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What's a degree anyway?

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  • R Reiss

    My tripos was in natural science rather than computing, which is difficult to learn outside of a university setting. A degree doesn't make you intelligent (I believe that intelligence is a matter of nature), but it does give you an opportunity to gain knowledge in a structured way - people learn in different ways, but here in the UK so many people now go to university, that without a degree you will struggle to get a good job without nepotism. :sigh:

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    Even more sad, in the U.S. I find this to be the case:

    Reiss wrote:

    but here in the UK so many people now go to university, that without a Masters degree you will struggle to get a good job without nepotism

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      http://ocw.mit.edu/index.htm[^] MIT offers all class materials online, for free. You just don't get a degree. I say awesome. [Probably a repost]

      "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.

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      I can't wait to do the AI course offered here[^]. Also, I highly recommend taking a look through this site: http://www.khanacademy.org/[^]

      Jason

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      • N Nagy Vilmos

        I think you'll find it's while getting wasted :-D


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        Kyle Sponable
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        I flew drunk once and never again that was the worst headache The turbulence was not very well appreciated either.

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        • G gavindon

          sigh... algorithms.. I also did not take typing classes... :laugh:

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          Kyle Sponable
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          I agree oh well I guess paper does not automatically mean a degree is worth anything. Market Saturation for the fail

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          • J Jason Hooper

            I can't wait to do the AI course offered here[^]. Also, I highly recommend taking a look through this site: http://www.khanacademy.org/[^]

            Jason

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            lewax00
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            I'm taking AI starting next week. (Not the online one you linked to, although our textbook is the one mentioned in the article) AI is the primary reason I'm enrolling in the combined BS+MS program here, all the cool AI courses are graduate level (the AI course itself being the only exception, although it can also be taken for grad level credit).

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            • K Kyle Sponable

              I flew drunk once and never again that was the worst headache The turbulence was not very well appreciated either.

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              The problems I always had with flying drunk was that when you arrived, you either had to deal with Customs and Immigration with a hangover, or while still drunk. Neither works very well... :laugh:

              Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

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              • R rnbergren

                Not sure I Want to watch the programming theory stuff but some of that other stuff looks amazing. Of course I do the programming theory stuff all day long.

                To err is human to really mess up you need a computer

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                OriginalGriff
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                Doesn't mean it isn't worth a quick scan - it is surprisingly easy to forget something interesting / important if you just don't use it...

                Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

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                • K Kyle Sponable

                  I flew drunk once and never again that was the worst headache The turbulence was not very well appreciated either.

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                  Nagy Vilmos
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                  I flew sober once...


                  Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                  • J Jim Crafton

                    Interesting. Have you watched any of it? If so what did you think of it?

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                    wizardzz
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                    No, just had it sent my way while at work. I'll have to look at it more over the weekend.

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                    • D David1987

                      A license to get a job.

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                      Shouldn't be though: http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2011/01/18/study_finds_large_numbers_of_college_students_don_t_learn_much[^]

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        The problems I always had with flying drunk was that when you arrived, you either had to deal with Customs and Immigration with a hangover, or while still drunk. Neither works very well... :laugh:

                        Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

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                        Smithers Jones
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                        Been there, done that. Several times. Last time in the States I nearly missed my connecting flight cause I thought, after having a few beer to much during a transpacific flight, that it might be a good idea to be "funny" with the Homeland Security guy. Next time I will just shut up and put my head down. :)

                        "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." (DNA)

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                        • S Smithers Jones

                          Been there, done that. Several times. Last time in the States I nearly missed my connecting flight cause I thought, after having a few beer to much during a transpacific flight, that it might be a good idea to be "funny" with the Homeland Security guy. Next time I will just shut up and put my head down. :)

                          "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." (DNA)

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                          OriginalGriff
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                          Ooo! Bad choice! Fortunately I was on a dry airline when I flew to Malaysia via Pakistan, or the the stop over in Karachi might have been a few years longer than planned... :omg:

                          Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

                          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                          "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                          • D David1987

                            A license to get a job.

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                            David1987 wrote:

                            A license to get a job.

                            Kind of like a drivers license. Doesn't mean one can actually drive the car. Certainly doesn't mean one knows how the car works. Most assuredly doesn't mean that one will ever be able to win a professional car race. At least some possibility that the only car ever driven was a go kart. And no guarantee that one won't drive drunk, kill an entire family and then end up in a high speed chase.

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                            • N Nagy Vilmos

                              I flew sober once...


                              Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                              Kyle Sponable
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                              Yeah after flying drunk I think I will just sleep through the flight

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                              • W wizardzz

                                http://ocw.mit.edu/index.htm[^] MIT offers all class materials online, for free. You just don't get a degree. I say awesome. [Probably a repost]

                                "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.

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                                0bx
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                                There is are growing amount of lectures from other universities available online. You may also want to check out Khan academy. That guy has been busy building an enormous database of short 10 minute lessons on Youtube, using nothing but microphone and microsoft paint. He started doing this as a hobby, then he quit his job as a hedge-fund analyst and started doing it full-time. He won an award by Google and received a huge donation from Bill Gates to give him the freedom to expand his project to a genuine online college, complete with lesson plans and online training... everything completely free. His video's are literally building up from "1+1=2", to calculus and advanced linear algebra. His series span from mathematics, physics, chemistry, a broad selection of finance and some other topics like history, biology etc...

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