Another stupid ruling
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http://www.msnbc.com/news/851208.asp?0cv=CB10[^] I can't believe how stupid some judges can be or the bad luck that MS keeps getting into by getting these morons.
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http://www.msnbc.com/news/851208.asp?0cv=CB10[^] I can't believe how stupid some judges can be or the bad luck that MS keeps getting into by getting these morons.
And this will affect you, how, exactly?
"Perhaps the truth is less interesting than the facts?" -- Amy Weiss, RIAA's Senior Vice President of Communications.
It's the new math! 421 == 156 ! -
http://www.msnbc.com/news/851208.asp?0cv=CB10[^] I can't believe how stupid some judges can be or the bad luck that MS keeps getting into by getting these morons.
Im creating a new project on sourceforge to remove java - a cross implementation version - IBM, SUN, MSFT, it doesnt matter this tool will get rid of that pesky court ordered:mad: Java safely. Look for Java2Trash in a few days. They have to approve the project first. With IBM running show on backend over there, I doubt it will make it through. Cheers
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http://www.msnbc.com/news/851208.asp?0cv=CB10[^] I can't believe how stupid some judges can be or the bad luck that MS keeps getting into by getting these morons.
maybe microsoft should sue Sun to get .NET on Solaris... Neil Van Eps
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And this will affect you, how, exactly?
"Perhaps the truth is less interesting than the facts?" -- Amy Weiss, RIAA's Senior Vice President of Communications.
It's the new math! 421 == 156 !T.Wilson wrote: And this will affect you, how, exactly? What the hell does that matter? I wasn't aware that was a requirement to have an opinion. By your standards, then you shouldn't be talking about a war with Iraq because if you're not in the military, it won't affect you. And as someone who fought in the last Gulf War and lost 2 friends over there, I got every damn right to say whatever I want to.
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T.Wilson wrote: And this will affect you, how, exactly? What the hell does that matter? I wasn't aware that was a requirement to have an opinion. By your standards, then you shouldn't be talking about a war with Iraq because if you're not in the military, it won't affect you. And as someone who fought in the last Gulf War and lost 2 friends over there, I got every damn right to say whatever I want to.
Terry Denham wrote: What the hell does that matter? Quite a bit, actually - if you're using Java. If not, then this specific ruling has nothing to do with anything you or I are likely to do, programming-wise. If you're targeting only Windows platforms, and could give a whit about cross-platform compatability, then it has even less relevance. But if you read the ruling, this is an injunction to get Microsoft uphold their orignal agreement they signed with Sun while the rest of the lawsuit goes forward. The judge felt there was enough merit to give life to the issue that Sun felt Microsoft deliberatly sabatoged the Java specification in order to promote their own product. In the end, it boils down to a licensing agreement between Microsoft and Sun.
"Perhaps the truth is less interesting than the facts?" -- Amy Weiss, RIAA's Senior Vice President of Communications.
It's the new math! 421 == 156 ! -
maybe microsoft should sue Sun to get .NET on Solaris... Neil Van Eps
Neil Van Eps wrote: maybe microsoft should sue Sun to get .NET on Solaris... Isn't that what Mono is for? And if Sun signed a license agreement to provide .NET-compatable services, then yes, they should. Otherwise, it's up to them (Sun) to do so. Or more likely, Sun's customers that want/need .NET and/or C# on SunOS to get Sun to provide it.
"Perhaps the truth is less interesting than the facts?" -- Amy Weiss, RIAA's Senior Vice President of Communications.
It's the new math! 421 == 156 ! -
Im creating a new project on sourceforge to remove java - a cross implementation version - IBM, SUN, MSFT, it doesnt matter this tool will get rid of that pesky court ordered:mad: Java safely. Look for Java2Trash in a few days. They have to approve the project first. With IBM running show on backend over there, I doubt it will make it through. Cheers
Topper Price wrote: Im creating a new project on sourceforge to remove java Lemme know when it's done, I'll be more than happy to use it first thing! :)
"Perhaps the truth is less interesting than the facts?" -- Amy Weiss, RIAA's Senior Vice President of Communications.
It's the new math! 421 == 156 ! -
T.Wilson wrote: And this will affect you, how, exactly? What the hell does that matter? I wasn't aware that was a requirement to have an opinion. By your standards, then you shouldn't be talking about a war with Iraq because if you're not in the military, it won't affect you. And as someone who fought in the last Gulf War and lost 2 friends over there, I got every damn right to say whatever I want to.
You are comparing loosing people in a war to putting Sun Java in the Windows OS. :~ Personally, I think the judge ruling in favor of Sun in this matter is great. Pankaj Without struggle, there is no progress
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maybe microsoft should sue Sun to get .NET on Solaris... Neil Van Eps
Did MS agree to ship Java? Yes. Did Sun agree to ship .Net? No. MS should show some integrity and honour their agreement. Davy Weblog, Ramblings and more... www.latedecember.com
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Did MS agree to ship Java? Yes. Did Sun agree to ship .Net? No. MS should show some integrity and honour their agreement. Davy Weblog, Ramblings and more... www.latedecember.com
Davy Mitchell wrote: Did MS agree to ship Java? Yes. Microsoft did not agree, or even guarantee, to ship Java let alone indefinitely. I just read the Sun/Microsoft contract and it's pretty clear that Microsoft was granted the right to do just about anything they wanted. http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/java/contract.asp[^]
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Davy Mitchell wrote: Did MS agree to ship Java? Yes. Microsoft did not agree, or even guarantee, to ship Java let alone indefinitely. I just read the Sun/Microsoft contract and it's pretty clear that Microsoft was granted the right to do just about anything they wanted. http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/java/contract.asp[^]
Here's how the timeline went. MS licenses Java from Sun. MS extends the MS JVM to allow Java applications to do more directly with the Win32 API (J++)(Java WFC) Sun sues MS and wins in having MS loose it's license of Java. MS pulls Java from Windows XP Sun sues MS to now force MS to ship Java with Windows after winning a case to have MS remove its JVM from Windows. This is why I disagree with the ruling. It's exactly what Sun wanted, MS to remove it's JVM, which they are doing. This is just Sun being a big "cry baby". And remember, this has to do with Java and not JavaScript so all this talk out there about it breaking the internet is bunk. JavaScript is not Java and the only Java application that I have ever used over the internet is eTrade's Streamer, everything else out there is either JavaScript or Flash and if I have to download a java application, I can just as easily download the Java runtime from Sun if I need to run a Java application.