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Bill the Cat: Time for the worming pill [modified]

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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    Sorry to hear that :rose: We had a sudden-death cat last year - Beldin. He had scabby paws, with brown, smelly fur between them and the vet did a biopsy which showed nothing, so he was put on high-strength steroid injections. Three days in, he threw up, gagged, panted, and died on the way to the vet. Only 9 and fit as a flea. Diagnosis: Not the injections. Honest. Yeah, right... That's why we got Bill in March - "Hole in the House" syndrome.

    Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

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    QuiJohn
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    Yeah, it was the worst pet loss I've ever had. This was 5 years ago now. His older "sister," a neurotic calico, is still going strong at 14. She loves me and my boys, but looks at my wife like she's going to kill her in her sleep. We got a siamese last year who is great. She brought a dead bunny to the door last night, which is ok because those things breed like... rabbits.

    And sometimes when you're on, you're really f***ing on And your friends they sing along and they love you But the lows are so extreme that the good seems f***ing cheap And it teases you for weeks in its absence Rilo Kiley - "A Better Son/Daughter"

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      Yeah, it was the worst pet loss I've ever had. This was 5 years ago now. His older "sister," a neurotic calico, is still going strong at 14. She loves me and my boys, but looks at my wife like she's going to kill her in her sleep. We got a siamese last year who is great. She brought a dead bunny to the door last night, which is ok because those things breed like... rabbits.

      And sometimes when you're on, you're really f***ing on And your friends they sing along and they love you But the lows are so extreme that the good seems f***ing cheap And it teases you for weeks in its absence Rilo Kiley - "A Better Son/Daughter"

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      OriginalGriff
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      We had one (originally named Mademoiselle, but evolved to Madam, and eventually Fang) that was still a huntin' killin' fiend-from-hell at 20. She finally succumbed to massive cancers about six months after Chernobyl.

      Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
      "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        It sounds effective. Cruel, but effective. I think I will save that one for the last resort - he knows where I sleep... :laugh:

        Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

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        Mycroft Holmes
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        Actually its not cruel at all and the only thing that gets damaged (on the cat) is his dignity which as we all know is a very sensitive thing. It is certainly better and easier than the towel wrapping.

        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          Since he has been dissecting birdies in his litter tray again - makes it easier to clear up the bits he doesn't eat, but shows up why heven he wouldn't eat them - it was decided that once we had got his temperature pretty much under control we should re-worm him. He has been lethargic, and off his food for a few days, so we took him to the vet who stuck a probe where the sun don't shine and pronounced him ill - 106.5oF is not good, even for a cat. Two nice big jabs later, and by the time we get him home he is a lot brighter. Another visit last night and he's down to 103.4oF (so he's only about a degree above normal now). Ok. Time to Pill The Cat. Has everyone else tried this? No? Ok, let's run through the normal sequence of events... Pill...cat. Cat...pill. Step 1: His food smells like nothing on earth should, so we can just stuff the pill in there, and he'll eat it, eh? Result: It doesn't work like that. Cat will eat disgusting looking and smelling stuff with no problems, and walk away. Leaving a polished bowl, containing only a polished pill. Step 2: We'll grind the pill up, and mix it in this time. Perfect? Result: Cat refuses to eat, except for a small patch. Did he eat any pill? Who knows, but probably not. What's that polished dust at the bottom of his bowl? Step 3: Topology. The cat is a tube with a flap at the top. You open the flap, you insert the pill, you close the flap. Simples! Result: Did you forget that the flap has teeth, and the tube has claws? I'd put some germolene on those, if I was you. Step 4: Topology with a towel. Wrap the cat in the towel, hold the towel, prise the little jaws open. Insert pill. Shut jaws, hold mouth closed, tickle throat until cat swallows. Ahh.... Result: Cat waits five minutes and then there is a damp "ptooo" noise as the cat retrieves the pill from the secret fourth-dimensional pouch in his mouth, and spits it - highly polished - on the carpet. Cat looks smug. By this stage, disease transfer seems to have taken place: the cat looks healthy, and you feel ill. The pill (though unswallowed) may be said to have worked. However, you are a responsible pet owner, so you decide to get the pill down him, once and for all... Step 5: Repeat 4, with added problems. The cat now knows what to expect, so catching him first is going to be really difficult. Wrapping him in the towel is going to involve some damage this time too - and not to him. Still you have him immobile, and settled, so: Prise the little jaws open. Insert pill. shov

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          peterchen
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          OriginalGriff wrote:

          [edit]Centigrade replaced with Fahrenheit :O OriginalGriff[/edit]

          Why the fu would you do that?

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            OriginalGriff wrote:

            [edit]Centigrade replaced with Fahrenheit :O OriginalGriff[/edit]

            Why the fu would you do that?

            FILETIME to time_t
            | FoldWithUs! | sighist | WhoIncludes - Analyzing C++ include file hierarchy

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            OriginalGriff
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            'Cos I f'ed up and gave Bills temperature as 106oC rather than 106oF - at which point I should have boiled a kettle on his head and made coffee, rather than taking him to the vet...

            Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
            "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              Since he has been dissecting birdies in his litter tray again - makes it easier to clear up the bits he doesn't eat, but shows up why heven he wouldn't eat them - it was decided that once we had got his temperature pretty much under control we should re-worm him. He has been lethargic, and off his food for a few days, so we took him to the vet who stuck a probe where the sun don't shine and pronounced him ill - 106.5oF is not good, even for a cat. Two nice big jabs later, and by the time we get him home he is a lot brighter. Another visit last night and he's down to 103.4oF (so he's only about a degree above normal now). Ok. Time to Pill The Cat. Has everyone else tried this? No? Ok, let's run through the normal sequence of events... Pill...cat. Cat...pill. Step 1: His food smells like nothing on earth should, so we can just stuff the pill in there, and he'll eat it, eh? Result: It doesn't work like that. Cat will eat disgusting looking and smelling stuff with no problems, and walk away. Leaving a polished bowl, containing only a polished pill. Step 2: We'll grind the pill up, and mix it in this time. Perfect? Result: Cat refuses to eat, except for a small patch. Did he eat any pill? Who knows, but probably not. What's that polished dust at the bottom of his bowl? Step 3: Topology. The cat is a tube with a flap at the top. You open the flap, you insert the pill, you close the flap. Simples! Result: Did you forget that the flap has teeth, and the tube has claws? I'd put some germolene on those, if I was you. Step 4: Topology with a towel. Wrap the cat in the towel, hold the towel, prise the little jaws open. Insert pill. Shut jaws, hold mouth closed, tickle throat until cat swallows. Ahh.... Result: Cat waits five minutes and then there is a damp "ptooo" noise as the cat retrieves the pill from the secret fourth-dimensional pouch in his mouth, and spits it - highly polished - on the carpet. Cat looks smug. By this stage, disease transfer seems to have taken place: the cat looks healthy, and you feel ill. The pill (though unswallowed) may be said to have worked. However, you are a responsible pet owner, so you decide to get the pill down him, once and for all... Step 5: Repeat 4, with added problems. The cat now knows what to expect, so catching him first is going to be really difficult. Wrapping him in the towel is going to involve some damage this time too - and not to him. Still you have him immobile, and settled, so: Prise the little jaws open. Insert pill. shov

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              Gary Wheeler
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              I am eternally grateful that my oldest cat is easy to medicate. He takes 3 or 4 pills a day, depending on the day of the week, due to hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. Over the three years we've been treating him, I've gotten so good at it that I can get all of his pills down him in under 10 seconds. Our trick is that he gets a bit of canned food after he takes his pills. He now starts bugging us a couple of hours ahead of 'pill time', trying to get his treat early. I'm afraid our other two cats are like Bill. Giving them a pill involves substantial blood loss.

              Software Zen: delete this;

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                Sorry to hear that :rose: We had a sudden-death cat last year - Beldin. He had scabby paws, with brown, smelly fur between them and the vet did a biopsy which showed nothing, so he was put on high-strength steroid injections. Three days in, he threw up, gagged, panted, and died on the way to the vet. Only 9 and fit as a flea. Diagnosis: Not the injections. Honest. Yeah, right... That's why we got Bill in March - "Hole in the House" syndrome.

                Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

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                Garth J Lancaster
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                OriginalGriff wrote:

                That's why we got Bill in March

                hah - you only think it was that way around ... in Bill's mind, he got you, and you were the ones who played hard to get ;) I though under 'additional equipment required' .. a set of chain mail gloves like butchers use, would be useful thanks for the smile on a Friday am 'g'

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                  OriginalGriff wrote:

                  That's why we got Bill in March

                  hah - you only think it was that way around ... in Bill's mind, he got you, and you were the ones who played hard to get ;) I though under 'additional equipment required' .. a set of chain mail gloves like butchers use, would be useful thanks for the smile on a Friday am 'g'

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                  OriginalGriff
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                  Nah - to a cat, those are a large set of holes with some metal string round them! Kevlar reinforced motorcycle gloves, that's the ticket! :laugh:

                  Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                  "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                    'Cos I f'ed up and gave Bills temperature as 106oC rather than 106oF - at which point I should have boiled a kettle on his head and made coffee, rather than taking him to the vet...

                    Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

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                    Gary Wheeler
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                    It sounds like he was boiling mad anyway...

                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                    • L leppie

                      OriginalGriff wrote:

                      Has everyone else tried this?

                      Yip, easy once you know how. Grab below throat, squeeze jaws open, shove pill down. The next time it gets easier. :)

                      ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))

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                      Mike Ortmans
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                      leppie wrote: Grab below throat, squeeze jaws open, shove pill down. If that doesn't work, try the other end the cat will get the message :laugh: The older I get the better I was mikeo

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