Netflix causes Internet to reboot
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To read all the hype, anger and general commotion the past few days over Netflix's price increase you'd think they were pricing themselves out of the market or otherwise forcing financial hardships on the faithful. Many of the headlines and blog posts all scream the same thing. Netflix raises prices by 60%! Deified bovine. You'd think the net was going to explode from all the noise. I cut the cable last year, going from a $120 all you can eat plan to a Netflix subscription. Mind you, I don't have the cheapest plan. I pay extra to have 2 DVDs out at a time since some stuff you can't stream (a problem I lay at the feet of the morons in the entertainment industry who still haven't figured out this newfangled Internet thing, not Netflix's fault). Sure enough, I got an email this week from Netflix announcing price increases for my plan effective September 1st. My monthly bill is increasing from $15 to $20. Yep. That's what the mass hysteria is about. 5 bucks. Roughly a gallon of gas. I don't understand humanity, but they sure are fun to watch as they run around tearing their collective hair out over these earth shaking catastrophes. :)
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer Watch Bad Programmer! - Premieres May, 2011
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I have no idea what people are bitching about, things change in price over time. It's a fair amount to pay given the greatness of the service. What a bunch of whiney ass first world assholes we have become: Oh no, I have to skip Starbucks one day to cover it. Oh no, my fatass will have to forgo the second bacon cheese melt I planned on ordering! Children die elsewhere from diseases that our continent hasn't seen in years, but no, I need to watch 30-Rock streaming, and get the first season of Martin on DVD in the mail, how dare they raise the price to use this necessity! Even if you make minimum wage, that's like .65 more hours you are working per month for the ability to watch anything you want! I can watch thousands of movies or tv episodes, instantly, from my fucking bed! This is the future we've been waiting for. Remember going to the video store to choose from their shitty selection, the gas you would spend to get there, the waiting in line. Oh, move on to redbox? Yeah, if your time is worth nothing and your car runs on good intentions.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
Well you have folks who complain that they spent 3 hours making an online photo album through a free slickdeals link and then had to cancel the order because they did not know there'd be a 3.99 shipping fee. :rolleyes:
Regards, Nish
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I have no idea what people are bitching about, things change in price over time. It's a fair amount to pay given the greatness of the service. What a bunch of whiney ass first world assholes we have become: Oh no, I have to skip Starbucks one day to cover it. Oh no, my fatass will have to forgo the second bacon cheese melt I planned on ordering! Children die elsewhere from diseases that our continent hasn't seen in years, but no, I need to watch 30-Rock streaming, and get the first season of Martin on DVD in the mail, how dare they raise the price to use this necessity! Even if you make minimum wage, that's like .65 more hours you are working per month for the ability to watch anything you want! I can watch thousands of movies or tv episodes, instantly, from my fucking bed! This is the future we've been waiting for. Remember going to the video store to choose from their shitty selection, the gas you would spend to get there, the waiting in line. Oh, move on to redbox? Yeah, if your time is worth nothing and your car runs on good intentions.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
Redbox has movies sometimes two weeks before NetFlix.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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Well you have folks who complain that they spent 3 hours making an online photo album through a free slickdeals link and then had to cancel the order because they did not know there'd be a 3.99 shipping fee. :rolleyes:
Regards, Nish
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Yeah, Nish. We got your complaint, and you really need to manage your time better.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
:laugh:
Regards, Nish
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Redbox has movies sometimes two weeks before NetFlix.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997I quickly went through their website but they do not mention their pricing model anywhere. Do you know what they charge per month, or per DVD?
Regards, Nish
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Redbox has movies sometimes two weeks before NetFlix.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997If I already waited until the movie was no longer in theaters, I can wait 2 more weeks to rent it. Redbox ends up costing you more anyways. You must race home from work to not get a late fee and by me there are fucking lines to use the device, even to just return a movie. Add on the round-trip time, twice, and the time waiting in line and the gas used to get there, it costs more. It also freezes in the winter (they keep them outdoors here). No, I don't work for Netflix, but I basically live by it. I hate most network TV here, and use it to find good shit to watch. Netflix is easily 80% of my TV viewing.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
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Redbox has movies sometimes two weeks before NetFlix.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997Never mind, seems it's $1.00 per movie per day for most movies.
Regards, Nish
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I quickly went through their website but they do not mention their pricing model anywhere. Do you know what they charge per month, or per DVD?
Regards, Nish
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$1 per night per dvd. I think games are $2
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
Yeah, that per-night clause is what makes it not so good.
Regards, Nish
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To read all the hype, anger and general commotion the past few days over Netflix's price increase you'd think they were pricing themselves out of the market or otherwise forcing financial hardships on the faithful. Many of the headlines and blog posts all scream the same thing. Netflix raises prices by 60%! Deified bovine. You'd think the net was going to explode from all the noise. I cut the cable last year, going from a $120 all you can eat plan to a Netflix subscription. Mind you, I don't have the cheapest plan. I pay extra to have 2 DVDs out at a time since some stuff you can't stream (a problem I lay at the feet of the morons in the entertainment industry who still haven't figured out this newfangled Internet thing, not Netflix's fault). Sure enough, I got an email this week from Netflix announcing price increases for my plan effective September 1st. My monthly bill is increasing from $15 to $20. Yep. That's what the mass hysteria is about. 5 bucks. Roughly a gallon of gas. I don't understand humanity, but they sure are fun to watch as they run around tearing their collective hair out over these earth shaking catastrophes. :)
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer Watch Bad Programmer! - Premieres May, 2011
Let's see; Netflix += $5; Rent += $20; Gas += .50/gal. Food += $20/week etc. Paycheck = pitiful; if (continue) cant_afford_to_die();
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So if you don't have any live TV at all, how do you watch sport/news?
Regards, Nish
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
...how do you watch sport/news?
Some folks don't, myself included. If I want sport, I'll go out back and shoot it. If I want news, I'll make it. Either way, at least I'll know it to be factual and not biased or influenced.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
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To read all the hype, anger and general commotion the past few days over Netflix's price increase you'd think they were pricing themselves out of the market or otherwise forcing financial hardships on the faithful. Many of the headlines and blog posts all scream the same thing. Netflix raises prices by 60%! Deified bovine. You'd think the net was going to explode from all the noise. I cut the cable last year, going from a $120 all you can eat plan to a Netflix subscription. Mind you, I don't have the cheapest plan. I pay extra to have 2 DVDs out at a time since some stuff you can't stream (a problem I lay at the feet of the morons in the entertainment industry who still haven't figured out this newfangled Internet thing, not Netflix's fault). Sure enough, I got an email this week from Netflix announcing price increases for my plan effective September 1st. My monthly bill is increasing from $15 to $20. Yep. That's what the mass hysteria is about. 5 bucks. Roughly a gallon of gas. I don't understand humanity, but they sure are fun to watch as they run around tearing their collective hair out over these earth shaking catastrophes. :)
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer Watch Bad Programmer! - Premieres May, 2011
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To read all the hype, anger and general commotion the past few days over Netflix's price increase you'd think they were pricing themselves out of the market or otherwise forcing financial hardships on the faithful. Many of the headlines and blog posts all scream the same thing. Netflix raises prices by 60%! Deified bovine. You'd think the net was going to explode from all the noise. I cut the cable last year, going from a $120 all you can eat plan to a Netflix subscription. Mind you, I don't have the cheapest plan. I pay extra to have 2 DVDs out at a time since some stuff you can't stream (a problem I lay at the feet of the morons in the entertainment industry who still haven't figured out this newfangled Internet thing, not Netflix's fault). Sure enough, I got an email this week from Netflix announcing price increases for my plan effective September 1st. My monthly bill is increasing from $15 to $20. Yep. That's what the mass hysteria is about. 5 bucks. Roughly a gallon of gas. I don't understand humanity, but they sure are fun to watch as they run around tearing their collective hair out over these earth shaking catastrophes. :)
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer Watch Bad Programmer! - Premieres May, 2011
It's not that they increased prices... It's that they did it twice in one year, and almost doubled it for some people ($8 to $15, I think, for the one-at-a-time people). And all that while their inventory of streaming titles is going down instead of up, because of studio deals starting to expire. Sure, a few bucks a month isn't a big deal, but if I'm paying more, I expect to get more, not less. It's just cost/benefit analysis at work. So I reduced my subscription when I got the notification.
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It's not that they increased prices... It's that they did it twice in one year, and almost doubled it for some people ($8 to $15, I think, for the one-at-a-time people). And all that while their inventory of streaming titles is going down instead of up, because of studio deals starting to expire. Sure, a few bucks a month isn't a big deal, but if I'm paying more, I expect to get more, not less. It's just cost/benefit analysis at work. So I reduced my subscription when I got the notification.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)I think probably the biggest thing is that, like so many web oriented businesses, they were really underpriced to begin with. I think for what I get, 20 bucks a month is a good deal, and I would have signed up for it had that been the price in the beginning. So, like you said, cost / benefit, but with perception playing a large role in the process. As much of a PR screwup on their part as anything else.
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer Watch Bad Programmer! - Premieres May, 2011
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I think probably the biggest thing is that, like so many web oriented businesses, they were really underpriced to begin with. I think for what I get, 20 bucks a month is a good deal, and I would have signed up for it had that been the price in the beginning. So, like you said, cost / benefit, but with perception playing a large role in the process. As much of a PR screwup on their part as anything else.
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer Watch Bad Programmer! - Premieres May, 2011
True, but what's done is done. Now people EXPECT to pay less than $10 a month for streaming... If not with Netflix, then with Amazon or Hulu.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels) -
True, but what's done is done. Now people EXPECT to pay less than $10 a month for streaming... If not with Netflix, then with Amazon or Hulu.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)Hulu's the one I don't get. I'm okay with advertising supported media. I grew up with three TV stations and that's how it worked. I got TV for free in exchange for commercials. However, when cable came out, the idea was you could pay a monthly fee to watch stuff without commercials. With Hulu, if you sign up for a paid plan, you still get commercials. If I get commercials, I expect free.
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer Watch Bad Programmer! - Premieres May, 2011
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To read all the hype, anger and general commotion the past few days over Netflix's price increase you'd think they were pricing themselves out of the market or otherwise forcing financial hardships on the faithful. Many of the headlines and blog posts all scream the same thing. Netflix raises prices by 60%! Deified bovine. You'd think the net was going to explode from all the noise. I cut the cable last year, going from a $120 all you can eat plan to a Netflix subscription. Mind you, I don't have the cheapest plan. I pay extra to have 2 DVDs out at a time since some stuff you can't stream (a problem I lay at the feet of the morons in the entertainment industry who still haven't figured out this newfangled Internet thing, not Netflix's fault). Sure enough, I got an email this week from Netflix announcing price increases for my plan effective September 1st. My monthly bill is increasing from $15 to $20. Yep. That's what the mass hysteria is about. 5 bucks. Roughly a gallon of gas. I don't understand humanity, but they sure are fun to watch as they run around tearing their collective hair out over these earth shaking catastrophes. :)
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer Watch Bad Programmer! - Premieres May, 2011
It's not about the money, I can afford the extra $6, it's about the percentage jump. I'm getting the same exact service I was getting before, only now it costs 60% more. I understand prices go up, but they don't go up that sharply very frequently. It's not like I'm paying my rent and then I get a notice that my rent is going up 60% in 2 months. I will be exploring other options, but will likely end up staying with Netflix through this price increase, but I will not be sticking around if there is another large jump in price with the next few years.
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It's not about the money, I can afford the extra $6, it's about the percentage jump. I'm getting the same exact service I was getting before, only now it costs 60% more. I understand prices go up, but they don't go up that sharply very frequently. It's not like I'm paying my rent and then I get a notice that my rent is going up 60% in 2 months. I will be exploring other options, but will likely end up staying with Netflix through this price increase, but I will not be sticking around if there is another large jump in price with the next few years.
I see this more as an adjustment of their overall pricing model rather than a price increase. I don't think it was realistic for them to bundle the DVD and streaming stuff together. Sure, as a consumer I enjoyed it, but if they don't have a sustainable model then they'll ultimately go out of business (Blockbuster comes to mind). And tht means I'd lose a service that I currently enjoy.
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer Watch Bad Programmer! - Premieres May, 2011