From Zenith to Nadir
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We can still get into space, and with this[^] news it looks like it might not be too long before the US is launching astronauts again.
Dalek Dave wrote:
We should have manned permanent moon-bases, missions to Mars, be working on hyperspace engines and Warp Drive, and all the other things we were promised.
And where's my jetpack, damnit!
I couldn't help but notice that the article you linked to persistently referred to them as 'nauts. Is that intended to reflect their number now that the final shuttle has been retired?
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I couldn't help but notice that the article you linked to persistently referred to them as 'nauts. Is that intended to reflect their number now that the final shuttle has been retired?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
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The last shuttle will be landing in a few hours. As it does so, America says goodbye to manned space flight for the foreseeable future. NASA becomes a little bit smaller and less important. And we all, as a species, are diminished. The irony is that today, on the Nadir of American Manned Space Flight, is the anniversary of it's Zenith. 42 years ago today, Louis Armstrong and Buzz Lightyear opened the capsule door and went for a walk. Today really is one giant leap backwards. I am saddened. We should have manned permanent moon-bases, missions to Mars, be working on hyperspace engines and Warp Drive, and all the other things we were promised.
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The last shuttle will be landing in a few hours. As it does so, America says goodbye to manned space flight for the foreseeable future. NASA becomes a little bit smaller and less important. And we all, as a species, are diminished. The irony is that today, on the Nadir of American Manned Space Flight, is the anniversary of it's Zenith. 42 years ago today, Louis Armstrong and Buzz Lightyear opened the capsule door and went for a walk. Today really is one giant leap backwards. I am saddened. We should have manned permanent moon-bases, missions to Mars, be working on hyperspace engines and Warp Drive, and all the other things we were promised.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]
It's our own damned fault. People like William Proxmire[^] should have been publicly executed as traitors to their species.
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We can still get into space, and with this[^] news it looks like it might not be too long before the US is launching astronauts again.
Dalek Dave wrote:
We should have manned permanent moon-bases, missions to Mars, be working on hyperspace engines and Warp Drive, and all the other things we were promised.
And where's my jetpack, damnit!
Don't hold your breath on that or any of the other manned commercial launch companies. All the ISS partners have a veto on any new craft docking with the station, and the Russians are counting on flying US Astronauts to finance their program; guess what the odds of them OKing anything else to dock are.
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It's our own damned fault. People like William Proxmire[^] should have been publicly executed as traitors to their species.
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Yup. If the dirtbag would've followed through with his time machine project we'd be so much farther ahead today. :laugh:
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I want a manned rescue mission[^].
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I am FOR private companies doing launches, competition will bring prices down and drive technology. However, I still mourn the loss of NASA having a manned program. The two are compatible.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]
Amen, brother.
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We can still get into space, and with this[^] news it looks like it might not be too long before the US is launching astronauts again.
Dalek Dave wrote:
We should have manned permanent moon-bases, missions to Mars, be working on hyperspace engines and Warp Drive, and all the other things we were promised.
And where's my jetpack, damnit!
viaducting wrote:
it looks like it might not be too long before the US is launching astronauts again.
Spam in a can. It went out of fashion in the 70's. That's a cost-cutting measure dreamed up by the idiot they affirmative-actioned into the top spot at NASA.
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Agreed, but they are privateers doing it for commercial gain, not a nation state with a vested interest in science.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]
Dalek Dave wrote:
Agreed, but they are privateers doing it for commercial gain, not a nation state with a vested interest in science.
And what they are doing is reinventing what was done thirty years ago. If they succeed, that's great, but NASA was supposed to be blazing the trail, as you said.
The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.
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The last shuttle will be landing in a few hours. As it does so, America says goodbye to manned space flight for the foreseeable future. NASA becomes a little bit smaller and less important. And we all, as a species, are diminished. The irony is that today, on the Nadir of American Manned Space Flight, is the anniversary of it's Zenith. 42 years ago today, Louis Armstrong and Buzz Lightyear opened the capsule door and went for a walk. Today really is one giant leap backwards. I am saddened. We should have manned permanent moon-bases, missions to Mars, be working on hyperspace engines and Warp Drive, and all the other things we were promised.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]
Dalek Dave wrote:
42 years ago today, Louis Armstrong and Buzz Lightyear opened the capsule door
Nice Story. :)
Martin Fowler wrote:
Any fool can write code that a computer can understand. Good programmers write code that humans can understand.
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He's on about $8 an hour. :laugh:
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Dalek Dave wrote:
WTF are you on about?
You were complaining (tongue-in-cheek) about about not getting the "manned permanent moon-bases, missions to Mars, be working on hyperspace engines and Warp Drive" that you had been 'promised'. Hence my comment (also tongue-in-cheek) about your being a whining member of the 'Entitlement Society'. (If you've been promised something, do you not feel a sense of entitlement to it?)
The 1-legged bar stool of understanding is supported by booze. Equipped with that, I know everything, and the rest of you are just a bunch of ignorant peasants with dung on your boots. A R G H
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Dalek Dave wrote:
42 years ago today, Louis Armstrong and Buzz Lightyear opened the capsule door
Nice Story. :)
Martin Fowler wrote:
Any fool can write code that a computer can understand. Good programmers write code that humans can understand.
The funniest thing about this is that before you posted, my brain had just inserted the correct names into his original post as I was reading it. Good catch!
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It's our own damned fault. People like William Proxmire[^] should have been publicly executed as traitors to their species.
Software Zen:
delete this;Gary Wheeler wrote:
People like William Proxmire[^] should have been publicly executed as traitors to their species.
The current Democratic administration that gutted the shuttle replacement program should be included. As the USA cuts its funding of applied science, it has destroyed its future in commercial innovation. People focus on the cost of space exploration, but forget the spin outs that have come from NASA - microcomputers, microwave communication networks, satellite TV, Teflon,velcro, Hubble, etc. NASA invented some things, but more often moved creative ideas to the point of commercial application by funding the R&D needed. Although it was no longer a leading edge computer by the time I got to touch it, the first mainframe I used for flight simultion at Boeing (Back in the day!) had been partly funded by NASA because it was too expensive for even a Boeing to purchase. A new level of aircraft design and pre-flight testing was enabled using that computer. It was used to evaluate the suitability of the 747 flight characteristics while carrying the Shuttle (good) and the external tank (not acceptable). Instead of using space and science to build new industries we are funding massive welfare and illegal aliens. Which will only produce more welfare and more illegal aliens. Now if we could find an export market for them.......
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The last shuttle will be landing in a few hours. As it does so, America says goodbye to manned space flight for the foreseeable future. NASA becomes a little bit smaller and less important. And we all, as a species, are diminished. The irony is that today, on the Nadir of American Manned Space Flight, is the anniversary of it's Zenith. 42 years ago today, Louis Armstrong and Buzz Lightyear opened the capsule door and went for a walk. Today really is one giant leap backwards. I am saddened. We should have manned permanent moon-bases, missions to Mars, be working on hyperspace engines and Warp Drive, and all the other things we were promised.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]
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The last shuttle will be landing in a few hours. As it does so, America says goodbye to manned space flight for the foreseeable future. NASA becomes a little bit smaller and less important. And we all, as a species, are diminished. The irony is that today, on the Nadir of American Manned Space Flight, is the anniversary of it's Zenith. 42 years ago today, Louis Armstrong and Buzz Lightyear opened the capsule door and went for a walk. Today really is one giant leap backwards. I am saddened. We should have manned permanent moon-bases, missions to Mars, be working on hyperspace engines and Warp Drive, and all the other things we were promised.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]
The triumph of the shuttle program is that it is ending. While whole nations like China struggle to get a man into space, and posers like Iran and North Korea look enviously on, the culture and knowledge of space flight is so ingrained and widely disseminated in the United States, that commercial ventures are ready to take it on for profit. For all its techie beauty, the shuttle was a ridiculously complicated, fatally unreliable, monstrously expensive project, that blew through its original cost estimates and vastly underperformed its promises. It was everything you'd expect in a cost-plus government program. The shuttle is your grandfather's spaceship, the last design of Werner von Braun. Let it go. I love NASA, and hope they get to work on that Mars mission ASAP because I want to have seen men land both on the moon and on Mars before I die. But I'm happy (sort-of) that the shuttle project is winding down, and we're handing LEO over to commercial ventures. Been there. Done that. Got the space suit. It means we didn't just win the space race, we totally nailed it. U-S-A! U-S-A! ...
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Dalek Dave wrote:
I am saddened. We should have manned permanent moon-bases, missions to Mars, be working on hyperspace engines and Warp Drive, and all the other things we were promised.
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The last shuttle will be landing in a few hours. As it does so, America says goodbye to manned space flight for the foreseeable future. NASA becomes a little bit smaller and less important. And we all, as a species, are diminished. The irony is that today, on the Nadir of American Manned Space Flight, is the anniversary of it's Zenith. 42 years ago today, Louis Armstrong and Buzz Lightyear opened the capsule door and went for a walk. Today really is one giant leap backwards. I am saddened. We should have manned permanent moon-bases, missions to Mars, be working on hyperspace engines and Warp Drive, and all the other things we were promised.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]
> 42 years ago today, Louis Armstrong and Buzz Lightyear opened the capsule door and went for a walk. Nobody commented on the obvious satire here of getting Neil Armstrong's and Buzz Aldrin's names mixed up with a jazz musician and a ficticious cartoon character :)
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The last shuttle will be landing in a few hours. As it does so, America says goodbye to manned space flight for the foreseeable future. NASA becomes a little bit smaller and less important. And we all, as a species, are diminished. The irony is that today, on the Nadir of American Manned Space Flight, is the anniversary of it's Zenith. 42 years ago today, Louis Armstrong and Buzz Lightyear opened the capsule door and went for a walk. Today really is one giant leap backwards. I am saddened. We should have manned permanent moon-bases, missions to Mars, be working on hyperspace engines and Warp Drive, and all the other things we were promised.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]
Neil Armstrong, and Buzz Aldrin. Yes, it's truly sad. I have always been a fan of space travel :sigh:.