Salesman - why don't they get it?
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I'm going to have to disagree here. Cloud computing means something specific to us tech types, but in reality means something quite different to consumers and users. Apple positioned "the cloud" in a way consumers understand - "get my stuff wherever I am". We tech types try to wrap specific implementations around the term and that just isn't what "cloud computing" is all about. If the product provides a web front end, to a consumer, that could easily be considered "working in the cloud". The reality is that most web apps qualify as cloud computing systems from a consumer perspective. Whether or not the back end is distributed across N data centers and dynamically allocates system resources, etc. consumers don't care. Within the tech community, the term means one thing. Outside of our little universe, it means something else. If it enables a company to make a sale because the buzz word catches the clients/consumers attention - more power to it. The real hope for cloud computing may not be realized by your implementation, but in truth, that would be impossible with any cloud computing platform today. Consumers and clients are more and more treating the concept of the cloud as meaning ubiquitous access - PC, SmartPhone, tablet, direct brain access without risk of loss or theft. There really is no system that can meet that ideal.
I think you're right in this case, though it does feel like a generic term that's being abused; I'm trying to think of other tech terms that have become mainstream and gone on to mean something different from what they originally described, I'm sure there's a few.
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I think you're right in this case, though it does feel like a generic term that's being abused; I'm trying to think of other tech terms that have become mainstream and gone on to mean something different from what they originally described, I'm sure there's a few.
It's not a tech term, although many techies would dance for joy if it happened to certain unnamed companies repeatedly, but the mass moron meaning of decimate is roughly the opposite of the latin meaning.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius
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thrakazog wrote:
Tell salesman the bat is part of cloud computing.
Odly you just reminded me of the scene from Big Lebowski with John Goodman smashing up a nice sporty car screaming "This is what happens when you [NOT KSS] a stranger in the [NOT KSS]!"
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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It's not a tech term, although many techies would dance for joy if it happened to certain unnamed companies repeatedly, but the mass moron meaning of decimate is roughly the opposite of the latin meaning.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius
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Salesmen aren't paid to "get it". They're paid to "sell it".
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Salesmen aren't paid to "get it". They're paid to "sell it".
Now that is a quote worth logging!
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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Vark111 wrote:
Sales - making pond scum everywhere
Ever tried it? Ever tried selling? Easy is it? Be very gratefull there are people who CAN do it, a LOT better than you, who generate YOUR salary. Be a bit gratefull eh? We arent all made the same, cant all do the same jobs, but that doesnt make you a higher for, of life.
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Our company has been working on a system that provides a web front end to databases held on our server that's accessible over the internet, we've used it successfully internally and now the sales guys are trying to sell it to external clients and today's big buzzword is "Cloud Computing". It's not cloud computing, it doesn't run in a cloud, we don't offer cloud services, it doesn't even look like a cloud, yet because it's accessible via the web the sales guy keeps sending me select definitions of cloud computing that our system tenuously falls into; no matter what I say he's dead set on selling it as a cloud computing service/platform. :doh: Anyone else had a product that their sales dept completely got the wrong end of the stick with???
Make up a phrase and tell him it is the next big thing that's obsoleting "Cloud Computing" (like "Online Sage-driven Hierarchical Information Technology") :-D
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thrakazog wrote:
Tell salesman the bat is part of cloud computing.
Odly you just reminded me of the scene from Big Lebowski with John Goodman smashing up a nice sporty car screaming "This is what happens when you [NOT KSS] a stranger in the [NOT KSS]!"
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
What's non KSS about "pay" and "dealership"? :laugh:
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius
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Our company has been working on a system that provides a web front end to databases held on our server that's accessible over the internet, we've used it successfully internally and now the sales guys are trying to sell it to external clients and today's big buzzword is "Cloud Computing". It's not cloud computing, it doesn't run in a cloud, we don't offer cloud services, it doesn't even look like a cloud, yet because it's accessible via the web the sales guy keeps sending me select definitions of cloud computing that our system tenuously falls into; no matter what I say he's dead set on selling it as a cloud computing service/platform. :doh: Anyone else had a product that their sales dept completely got the wrong end of the stick with???
I recall a cartoon (Dilbert?) in the mid-90s: Engineer: "The executable has to be on a tape and the data has to be be on a floppy drive." Salesguy: "We'll call it multimedia!"
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It's not a tech term, although many techies would dance for joy if it happened to certain unnamed companies repeatedly, but the mass moron meaning of decimate is roughly the opposite of the latin meaning.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius
Dan Neely wrote:
the mass moron meaning of decimate is roughly the opposite of the latin meaning
Too right. Not that losing 1 in 10 men in your legion is a picnic.
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