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Study proves what we've always known .. IE6 users are dumb.

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  • D David1987

    Source (warning: pdf)[^] (google viewer link[^]) The average IQ of IE6 users in 2011 was just a bit over 80, whereas Firefox is around 110 and Opera around 130. In case you're not familiar with the IQ scale, it's a bell graph scale where 100 is by definition the average, and the standard deviation is 15. 80 is officially[^] bad (dullness, or somewhere between mild mental retardation and dull-normal). So, are you still using IE6? :)

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    While I haven't used IE6 in years and the website I am working on tells IE6 users to upgrade or go away, reading their methodology, I noted that while their test subjects came from anywhere in the world, they make no mention of using any language but English in their testing. Since the vast majority of IE6 users live in non-English speaking countries[^], the test is, most likely, skewed. Someone who may be able to get by on the web in English is not necessarily likely to do well on a test that measures, in great part, verbal reasoning. :doh:

    The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.

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      While I haven't used IE6 in years and the website I am working on tells IE6 users to upgrade or go away, reading their methodology, I noted that while their test subjects came from anywhere in the world, they make no mention of using any language but English in their testing. Since the vast majority of IE6 users live in non-English speaking countries[^], the test is, most likely, skewed. Someone who may be able to get by on the web in English is not necessarily likely to do well on a test that measures, in great part, verbal reasoning. :doh:

      The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.

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      David1987
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      Odd because it also says "The test was offered only to visitors of a few English-speaking countries namely USA, Canada, UK, Australia and New Zealand."

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      • D David1987

        Odd because it also says "The test was offered only to visitors of a few English-speaking countries namely USA, Canada, UK, Australia and New Zealand."

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        David1987 wrote:

        Odd because it also says "The test was offered only to visitors of a few English-speaking countries namely USA, Canada, UK, Australia and New Zealand."

        Missed that :-O I'm surprised they found 500 users of IE6 in that case. Of course, using New Zealanders is just as bad as using the Chinese when it comes to understanding English.

        The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.

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        • D David1987

          Source (warning: pdf)[^] (google viewer link[^]) The average IQ of IE6 users in 2011 was just a bit over 80, whereas Firefox is around 110 and Opera around 130. In case you're not familiar with the IQ scale, it's a bell graph scale where 100 is by definition the average, and the standard deviation is 15. 80 is officially[^] bad (dullness, or somewhere between mild mental retardation and dull-normal). So, are you still using IE6? :)

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          AspDotNetDev
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          Conclusion: the more unusable the software, the more intelligent you need to be to figure it out. :rolleyes:

          Martin Fowler wrote:

          Any fool can write code that a computer can understand. Good programmers write code that humans can understand.

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          • D David1987

            Source (warning: pdf)[^] (google viewer link[^]) The average IQ of IE6 users in 2011 was just a bit over 80, whereas Firefox is around 110 and Opera around 130. In case you're not familiar with the IQ scale, it's a bell graph scale where 100 is by definition the average, and the standard deviation is 15. 80 is officially[^] bad (dullness, or somewhere between mild mental retardation and dull-normal). So, are you still using IE6? :)

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            Lost User
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            that I want to write a lengthy diatribe detailing its flaws that nobody will read or care about fortunately, today, tired wins. ...but it's a little weird to declare something as "statistically significant" and then conspicuously fail to disclose the size of the groups being tested or the statistical tests used ...and really? bar graphs without error bars? ...really? "faired a little better?" In a study about intelligence? why are you trying to hurt me

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              that I want to write a lengthy diatribe detailing its flaws that nobody will read or care about fortunately, today, tired wins. ...but it's a little weird to declare something as "statistically significant" and then conspicuously fail to disclose the size of the groups being tested or the statistical tests used ...and really? bar graphs without error bars? ...really? "faired a little better?" In a study about intelligence? why are you trying to hurt me

              - F

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              well said.

              The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.

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              • D David1987

                Source (warning: pdf)[^] (google viewer link[^]) The average IQ of IE6 users in 2011 was just a bit over 80, whereas Firefox is around 110 and Opera around 130. In case you're not familiar with the IQ scale, it's a bell graph scale where 100 is by definition the average, and the standard deviation is 15. 80 is officially[^] bad (dullness, or somewhere between mild mental retardation and dull-normal). So, are you still using IE6? :)

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                CS2011
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                David1987 wrote:

                The average IQ of IE6 users in 2011 was just a bit over 80,

                Some how i doubt that i think by mistake they have swap the IQ of IE6 developers with the users. :laugh:

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                  that I want to write a lengthy diatribe detailing its flaws that nobody will read or care about fortunately, today, tired wins. ...but it's a little weird to declare something as "statistically significant" and then conspicuously fail to disclose the size of the groups being tested or the statistical tests used ...and really? bar graphs without error bars? ...really? "faired a little better?" In a study about intelligence? why are you trying to hurt me

                  - F

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                  Well, for all its faults, the paper also mentions not being very scientific..

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                  • D David1987

                    Source (warning: pdf)[^] (google viewer link[^]) The average IQ of IE6 users in 2011 was just a bit over 80, whereas Firefox is around 110 and Opera around 130. In case you're not familiar with the IQ scale, it's a bell graph scale where 100 is by definition the average, and the standard deviation is 15. 80 is officially[^] bad (dullness, or somewhere between mild mental retardation and dull-normal). So, are you still using IE6? :)

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                    Well, I believe that the relationship between IQ and the browser is the other way round. It's not that IE users are dumb, but rather users with better IQ choose better browsers.

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                      that I want to write a lengthy diatribe detailing its flaws that nobody will read or care about fortunately, today, tired wins. ...but it's a little weird to declare something as "statistically significant" and then conspicuously fail to disclose the size of the groups being tested or the statistical tests used ...and really? bar graphs without error bars? ...really? "faired a little better?" In a study about intelligence? why are you trying to hurt me

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                      Off topic question: have you or will you be trained to perform abortions? Is it a medical procedure that's routinely taught?

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                        Off topic question: have you or will you be trained to perform abortions? Is it a medical procedure that's routinely taught?

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                        So the reasoning behind why abortion is legal and supported by the medical community is pretty thoroughly discussed in medical school, but typically only obstetrician/gynecologists are taught the actual drugs and procedures during their residency after medical school is over. Since I went into a medicine residency rather than ob/gyne, I'll never be taught how to or be licensed to manage medical/surgical abortions. Medical abortions are fairly easy to learn drug regimes and are usually easy to manage (if you can catch the pregnancy early enough to be eligible); and there are, apparently, several 'stages' of training that they use to prepare ob/gyne residents to be able to perform surgical abortions, which include frequent counseling, observation of the procedure, etc. Surgical abortions for fetuses >= about 20 weeks require special training as they are fairly risky procedures reserved almost exclusively for fetuses with genetic abnormalities incompatible with life. If I recall, there's only one gyne in Canada that will do abortions between 20-22 weeks, and there are less than a handful in the U.S. that will openly do 22-24. Abortions are one of those things where it's basically lousy that they exist, lousy for the people who have to have them, lousy for the people who have to do them, but society would be lousier and women would be worse off without access to them.

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                        • D David1987

                          Source (warning: pdf)[^] (google viewer link[^]) The average IQ of IE6 users in 2011 was just a bit over 80, whereas Firefox is around 110 and Opera around 130. In case you're not familiar with the IQ scale, it's a bell graph scale where 100 is by definition the average, and the standard deviation is 15. 80 is officially[^] bad (dullness, or somewhere between mild mental retardation and dull-normal). So, are you still using IE6? :)

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                          Actually the study proves what we have always known: That some people are so eager to have their preconceptions verified that they'll believe any shit that is thrown against the wall and sticks. The site was bogus. The study was bogus Anyone who claimed that the study proved what they always knew is too easily fooled.

                          The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.

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                            Actually the study proves what we have always known: That some people are so eager to have their preconceptions verified that they'll believe any shit that is thrown against the wall and sticks. The site was bogus. The study was bogus Anyone who claimed that the study proved what they always knew is too easily fooled.

                            The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.

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                            It was in the official news. I do not have to verify the official news.

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                              Actually the study proves what we have always known: That some people are so eager to have their preconceptions verified that they'll believe any shit that is thrown against the wall and sticks. The site was bogus. The study was bogus Anyone who claimed that the study proved what they always knew is too easily fooled.

                              The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.

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                              Bahahahah! Love it. The real tragedy here is that as presented it's not sufficiently bad enough to truly distinguish it as a fake when compared to other gems of "sciencey" you find on the web.

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                              • D David1987

                                Source (warning: pdf)[^] (google viewer link[^]) The average IQ of IE6 users in 2011 was just a bit over 80, whereas Firefox is around 110 and Opera around 130. In case you're not familiar with the IQ scale, it's a bell graph scale where 100 is by definition the average, and the standard deviation is 15. 80 is officially[^] bad (dullness, or somewhere between mild mental retardation and dull-normal). So, are you still using IE6? :)

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                                David1987 wrote:

                                In case you're not familiar with the IQ scale, it's a bell graph scale where 100 is by definition the average, and the standard deviation is 15. 80 is officially[^] bad (dullness, or somewhere between mild mental retardation and dull-normal).

                                So now that the story has been proven a hoax, how smart do YOU feel? :laugh:

                                XAlan Burkhart

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                                  David1987 wrote:

                                  In case you're not familiar with the IQ scale, it's a bell graph scale where 100 is by definition the average, and the standard deviation is 15. 80 is officially[^] bad (dullness, or somewhere between mild mental retardation and dull-normal).

                                  So now that the story has been proven a hoax, how smart do YOU feel? :laugh:

                                  XAlan Burkhart

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                                  David1987
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                                  Oh I don't know, about as smart as every major news outlet and most tech blogs, all of which ran this as real news?

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                                    Oh I don't know, about as smart as every major news outlet and most tech blogs, all of which ran this as real news?

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                                    David1987 wrote:

                                    Oh I don't know, about as smart as every major news outlet and most tech blogs, all of which ran this as real news?

                                    OK, good answer. :thumbsup:

                                    XAlan Burkhart

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