could put it anywhere else. I don't mind people using my code, that's why it's posted at CP, but I chose to post it at CP, not anywhere else. Presumably there are other articles posted there too? Any suggestions as to what I should/can do?
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I have just received an email from some guy in Russia. He said he'd seen my code at sources.ru and could I help him out. Being UK based and not speaking russion I was a little surprised and asked him for the URL. He duly replied with the following URL: http://www.sources.ru/cpp/cpp_get_user_names.shtml As you can see, there is a replica, mostly in Russian, of an article that I recently posted here. Presumably, whoever runs the site has just picked it up from the CodeProject, but no-one asked me if they could put it anywhere else. I don't mind people using my code, that's why it's posted at CP, but I chose to post it at CP, not anywhere else. Presumably there are other articles posted there too? Any suggestions as to what I should/can do?
Wow, while it would have been nice to have been asked first i'd be really proud that something I contributed would be valued so much as to be distributed so widely. Thanks to the work of some keen tranlater our Russian friends can now benefit from the value of the material at the Code Project site. Cool. :-D
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Hmmm. I've emailed the site asking them to contact authors before posting material. cheers, Chris Maunder
chris, whats the meaning of 'new' inside rectangle
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Hmmm. I've emailed the site asking them to contact authors before posting material. cheers, Chris Maunder
Hmmm... I wonder if we're not overlooking a resource here - I wouldn't mind checking out a trnslation of that SNMP article they've got there...
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What makes me unsure is: 1. Translation is not exactly same as coping. 2. Copyright is not violated - they kept the code intact and they mentioned the original author on top of the translation. 3. Site is in Russia - they don't have to follow US rules.