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    I found this on the web this morning, and if it didn't sound plausible, I wouldn't post it here. For our American users: Subject: The Execution of SEAL Team Six (and Ramadan) The Execution of SEAL Team Six (Part 1) Posted by Ann Barnhardt - August 6, AD 2011 4:08 PM MST Barnhardt.biz - Commodity Brokerage (CPR: She's the SAME Ann Barnhardt that burned the Koran for being EVIL.) You're damn right I said it. On May 5th I had an email conversation with a retired military man with spook contacts. All were in total agreement that the Bin Laden episode was pure theater. The SEALS were sent into a compound as evidenced by the lost chopper on site. But Osama Bin Laden wasn't in that compound. Osama Bin Laden has been dead for years. Bin Laden had a genetic condition that caused renal failure (this genetic condition is common among deeply inbred Saudi Arab Muslims). Bin Laden had been on dialysis BEFORE 9/11. Dialysis is difficult enough for people in first world countries who can have it done in outstanding facilities. Bin Laden was having it done either in caves or in homes post 9/11. People in renal failure having dialysis done in fricking caves do NOT live for ten more years. Period. There was no dialysis equipment found in the compound the SEALS raided on May 2. Of course there wasn't. Bin Laden wasn't in that compound because Bin Laden has been dead for years. This is why the "body" was declared "positively identified" faster than any known DNA testing process in existence - and this DNA testing was carried out not in a lab mind you, but inside Chinook and/or V-22 Osprey helos en route to the USS Carl Vinson. The body was then dumped into the Indian Ocean in a mad dash to ensure that "burial" took place within 24 hours of death in order to "honor" musloid burial traditions. Not a single picture of the so-called "Bin Laden corpse" has ever been released - and never will. The entire Bin Laden episode was stagecraft. It was pure theater that was designed to give Obama a boost in the polls and give distraction and cover. Distract from what? Cover from what? April 20, 2011: The release date of Dr. Jerome Corsi's book, "Where's the Birth Certificate" is announced as May 17, and pre-sales begin on Amazon.com. Corsi's work is known to be extremely thorough and meticulous. Within hours, Corsi's book is #1 on Amazon.com - fully 28 days before its release. The Obama regime is panicked. April 27, 2011: In order to diffuse and undercut the Corsi book, the Obama regime releases a PDF image purported to b

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      I found this on the web this morning, and if it didn't sound plausible, I wouldn't post it here. For our American users: Subject: The Execution of SEAL Team Six (and Ramadan) The Execution of SEAL Team Six (Part 1) Posted by Ann Barnhardt - August 6, AD 2011 4:08 PM MST Barnhardt.biz - Commodity Brokerage (CPR: She's the SAME Ann Barnhardt that burned the Koran for being EVIL.) You're damn right I said it. On May 5th I had an email conversation with a retired military man with spook contacts. All were in total agreement that the Bin Laden episode was pure theater. The SEALS were sent into a compound as evidenced by the lost chopper on site. But Osama Bin Laden wasn't in that compound. Osama Bin Laden has been dead for years. Bin Laden had a genetic condition that caused renal failure (this genetic condition is common among deeply inbred Saudi Arab Muslims). Bin Laden had been on dialysis BEFORE 9/11. Dialysis is difficult enough for people in first world countries who can have it done in outstanding facilities. Bin Laden was having it done either in caves or in homes post 9/11. People in renal failure having dialysis done in fricking caves do NOT live for ten more years. Period. There was no dialysis equipment found in the compound the SEALS raided on May 2. Of course there wasn't. Bin Laden wasn't in that compound because Bin Laden has been dead for years. This is why the "body" was declared "positively identified" faster than any known DNA testing process in existence - and this DNA testing was carried out not in a lab mind you, but inside Chinook and/or V-22 Osprey helos en route to the USS Carl Vinson. The body was then dumped into the Indian Ocean in a mad dash to ensure that "burial" took place within 24 hours of death in order to "honor" musloid burial traditions. Not a single picture of the so-called "Bin Laden corpse" has ever been released - and never will. The entire Bin Laden episode was stagecraft. It was pure theater that was designed to give Obama a boost in the polls and give distraction and cover. Distract from what? Cover from what? April 20, 2011: The release date of Dr. Jerome Corsi's book, "Where's the Birth Certificate" is announced as May 17, and pre-sales begin on Amazon.com. Corsi's work is known to be extremely thorough and meticulous. Within hours, Corsi's book is #1 on Amazon.com - fully 28 days before its release. The Obama regime is panicked. April 27, 2011: In order to diffuse and undercut the Corsi book, the Obama regime releases a PDF image purported to b

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      What I see here is a full blown case of Obama Derangement Syndrome.

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        What I see here is a full blown case of Obama Derangement Syndrome.

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        Not really. Any professional politician would be likely to do the same. (And our current president is just that; he has no other skills to fall back on.) I could very easily see OBL's death being hidden by all sides. Them, to keep their organization running smoothly. Us, because of the fallout from pissed off yahoos. As far as that goes, we were between iraq and a hard place regarding him. Kill him and piss folks off. Capture him, and piss folks off + the showbiz of a trial and all the extraneous crap that would cause. Better that he just "not be around" with nobody outside knowing the truth. Making a big show of "killing" him was a political move, serving only one purpose. Or an attempt at one, at any rate.

        I thought you had to go to Pittsburgh for that. My Mu[sic] My Films My Windows Programs, etc.

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          What I see here is a full blown case of Obama Derangement Syndrome.

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          Majerus wrote:

          What I see here is a full blown case of Obama Derangement Syndrome.

          It's so much easier to go right to the nasty personal attacks than to talk about the issues John raised, isn't it?

          “Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein

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            Not really. Any professional politician would be likely to do the same. (And our current president is just that; he has no other skills to fall back on.) I could very easily see OBL's death being hidden by all sides. Them, to keep their organization running smoothly. Us, because of the fallout from pissed off yahoos. As far as that goes, we were between iraq and a hard place regarding him. Kill him and piss folks off. Capture him, and piss folks off + the showbiz of a trial and all the extraneous crap that would cause. Better that he just "not be around" with nobody outside knowing the truth. Making a big show of "killing" him was a political move, serving only one purpose. Or an attempt at one, at any rate.

            I thought you had to go to Pittsburgh for that. My Mu[sic] My Films My Windows Programs, etc.

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            GenJerDan wrote:

            Not really.

            yeah, really. The OP covered a lot more ground than just OBL. And his personal musings go pretty far, so I'll stick with Obama derangement.

            GenJerDan wrote:

            I could very easily see OBL's death being hidden by all sides.

            That's just unsupported hypotheticals.

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              I found this on the web this morning, and if it didn't sound plausible, I wouldn't post it here. For our American users: Subject: The Execution of SEAL Team Six (and Ramadan) The Execution of SEAL Team Six (Part 1) Posted by Ann Barnhardt - August 6, AD 2011 4:08 PM MST Barnhardt.biz - Commodity Brokerage (CPR: She's the SAME Ann Barnhardt that burned the Koran for being EVIL.) You're damn right I said it. On May 5th I had an email conversation with a retired military man with spook contacts. All were in total agreement that the Bin Laden episode was pure theater. The SEALS were sent into a compound as evidenced by the lost chopper on site. But Osama Bin Laden wasn't in that compound. Osama Bin Laden has been dead for years. Bin Laden had a genetic condition that caused renal failure (this genetic condition is common among deeply inbred Saudi Arab Muslims). Bin Laden had been on dialysis BEFORE 9/11. Dialysis is difficult enough for people in first world countries who can have it done in outstanding facilities. Bin Laden was having it done either in caves or in homes post 9/11. People in renal failure having dialysis done in fricking caves do NOT live for ten more years. Period. There was no dialysis equipment found in the compound the SEALS raided on May 2. Of course there wasn't. Bin Laden wasn't in that compound because Bin Laden has been dead for years. This is why the "body" was declared "positively identified" faster than any known DNA testing process in existence - and this DNA testing was carried out not in a lab mind you, but inside Chinook and/or V-22 Osprey helos en route to the USS Carl Vinson. The body was then dumped into the Indian Ocean in a mad dash to ensure that "burial" took place within 24 hours of death in order to "honor" musloid burial traditions. Not a single picture of the so-called "Bin Laden corpse" has ever been released - and never will. The entire Bin Laden episode was stagecraft. It was pure theater that was designed to give Obama a boost in the polls and give distraction and cover. Distract from what? Cover from what? April 20, 2011: The release date of Dr. Jerome Corsi's book, "Where's the Birth Certificate" is announced as May 17, and pre-sales begin on Amazon.com. Corsi's work is known to be extremely thorough and meticulous. Within hours, Corsi's book is #1 on Amazon.com - fully 28 days before its release. The Obama regime is panicked. April 27, 2011: In order to diffuse and undercut the Corsi book, the Obama regime releases a PDF image purported to b

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              Somewhat similarly, I have noticed that suddenly there are a plethora of living Medal of Honor winners providing Obama with photo ops in case anyone questions his martial spirit.

              John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

              I *will* defend it to my last breath.

              You won't be standing by yourself. One thing I think Obama has forgotten was how many baby-boomers were under arms between '64 and '72.

              “Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein

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                Majerus wrote:

                What I see here is a full blown case of Obama Derangement Syndrome.

                It's so much easier to go right to the nasty personal attacks than to talk about the issues John raised, isn't it?

                “Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein

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                If it wasn't a plausible notion, I certainly wouldn't have wasted everyone's time. I thought the person made some good points, especially about the secure nature and typical past official disavowing of covert operations. Unit participation and info regarding intended targets - even at the most basic level of combat - is supposed to be classified information. This stuff HAD to be leaked on purpose. Someone (or a group of someones) gave the Taliban otherwise classified info, and should be sought out and put in front of a firing squad for doing so. That chopper was a gift to the musloids, direct from the Administration.

                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                  Somewhat similarly, I have noticed that suddenly there are a plethora of living Medal of Honor winners providing Obama with photo ops in case anyone questions his martial spirit.

                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                  I *will* defend it to my last breath.

                  You won't be standing by yourself. One thing I think Obama has forgotten was how many baby-boomers were under arms between '64 and '72.

                  “Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein

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                  After my wife read what I posted, she suggested we buy more ammo.

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                    GenJerDan wrote:

                    Not really.

                    yeah, really. The OP covered a lot more ground than just OBL. And his personal musings go pretty far, so I'll stick with Obama derangement.

                    GenJerDan wrote:

                    I could very easily see OBL's death being hidden by all sides.

                    That's just unsupported hypotheticals.

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                    Majerus wrote:

                    The OP covered a lot more ground than just OBL. And his personal musings go pretty far, so I'll stick with Obama derangement.

                    "Musings"? You're right about one thing - Obama is deranged if he thinks he's going to be able to pull this off without incurring retribution.

                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                      After my wife read what I posted, she suggested we buy more ammo.

                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                      After my wife read what I posted, she suggested we buy more ammo.

                      My kind of woman :thumbsup: The one question I would raise would be whether there would be that many men in uniform who would support Obama or the progressives in a take-over. There are some, I know, who would follow any and or all orders, but an awful lot of them took that same oath to the Constitution, not to any man.

                      “Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein

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                        GenJerDan wrote:

                        Not really.

                        yeah, really. The OP covered a lot more ground than just OBL. And his personal musings go pretty far, so I'll stick with Obama derangement.

                        GenJerDan wrote:

                        I could very easily see OBL's death being hidden by all sides.

                        That's just unsupported hypotheticals.

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                        Try this on for size: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71Jux68F_AQ[^] The Posse Comitatus Act (18 United States Code, § 1385) is dead. Our freedoms and constitutional rights are being systematically eroded. I challenge you to prove otherwise.

                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                          After my wife read what I posted, she suggested we buy more ammo.

                          My kind of woman :thumbsup: The one question I would raise would be whether there would be that many men in uniform who would support Obama or the progressives in a take-over. There are some, I know, who would follow any and or all orders, but an awful lot of them took that same oath to the Constitution, not to any man.

                          “Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein

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                          We can only wait to see what happens in that regard. You just never know what will happen when push comes to shove. I know at least one Army Colonel who would not follow those kinds of orders. If things go sideways, I'll try to post one more message here before I disappear into the wilds of Texas. :)

                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                            Majerus wrote:

                            What I see here is a full blown case of Obama Derangement Syndrome.

                            It's so much easier to go right to the nasty personal attacks than to talk about the issues John raised, isn't it?

                            “Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein

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                            He hasn't raised any issues. Birtherism? Nothing to it, never has been. And the rest is nothing more than crazy speculation - This is priceless "The Obama regime is composed of Marxist-Leninist psychopaths." and this: " he is a puppet front for a cabal of Marxist-Leninsts including Soros, Ayers, Dohrn, Strong, Jarrett and many, many others" and this: "The three dead homosexual black men from Trinity United Church of Christ, Young, Bland and Spencer, all of whom were sexually linked to Barack Obama". I'm have no reason to take any of this seriously.

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                              Try this on for size: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71Jux68F_AQ[^] The Posse Comitatus Act (18 United States Code, § 1385) is dead. Our freedoms and constitutional rights are being systematically eroded. I challenge you to prove otherwise.

                              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                              -----
                              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                              -----
                              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                              John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                              Our freedoms and constitutional rights are being systematically eroded. I challenge you to prove otherwise.

                              I won't disagree with you there. Just everything else you and Ann have said.

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                                Majerus wrote:

                                The OP covered a lot more ground than just OBL. And his personal musings go pretty far, so I'll stick with Obama derangement.

                                "Musings"? You're right about one thing - Obama is deranged if he thinks he's going to be able to pull this off without incurring retribution.

                                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                -----
                                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                -----
                                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                Obama is deranged if he thinks he's going to be able to pull this off without incurring retribution.

                                I agree. I doubt that he is even thinking about it.

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                                  He hasn't raised any issues. Birtherism? Nothing to it, never has been. And the rest is nothing more than crazy speculation - This is priceless "The Obama regime is composed of Marxist-Leninist psychopaths." and this: " he is a puppet front for a cabal of Marxist-Leninsts including Soros, Ayers, Dohrn, Strong, Jarrett and many, many others" and this: "The three dead homosexual black men from Trinity United Church of Christ, Young, Bland and Spencer, all of whom were sexually linked to Barack Obama". I'm have no reason to take any of this seriously.

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                                  Majerus wrote:

                                  I'm have no reason to take any of this seriously.

                                  And yet you do take him seriously enough to yammer on and on almost as if you has something to say; and you demonstrate a great need, apparently, to insult John as much and as frequently as you can, in reaction to what he posted.

                                  “Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein

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                                    I found this on the web this morning, and if it didn't sound plausible, I wouldn't post it here. For our American users: Subject: The Execution of SEAL Team Six (and Ramadan) The Execution of SEAL Team Six (Part 1) Posted by Ann Barnhardt - August 6, AD 2011 4:08 PM MST Barnhardt.biz - Commodity Brokerage (CPR: She's the SAME Ann Barnhardt that burned the Koran for being EVIL.) You're damn right I said it. On May 5th I had an email conversation with a retired military man with spook contacts. All were in total agreement that the Bin Laden episode was pure theater. The SEALS were sent into a compound as evidenced by the lost chopper on site. But Osama Bin Laden wasn't in that compound. Osama Bin Laden has been dead for years. Bin Laden had a genetic condition that caused renal failure (this genetic condition is common among deeply inbred Saudi Arab Muslims). Bin Laden had been on dialysis BEFORE 9/11. Dialysis is difficult enough for people in first world countries who can have it done in outstanding facilities. Bin Laden was having it done either in caves or in homes post 9/11. People in renal failure having dialysis done in fricking caves do NOT live for ten more years. Period. There was no dialysis equipment found in the compound the SEALS raided on May 2. Of course there wasn't. Bin Laden wasn't in that compound because Bin Laden has been dead for years. This is why the "body" was declared "positively identified" faster than any known DNA testing process in existence - and this DNA testing was carried out not in a lab mind you, but inside Chinook and/or V-22 Osprey helos en route to the USS Carl Vinson. The body was then dumped into the Indian Ocean in a mad dash to ensure that "burial" took place within 24 hours of death in order to "honor" musloid burial traditions. Not a single picture of the so-called "Bin Laden corpse" has ever been released - and never will. The entire Bin Laden episode was stagecraft. It was pure theater that was designed to give Obama a boost in the polls and give distraction and cover. Distract from what? Cover from what? April 20, 2011: The release date of Dr. Jerome Corsi's book, "Where's the Birth Certificate" is announced as May 17, and pre-sales begin on Amazon.com. Corsi's work is known to be extremely thorough and meticulous. Within hours, Corsi's book is #1 on Amazon.com - fully 28 days before its release. The Obama regime is panicked. April 27, 2011: In order to diffuse and undercut the Corsi book, the Obama regime releases a PDF image purported to b

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                                    To make an opening comment or two, I am sufficiently far right to consider both Genghis Kahn and Attila the Hun as left wing, lily-livered, pinko-liberal do-gooders, and also, I served, and am proud to have done so. As footnote, I am also a deep admirer of both the American Constitution, and the Founding Fathers. I started to read the post with an open mind, and frankly, not only do I like a good conspiracy theory, I also believe that most, if not all, governments will enter any undertaking that they think they can get away with. I was enjoying the whole thing until I reached the “Marxist-Leninist psychopaths” bit, whereupon I started to get a little suspicious, so I looked up the author, of whom I had heard little in the past. She would appear to have an agenda. When I was serving, there was an absolutely golden rule in my area of expertise – always evaluate intelligence in the light of its source, and so I went back and started to reread the article, looking for some good triple-A data. Regrettably, I found none – in fact, the whole thing foundered in the initial premise that Bin Laden was already dead from renal failure. Bluntly, the suggestion that, out of his tens of thousands of fanatic followers, no one would give him a kidney – or even two, in the light of their apparent urge to become martyrs to the cause - patently ludicrous. Without this corner stone, the rest of the edifice would appear to collapse. It is also worth noting that the sentence “Bin Laden had a genetic condition that caused renal failure (this genetic condition is common among deeply inbred Saudi Arab Muslims)” is first of all conjecture, but most importantly, irrelevant, as Osama Bin Laden’s mother was Syrian, with no chance of inbreeding. I enjoyed reading the article, and actually found it almost plausible, until it moved into political hysteria at the end. I would also like to add that I have read an American novel with a plot very similar to the one presented here. Finally, having been shot at in anger, and fortunately (at least from my point of view) been missed, I can do no other than quote Oliver Cromwell, as reported by Valentine Blacker in 1856, "Put your trust in god(*), my boys, and keep your powder dry!" (*) I strongly suggest your personal pantheon includes such deities as “Remington Arms Co”, “Smith and Wesson Holding Corporation”, “Colt’s Manufacturing Co”, and similar divine entities.

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                                      To make an opening comment or two, I am sufficiently far right to consider both Genghis Kahn and Attila the Hun as left wing, lily-livered, pinko-liberal do-gooders, and also, I served, and am proud to have done so. As footnote, I am also a deep admirer of both the American Constitution, and the Founding Fathers. I started to read the post with an open mind, and frankly, not only do I like a good conspiracy theory, I also believe that most, if not all, governments will enter any undertaking that they think they can get away with. I was enjoying the whole thing until I reached the “Marxist-Leninist psychopaths” bit, whereupon I started to get a little suspicious, so I looked up the author, of whom I had heard little in the past. She would appear to have an agenda. When I was serving, there was an absolutely golden rule in my area of expertise – always evaluate intelligence in the light of its source, and so I went back and started to reread the article, looking for some good triple-A data. Regrettably, I found none – in fact, the whole thing foundered in the initial premise that Bin Laden was already dead from renal failure. Bluntly, the suggestion that, out of his tens of thousands of fanatic followers, no one would give him a kidney – or even two, in the light of their apparent urge to become martyrs to the cause - patently ludicrous. Without this corner stone, the rest of the edifice would appear to collapse. It is also worth noting that the sentence “Bin Laden had a genetic condition that caused renal failure (this genetic condition is common among deeply inbred Saudi Arab Muslims)” is first of all conjecture, but most importantly, irrelevant, as Osama Bin Laden’s mother was Syrian, with no chance of inbreeding. I enjoyed reading the article, and actually found it almost plausible, until it moved into political hysteria at the end. I would also like to add that I have read an American novel with a plot very similar to the one presented here. Finally, having been shot at in anger, and fortunately (at least from my point of view) been missed, I can do no other than quote Oliver Cromwell, as reported by Valentine Blacker in 1856, "Put your trust in god(*), my boys, and keep your powder dry!" (*) I strongly suggest your personal pantheon includes such deities as “Remington Arms Co”, “Smith and Wesson Holding Corporation”, “Colt’s Manufacturing Co”, and similar divine entities.

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                                      But plausibility goes so well with a psychotic rant, that you rarely see the two standing alone. :) The evidence of FEMA camps (completely fenced with inward facing barbed wire) and practice for marshal law by the armed forces (and not just the Guard) is simply too coincidental. Just because it seems ridiculous doesn't mean you should keep a steady eye on your six...

                                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                        To make an opening comment or two, I am sufficiently far right to consider both Genghis Kahn and Attila the Hun as left wing, lily-livered, pinko-liberal do-gooders, and also, I served, and am proud to have done so. As footnote, I am also a deep admirer of both the American Constitution, and the Founding Fathers. I started to read the post with an open mind, and frankly, not only do I like a good conspiracy theory, I also believe that most, if not all, governments will enter any undertaking that they think they can get away with. I was enjoying the whole thing until I reached the “Marxist-Leninist psychopaths” bit, whereupon I started to get a little suspicious, so I looked up the author, of whom I had heard little in the past. She would appear to have an agenda. When I was serving, there was an absolutely golden rule in my area of expertise – always evaluate intelligence in the light of its source, and so I went back and started to reread the article, looking for some good triple-A data. Regrettably, I found none – in fact, the whole thing foundered in the initial premise that Bin Laden was already dead from renal failure. Bluntly, the suggestion that, out of his tens of thousands of fanatic followers, no one would give him a kidney – or even two, in the light of their apparent urge to become martyrs to the cause - patently ludicrous. Without this corner stone, the rest of the edifice would appear to collapse. It is also worth noting that the sentence “Bin Laden had a genetic condition that caused renal failure (this genetic condition is common among deeply inbred Saudi Arab Muslims)” is first of all conjecture, but most importantly, irrelevant, as Osama Bin Laden’s mother was Syrian, with no chance of inbreeding. I enjoyed reading the article, and actually found it almost plausible, until it moved into political hysteria at the end. I would also like to add that I have read an American novel with a plot very similar to the one presented here. Finally, having been shot at in anger, and fortunately (at least from my point of view) been missed, I can do no other than quote Oliver Cromwell, as reported by Valentine Blacker in 1856, "Put your trust in god(*), my boys, and keep your powder dry!" (*) I strongly suggest your personal pantheon includes such deities as “Remington Arms Co”, “Smith and Wesson Holding Corporation”, “Colt’s Manufacturing Co”, and similar divine entities.

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                                        Obviously, you have a bad case of Attila Derangement Syndrome. ;)

                                        Chris C-B wrote:

                                        always evaluate intelligence in the light of its source,

                                        Good enough. Have you evaluated the evidence for Osama's death going down the way it was reported (any of the varying reports put out by the White House until the found one they liked?) Perhaps John is overreacting, perhaps not. But there is no reason particularly to believe the Obama is telling us the truth - even though it would have been quite easy for him to have provided incontrovertible proof instead of making up a Muslim burial at sea ceremony. As John has already noted in his response, the FEMA camps do exist. It's equally true that we have in Napolitano someone who is far more concerned with demobilized veterans rising up than with groups like the Black Muslims, La Raza, or the folks planning on Days of rage at Wall Street and Broad. Why would someone assume that men and women who have put their lives on the line be the biggest threat to her version of law and order?

                                        “Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein

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                                          After my wife read what I posted, she suggested we buy more ammo.

                                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                                          Get "Slick Deals" for your phone. They even come with deals on ammo from time to time. :-D

                                          I thought you had to go to Pittsburgh for that. My Mu[sic] My Films My Windows Programs, etc.

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