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    Gordon Beeming
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    With some of the questions on codeproject you got to wonder the order people do things in. -Add question on codeproject -then Maybe google and don't go back to tell people I wasted their time after I've found the answer

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      With some of the questions on codeproject you got to wonder the order people do things in. -Add question on codeproject -then Maybe google and don't go back to tell people I wasted their time after I've found the answer

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        With some of the questions on codeproject you got to wonder the order people do things in. -Add question on codeproject -then Maybe google and don't go back to tell people I wasted their time after I've found the answer

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        GuyThiebaut
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        TheBinaryDigit wrote:

        tell people I wasted their time after I've found the answer

        I think this part is really important - as many of us search the forums and come across the same questions we have. It's always good to post even your own solutions.

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          With some of the questions on codeproject you got to wonder the order people do things in. -Add question on codeproject -then Maybe google and don't go back to tell people I wasted their time after I've found the answer

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            With some of the questions on codeproject you got to wonder the order people do things in. -Add question on codeproject -then Maybe google and don't go back to tell people I wasted their time after I've found the answer

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            CalvinHobbies
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            I've seen it where after going nuts debugging and trying different things, and then doing google searches with different search strings, not finding the required answer, many times finding tech sites that are blocked or forums where everyone is asking the same question and no answer in site. Come to codeproject, ask the question, and BAM answer where in I do a double blink thinking " wow, he's right, I totally forgot that way (FACE PALM).

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              With some of the questions on codeproject you got to wonder the order people do things in. -Add question on codeproject -then Maybe google and don't go back to tell people I wasted their time after I've found the answer

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                With some of the questions on codeproject you got to wonder the order people do things in. -Add question on codeproject -then Maybe google and don't go back to tell people I wasted their time after I've found the answer

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                Mike Hankey
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                It's all a game post a question then google to see who comes up with an answer quicker, me or you?

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                  With some of the questions on codeproject you got to wonder the order people do things in. -Add question on codeproject -then Maybe google and don't go back to tell people I wasted their time after I've found the answer

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                  I've always been puzzled over the fact that my colleagues so frequently come to me and ask me to google something for them. I've come to the conclusion that googling is hard. For some concepts, it's trivial to figure out a search phrase that gives you a useful signal-to-noise ratio in the results, but in many cases this is definitely not the case. You REALLY need to know what to search for. This is especially true for us who don't speak English natively. Most of the information we want is in English, but we may not know the English terms for what we search for. Sometimes we are searching for error messages that are shown in our own language - reverse-translating them before searching isn't at all trivial. The main reason that my colleagues often seek my help is probably that I'm somewhat of a language nerd (and absolutely love the English language). While certainly not perfect, I'm better at English (especially IT-oriented English) than probably all of my colleagues - which makes googling a lot easier for me. Also, finding the useful article in a result list mainly consisting of beginner stuff can be really hard unless you're already somewhat familiar with the basics of the concept at hand. And after all, I AM the senior in my office. In short: Googling for complex subjects is hard, requires languages skills and lots of experience. So... in SOME cases I think it's excusable to ask more experienced programmers on Code Project for help instead of googling. At least after unsuccessully trying to google the problem. Of course, MOST cases are not excusable, but SOME probably are... :)

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                    I've always been puzzled over the fact that my colleagues so frequently come to me and ask me to google something for them. I've come to the conclusion that googling is hard. For some concepts, it's trivial to figure out a search phrase that gives you a useful signal-to-noise ratio in the results, but in many cases this is definitely not the case. You REALLY need to know what to search for. This is especially true for us who don't speak English natively. Most of the information we want is in English, but we may not know the English terms for what we search for. Sometimes we are searching for error messages that are shown in our own language - reverse-translating them before searching isn't at all trivial. The main reason that my colleagues often seek my help is probably that I'm somewhat of a language nerd (and absolutely love the English language). While certainly not perfect, I'm better at English (especially IT-oriented English) than probably all of my colleagues - which makes googling a lot easier for me. Also, finding the useful article in a result list mainly consisting of beginner stuff can be really hard unless you're already somewhat familiar with the basics of the concept at hand. And after all, I AM the senior in my office. In short: Googling for complex subjects is hard, requires languages skills and lots of experience. So... in SOME cases I think it's excusable to ask more experienced programmers on Code Project for help instead of googling. At least after unsuccessully trying to google the problem. Of course, MOST cases are not excusable, but SOME probably are... :)

                    Peter the small turnip (1) It Has To Work. --RFC 1925[^]

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                    Henry Minute
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                    For those who do not have English as their first language googling can be difficult. However, it is often the case that folks use the correct terminology in their question but they have obviously not searched because all that is required to find an answer is to string those words/phrases together in the search box. Possibly even more annoying are those that when you do the above for them and point to a couple of relevant hits, then reply that they have already found those answers when they searched but they are 'not quite right'. Why on earth they do not mention that they have searched and what their search phrase was is beyond me.

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                      I've always been puzzled over the fact that my colleagues so frequently come to me and ask me to google something for them. I've come to the conclusion that googling is hard. For some concepts, it's trivial to figure out a search phrase that gives you a useful signal-to-noise ratio in the results, but in many cases this is definitely not the case. You REALLY need to know what to search for. This is especially true for us who don't speak English natively. Most of the information we want is in English, but we may not know the English terms for what we search for. Sometimes we are searching for error messages that are shown in our own language - reverse-translating them before searching isn't at all trivial. The main reason that my colleagues often seek my help is probably that I'm somewhat of a language nerd (and absolutely love the English language). While certainly not perfect, I'm better at English (especially IT-oriented English) than probably all of my colleagues - which makes googling a lot easier for me. Also, finding the useful article in a result list mainly consisting of beginner stuff can be really hard unless you're already somewhat familiar with the basics of the concept at hand. And after all, I AM the senior in my office. In short: Googling for complex subjects is hard, requires languages skills and lots of experience. So... in SOME cases I think it's excusable to ask more experienced programmers on Code Project for help instead of googling. At least after unsuccessully trying to google the problem. Of course, MOST cases are not excusable, but SOME probably are... :)

                      Peter the small turnip (1) It Has To Work. --RFC 1925[^]

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                      BobJanova
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                      While you make a good point, in many cases googling for the exact phrase used as the question here gives some useful answers, so they cannot be excused like this. (It's not just a language thing, it's an experience thing ... I have this issue with my mother who is not really a programmer but does some PHP scripting, and she hasn't worked out what search terms will give the answer for what are, to us here, simple questions.)

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                        With some of the questions on codeproject you got to wonder the order people do things in. -Add question on codeproject -then Maybe google and don't go back to tell people I wasted their time after I've found the answer

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                        PLEEEEEZZZZZZZZZ DON'T TELL!!!!!!!!! SEND CODE

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