MS Dos is 30
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O/S 2 Warp - I still have that loaded on my wife's PC. THAT was a real O.S., before Win 95. Had it running 7/24/365 for years on 30+ machines (386, 486SX, and finally blazingly fast 486-66), never rebooting except when the cleaning people pulled the power. Got to dump the CP/M, dual floppy in a wooden box (Zenith I think) PC for software development when DOS came out. The C IDE interface was simple, looked something like this,
c:\
and it fit on a floppy:
Gary
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God I am getting old, who remembers spending hours getting programs to run in extended memory?
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
I do, damn it!
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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God I am getting old, who remembers spending hours getting programs to run in extended memory?
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
I started out on CP/M[^] before moving onto IBM PC's; remember it was IBM compatible not MS or Intel. I was talking to Eldest last night about computers and she asked how many I had had. Bought myself, only 11 I could remember, but double that for work machines. At one point I had a Psion 5[^] which was synced with my Libretto 100[^]. That was connected to my desktop in the office. I had tow servers, one for development/testing and one for linking into the London office. Add to this a cash box for testing teller cash dispenser software and small test ATM. That, my friends, was cubical heaven.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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God I am getting old, who remembers spending hours getting programs to run in extended memory?
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
I started off with Good old Win 98 SE but then again I used to be awed at my friend's Intel 486 with DOS.
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I started out on CP/M[^] before moving onto IBM PC's; remember it was IBM compatible not MS or Intel. I was talking to Eldest last night about computers and she asked how many I had had. Bought myself, only 11 I could remember, but double that for work machines. At one point I had a Psion 5[^] which was synced with my Libretto 100[^]. That was connected to my desktop in the office. I had tow servers, one for development/testing and one for linking into the London office. Add to this a cash box for testing teller cash dispenser software and small test ATM. That, my friends, was cubical heaven.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
Nagy Vilmos wrote:
. Me too!
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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God I am getting old, who remembers spending hours getting programs to run in extended memory?
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
I still use DOS :)
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God I am getting old, who remembers spending hours getting programs to run in extended memory?
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
Or waiting for the new version to come out to see what new goodies lied there in.
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Or waiting for the new version to come out to see what new goodies lied there in.
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Mike Hankey wrote:
Or waiting for the new version to come out to see what new goodies lied there in.
oh there was a lot of that going on iirc still i remember getting a copy of MSDOS 6 oh how green were those forced to have 6.2 with its inferior disk compression (smerk)
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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Mike Hankey wrote:
Or waiting for the new version to come out to see what new goodies lied there in.
oh there was a lot of that going on iirc still i remember getting a copy of MSDOS 6 oh how green were those forced to have 6.2 with its inferior disk compression (smerk)
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
And with every version you got a manual...printed on real paper that was actually helpful. That was the last form of help that was actually worth a s**t.
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God I am getting old, who remembers spending hours getting programs to run in extended memory?
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
I think I spent about 6 hours on it total over the half dozen years i had my 486. 2 or 3 finding a clue before setting up all the choices I needed on a boot menu; then it was just a case of IDing the programs that wouldn't run in my standard config and if they needed me to boot EMS, XMS, or max under 640k modes.
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God I am getting old, who remembers spending hours getting programs to run in extended memory?
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
Bergholt Stuttley Johnson wrote:
who remembers spending hours getting programs to run in extended memory?
Didn't touch MSDOS or an IBM PC platform computer until 1990, and it was because of job requirements. Barely 14 years old I got my CLI computing teeth roughly set with Radio Shack's TRS-DOS then somewhat honed when TRS-DOS 6 came out. In the mid 80s I picked up on OS9 Level 1 and by the time the Color Computer 3 came out and Tandy offered OS9 Level 2 for it I had already sold my soul to the Devil :cool: and things were good. Starting with MSDOS 3.3 (company I worked for skipped the 4.x upgrade) I felt constrained to no end by the limitations of its single task single user environment, found it unforgivable to have all that hardware power go to waste with MSDOS - so many support hours spent on it until QEMM came along and sort of made MSDOS feel like a real OS :-\ . It all only kept me going back to OS9 and eventually Linux (Red Hat 2). Funny thing that just last week I pranked a co-worker telling him his news stories were now supposed to be entered using the latest craze on text editors: EDLIN :laugh: -- RP
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I started off with Good old Win 98 SE but then again I used to be awed at my friend's Intel 486 with DOS.
My Blog My Achievements: * Posted 25,000th message in GIT O_O * Official supporter of the "thatraja's GIT Meet Sponsor Foundation" :D What you do, when you don't know what to do is what you do when you don't want to do what you do.
Well now I don't feel so bad about having started on Windows 95. My family had an older one too I think, because I had at least one game on a 5 1/4 in floppy, and I don't think the 95 had a 5 1/4 in drive. I may be wrong though, that was a long time ago.
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God I am getting old, who remembers spending hours getting programs to run in extended memory?
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
I'm younger than MS-DOS is but I still remember as a young child spending hours every time I was brought a new game getting the thing to run. Extended/Expanded, himem, and then along came things like privateer and x-wing that wanted 600k of more of memory to run (I became a master of the autoexec.bat). I actually kind of miss it in a strange way, when you finally got them to run, it made those title sequences all the more rewarding. Anybody use GEM & Xtree?
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God I am getting old, who remembers spending hours getting programs to run in extended memory?
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
My final MS-DOS applications ran in protected mode, using the same DOS extender as the game DOOM[^]. These apps implemented bimodal interrupt handling (interrupt services in both real and protected mode to avoid mode switching), ran under both MS-DOS and DOS/V (a Japanese version of MS-DOS), and communicated with three of our commercial ink-jet printers via parallel and serial ports simultaneously. We could ship several 100K of data per second to those printers on a very modest industrial PC with a 600MHz processor and only 8M of RAM. Interestingly, even though these applications haven't received any maintenance since 2001, we are finally end-of-life'ing only this year.
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God I am getting old, who remembers spending hours getting programs to run in extended memory?
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
I started out with DOS 6.22, DOS SHELL was amazing, F10 for the menus, the file manager with folders on the left files on the right. 20MB HD, then onto Windows 3.11. Spent hours (if not days) getting custom bat files in place to run Maxi, Microprose, and loads of other games via booting from a floppy. I've used every version of windows since (currently 7 on the desktop and 2008 r2 server running various vm's). I remember showing off to my friends by typing pointless commands like 'ver', creating pointless batch files with text via echo statements, then onto the magical world of C/C++ with menu based systems and Dos style windows. I feel ancient now, my phone (Windows Phone 7 HTC HD7) has a faster cpu, more space, better everything than the first pc I built in 1997 for £750ish which was a 486 133mhz, 4gb, 16mb ram power house!
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Got to say that the IBM was excellent. And very sturdy, especially the keyboard. We did the upgrade from twin floppies to a 20Mb hard drive. Wow! 20 whole megs! I was in Silicon Heaven. :)
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Can remember the first I worked with It had been upgraded to 640k RAM from its original 64k (i think), and to a 10Mb hard drive and dual 360k floppies from the original single 180k one - oh and up to CGA graphics - don't ask me what that was originally. Running at the huge speed of 4.7MHz It was also vastly outperformed by my BBC micro 32k ram and 1MHz processor on just about every point.
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God I am getting old, who remembers spending hours getting programs to run in extended memory?
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
You think your getting old? I remember in my first year of college loading instructions and data using 8 toggle switches! up hill, both ways! ;P
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Got to say that the IBM was excellent. And very sturdy, especially the keyboard. We did the upgrade from twin floppies to a 20Mb hard drive. Wow! 20 whole megs! I was in Silicon Heaven. :)
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]
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You think your getting old? I remember in my first year of college loading instructions and data using 8 toggle switches! up hill, both ways! ;P
Yep, punch cards (dropping your stack and having to reorder it all), punched paper tape (over a 300 baud phone modem on the ASR-33 teletype), Apple II DOS and 6502 machine language. Those were the days. Then came the infamous IBM PC with "dual floppies". My first 20mb drive was $400. Then the IBM AT came out and we could pop in faster crystals from Radio Shack to pump the clock. DOS was our world then.
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God I am getting old, who remembers spending hours getting programs to run in extended memory?
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
Bergholt Stuttley Johnson wrote:
God I am getting old, who remembers spending hours getting programs to run in extended memory?
I do. I was working for Quadram Corporation in Atlanta back then. I wrote Quadram's EMM (Extended Memory Management) "driver" for the PS/2 (remember those?) as well as the rest of the Quadmaster V suite for the QuadEMS+ I/O memory board. The suite included the memory management drivers (LIM, EMS, etc), print spoolers, RAM disks and the like. That was a fun job. I learned to write bootstrap loaders in assembly and then figured out how to get the boostrap to call the rest of the loaders which I wrote in Microsoft C. Loved it! My first "real" computer was my original 5150 with PC-DOS 1.1. I wrote a text editor in BASICA (which I eventually moved to the compiled BASIC). I still have that editor in an XP VM on here, it still runs! Won't run in the DOS Box for Win7, though. Oh well. Wish I still had the source code, I could probably fix that! :-) Heh ... I still have the 8088 chip I pulled out of that 5150. Replaced it with a NEC V-20 before my brother-in-law got the machine. He used that thing (with DOS 2.1 I think) for 3 or 4 more years after I was through with it! -Max :D
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