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Around my office people use the calculator application on Windows. Recently there is a problem with that calculator, though. I talked to one of my co-workers and told him that 7 + 1 equals 10 according to the "new math." He said "no way." Then I fired up the calculator on his computer, switched to "Scientific", quickly pushed the "F7" key (without him noticing that), then punched 7+1. The result was 10. He was shocked. I then pushed the "F5" key (again without him noticing that), then punched 7 + 9. The result is again 10. He was astonished. The next day, he came to me and said he told his son about the "new math." And his son laughed. They could not repeat the result at home. He came to tell me that there is no "new math." I then demonstrated to him that the "new math" was indeed there. They still argue with me about this from time to time. I said the transition from "old math" to "new math" will not happen in one day. It will happen over a course of a few years. I then showed them by firing up the calculator application, and switched to octal mode, did some calculations, then switched to decimal mode, and do some more. The results were sometimes "correct", sometimes "wrong". I said this is how the transition works. It will work the "old math" sometimes, "new math" some other times. They were just confused. Of course the whole process I pushed the functions keys quickly while distracting them with something else. They never noticed the change in number system.
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Around my office people use the calculator application on Windows. Recently there is a problem with that calculator, though. I talked to one of my co-workers and told him that 7 + 1 equals 10 according to the "new math." He said "no way." Then I fired up the calculator on his computer, switched to "Scientific", quickly pushed the "F7" key (without him noticing that), then punched 7+1. The result was 10. He was shocked. I then pushed the "F5" key (again without him noticing that), then punched 7 + 9. The result is again 10. He was astonished. The next day, he came to me and said he told his son about the "new math." And his son laughed. They could not repeat the result at home. He came to tell me that there is no "new math." I then demonstrated to him that the "new math" was indeed there. They still argue with me about this from time to time. I said the transition from "old math" to "new math" will not happen in one day. It will happen over a course of a few years. I then showed them by firing up the calculator application, and switched to octal mode, did some calculations, then switched to decimal mode, and do some more. The results were sometimes "correct", sometimes "wrong". I said this is how the transition works. It will work the "old math" sometimes, "new math" some other times. They were just confused. Of course the whole process I pushed the functions keys quickly while distracting them with something else. They never noticed the change in number system.
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Around my office people use the calculator application on Windows. Recently there is a problem with that calculator, though. I talked to one of my co-workers and told him that 7 + 1 equals 10 according to the "new math." He said "no way." Then I fired up the calculator on his computer, switched to "Scientific", quickly pushed the "F7" key (without him noticing that), then punched 7+1. The result was 10. He was shocked. I then pushed the "F5" key (again without him noticing that), then punched 7 + 9. The result is again 10. He was astonished. The next day, he came to me and said he told his son about the "new math." And his son laughed. They could not repeat the result at home. He came to tell me that there is no "new math." I then demonstrated to him that the "new math" was indeed there. They still argue with me about this from time to time. I said the transition from "old math" to "new math" will not happen in one day. It will happen over a course of a few years. I then showed them by firing up the calculator application, and switched to octal mode, did some calculations, then switched to decimal mode, and do some more. The results were sometimes "correct", sometimes "wrong". I said this is how the transition works. It will work the "old math" sometimes, "new math" some other times. They were just confused. Of course the whole process I pushed the functions keys quickly while distracting them with something else. They never noticed the change in number system.
In 1978 I had my first contacts with New Math (base 16), so I would have seen through your little trick in a second. But shame on you for confusing gullible people that way. :) Edit: You forgot to show them that 1 + 1 also can equal 10.
"Dark the dark side is. Very dark..." - Yoda ---
"Shut up, Yoda, and just make yourself another toast." - Obi Wan Kenobi -
In 1978 I had my first contacts with New Math (base 16), so I would have seen through your little trick in a second. But shame on you for confusing gullible people that way. :) Edit: You forgot to show them that 1 + 1 also can equal 10.
"Dark the dark side is. Very dark..." - Yoda ---
"Shut up, Yoda, and just make yourself another toast." - Obi Wan KenobiCDP1802 wrote:
Edit: You forgot to show them that 1 + 1 also can equal 10.
I thought about that but when I switch to binary mode, too many keys were disabled. I thought that was too obvious and they might be able to notice that.
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In 1978 I had my first contacts with New Math (base 16), so I would have seen through your little trick in a second. But shame on you for confusing gullible people that way. :) Edit: You forgot to show them that 1 + 1 also can equal 10.
"Dark the dark side is. Very dark..." - Yoda ---
"Shut up, Yoda, and just make yourself another toast." - Obi Wan KenobiJust remember... Like the T-shirt says, "There are only 10 types of people in this world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't."
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels) -
Just remember... Like the T-shirt says, "There are only 10 types of people in this world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't."
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)And the problem is that very many people will not get it if they are told in this way. Half a year ago I had to spend some time to convince our intern that he is actually looking at 'this 1 and 0 stuff' when I showed him a hex dump-
"Dark the dark side is. Very dark..." - Yoda ---
"Shut up, Yoda, and just make yourself another toast." - Obi Wan Kenobi -
CDP1802 wrote:
Edit: You forgot to show them that 1 + 1 also can equal 10.
I thought about that but when I switch to binary mode, too many keys were disabled. I thought that was too obvious and they might be able to notice that.
Ok, but please assure me that he was no code monkey. An accountant, mailman or anything else, but please not anybody who writes code. :)
"Dark the dark side is. Very dark..." - Yoda ---
"Shut up, Yoda, and just make yourself another toast." - Obi Wan Kenobi -
And the problem is that very many people will not get it if they are told in this way. Half a year ago I had to spend some time to convince our intern that he is actually looking at 'this 1 and 0 stuff' when I showed him a hex dump-
"Dark the dark side is. Very dark..." - Yoda ---
"Shut up, Yoda, and just make yourself another toast." - Obi Wan KenobiThat's the point. If they understand it, it's funny for them. If they don't, it's funny for you. See? Binary :)
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels) -
Ok, but please assure me that he was no code monkey. An accountant, mailman or anything else, but please not anybody who writes code. :)
"Dark the dark side is. Very dark..." - Yoda ---
"Shut up, Yoda, and just make yourself another toast." - Obi Wan KenobiUnfortunately, those people in that office do make budget sheets all the time. They also use Excel. They are not feeling comfortable with the calculator now.
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Unfortunately, those people in that office do make budget sheets all the time. They also use Excel. They are not feeling comfortable with the calculator now.
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Around my office people use the calculator application on Windows. Recently there is a problem with that calculator, though. I talked to one of my co-workers and told him that 7 + 1 equals 10 according to the "new math." He said "no way." Then I fired up the calculator on his computer, switched to "Scientific", quickly pushed the "F7" key (without him noticing that), then punched 7+1. The result was 10. He was shocked. I then pushed the "F5" key (again without him noticing that), then punched 7 + 9. The result is again 10. He was astonished. The next day, he came to me and said he told his son about the "new math." And his son laughed. They could not repeat the result at home. He came to tell me that there is no "new math." I then demonstrated to him that the "new math" was indeed there. They still argue with me about this from time to time. I said the transition from "old math" to "new math" will not happen in one day. It will happen over a course of a few years. I then showed them by firing up the calculator application, and switched to octal mode, did some calculations, then switched to decimal mode, and do some more. The results were sometimes "correct", sometimes "wrong". I said this is how the transition works. It will work the "old math" sometimes, "new math" some other times. They were just confused. Of course the whole process I pushed the functions keys quickly while distracting them with something else. They never noticed the change in number system.
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And the problem is that very many people will not get it if they are told in this way. Half a year ago I had to spend some time to convince our intern that he is actually looking at 'this 1 and 0 stuff' when I showed him a hex dump-
"Dark the dark side is. Very dark..." - Yoda ---
"Shut up, Yoda, and just make yourself another toast." - Obi Wan KenobiSo look who's confused now! Hex is the hexadecimal system and the stuff with the ones and zeros only is called binary. So you told that co-worker of yours that hexadecimal is binary? :doh: Btw: There is also a unary system which was often used on prison walls to count the days.
"With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine."
Ross Callon, The Twelve Networking Truths, RFC1925
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So look who's confused now! Hex is the hexadecimal system and the stuff with the ones and zeros only is called binary. So you told that co-worker of yours that hexadecimal is binary? :doh: Btw: There is also a unary system which was often used on prison walls to count the days.
"With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine."
Ross Callon, The Twelve Networking Truths, RFC1925
No, He just had a little problem to understand the concept of different number system and that the values do not change, no matter what number system is used. Hex just happens to be very convenient for reading and, if needed, conversion to binary.
"Dark the dark side is. Very dark..." - Yoda ---
"Shut up, Yoda, and just make yourself another toast." - Obi Wan Kenobi -
Around my office people use the calculator application on Windows. Recently there is a problem with that calculator, though. I talked to one of my co-workers and told him that 7 + 1 equals 10 according to the "new math." He said "no way." Then I fired up the calculator on his computer, switched to "Scientific", quickly pushed the "F7" key (without him noticing that), then punched 7+1. The result was 10. He was shocked. I then pushed the "F5" key (again without him noticing that), then punched 7 + 9. The result is again 10. He was astonished. The next day, he came to me and said he told his son about the "new math." And his son laughed. They could not repeat the result at home. He came to tell me that there is no "new math." I then demonstrated to him that the "new math" was indeed there. They still argue with me about this from time to time. I said the transition from "old math" to "new math" will not happen in one day. It will happen over a course of a few years. I then showed them by firing up the calculator application, and switched to octal mode, did some calculations, then switched to decimal mode, and do some more. The results were sometimes "correct", sometimes "wrong". I said this is how the transition works. It will work the "old math" sometimes, "new math" some other times. They were just confused. Of course the whole process I pushed the functions keys quickly while distracting them with something else. They never noticed the change in number system.
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Unfortunately, those people in that office do make budget sheets all the time. They also use Excel. They are not feeling comfortable with the calculator now.
Just assure them that Excel only uses 'old math', so they should be safe..... until Windows 8 switches over everything to new math. ;P ;P
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin
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Just assure them that Excel only uses 'old math', so they should be safe..... until Windows 8 switches over everything to new math. ;P ;P
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin
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Windows 8 will probably use only New Math 2. It will take a while for them to advance to New Math 8 and eventually New Math 16.
"Dark the dark side is. Very dark..." - Yoda ---
"Shut up, Yoda, and just make yourself another toast." - Obi Wan KenobiCDP1802 wrote:
It will take a while for them to advance to New Math 8 and eventually New Math 16.
That just depends on their product cycle. If they go the Chrome route, they could be to New Math 16 by the end of the month. ;P
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin
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Around my office people use the calculator application on Windows. Recently there is a problem with that calculator, though. I talked to one of my co-workers and told him that 7 + 1 equals 10 according to the "new math." He said "no way." Then I fired up the calculator on his computer, switched to "Scientific", quickly pushed the "F7" key (without him noticing that), then punched 7+1. The result was 10. He was shocked. I then pushed the "F5" key (again without him noticing that), then punched 7 + 9. The result is again 10. He was astonished. The next day, he came to me and said he told his son about the "new math." And his son laughed. They could not repeat the result at home. He came to tell me that there is no "new math." I then demonstrated to him that the "new math" was indeed there. They still argue with me about this from time to time. I said the transition from "old math" to "new math" will not happen in one day. It will happen over a course of a few years. I then showed them by firing up the calculator application, and switched to octal mode, did some calculations, then switched to decimal mode, and do some more. The results were sometimes "correct", sometimes "wrong". I said this is how the transition works. It will work the "old math" sometimes, "new math" some other times. They were just confused. Of course the whole process I pushed the functions keys quickly while distracting them with something else. They never noticed the change in number system.
I'm surprised that no one has yet linked to Tom Leher's New Math[^] in a handy video format. :laugh:
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I'm surprised that no one has yet linked to Tom Leher's New Math[^] in a handy video format. :laugh:
I was too busy working 40 minutes ago... :sigh:
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