Bug-out Bag
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
it will probably be worst initially in heavily populated cities, but will likely spread to outlying areas as the inner-city food supply runs out.
Any apocalypse-level event will have the city dwellers - especially the types who snigger at preparedness - heading to "the farms," sure that the rural folks are going to accept them with open arms. John have you read One Second After[^]?
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
Oakman wrote:
John have you read One Second After
Nah - I have to agree with one of the reviewers. An EMP won't disable everything, and certainly the distance from it will have a direct negative impact on its theoretical damage potential. Yeah, it would cause problems, and society would devolve to a point until calmer heads and superior firepower prevailed.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
Mike Hankey wrote:
JSOP is talking about hiking
"Plus both water purification tablets and iodine in my travel kit"
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
Oakman wrote:
"Plus both water purification tablets and iodine in my travel kit"
Sorry for some reason that didn't register in my head...my bad. :)
A girl phoned me and said, 'Come on over. There's nobody home.' I went over. Nobody was home! Rodney Dangerfield
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Oakman wrote:
"Plus both water purification tablets and iodine in my travel kit"
Sorry for some reason that didn't register in my head...my bad. :)
A girl phoned me and said, 'Come on over. There's nobody home.' I went over. Nobody was home! Rodney Dangerfield
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Oakman wrote:
John have you read One Second After
Nah - I have to agree with one of the reviewers. An EMP won't disable everything, and certainly the distance from it will have a direct negative impact on its theoretical damage potential. Yeah, it would cause problems, and society would devolve to a point until calmer heads and superior firepower prevailed.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
An EMP won't disable everything
I went to the source[^] to see what a bunch of rocket scientists thought. Forschman may have exaggerated some of the long-term effects, but since the truism that any major city is three days away from starvation remains valid, I suggest that the short-term effects are enough to create a catastrophe greater than anything this country has experienced. My read is that the Commission agrees with me.
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
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Good timing last I looked we have a hurricane headed straight for us, be here either Fri-Sat Category 2-3. (Unless they changed the forecast overnight) I would add a couple of gallons, at least of drinking water just in case.
A girl phoned me and said, 'Come on over. There's nobody home.' I went over. Nobody was home! Rodney Dangerfield
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Mike Hankey wrote:
that didn't register in my head...my bad
At our age, telling us twice is often needful ;)
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
That I was in the middle of a SQLite query with a butt load of joins. :) Are you telling me I have a bad mem....damn where'd I put them meds.
A girl phoned me and said, 'Come on over. There's nobody home.' I went over. Nobody was home! Rodney Dangerfield
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And why are they recycling names? We already had an Irene in 1999. All the other "I"s used up? I doubt it.
I thought you had to go to Pittsburgh for that. My Mu[sic] My Films My Windows Programs, etc.
Yeah come to think of it I believe that that was the year we got pounded by 3 hurricanes and one of them was Irene. From Wikipedia "October 15, 1999- Hurricane Irene" I remember that season well and the cleanup after. I restored a 3 story house a the beach and they said during the height of the storm they were on the 3rd floor and they could see the top of the waves out the window.
A girl phoned me and said, 'Come on over. There's nobody home.' I went over. Nobody was home! Rodney Dangerfield
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Gary Kirkham wrote:
His lady is packing too.
Yes, but she might have run out of ammo in the fierce firefight. It would be the honorable thing for him to do the job if this were to occur... hypothetically speaking of course. :-D
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
I wouldn't wait until my ex-wife ran out of ammo... I would start out assuming she was doomed from the outset.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
That I was in the middle of a SQLite query with a butt load of joins. :) Are you telling me I have a bad mem....damn where'd I put them meds.
A girl phoned me and said, 'Come on over. There's nobody home.' I went over. Nobody was home! Rodney Dangerfield
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Mike Hankey wrote:
damn where'd I put them meds.
If you're going to look for them, put your glasses on - where did you leave your glasses?
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
Oakman wrote:
If you're going to look for them, put your glasses on - where did you leave your glasses?
-doh- on top of my head. :) Bet that never happened to you?
A girl phoned me and said, 'Come on over. There's nobody home.' I went over. Nobody was home! Rodney Dangerfield
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Yes, shoes are very important. At least two pairs of socks, as well.
JSOP's list already had socks so I didn't repeat them in my post.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius
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OK maybe not a couple of gallons but a couple of bottles so if you need to get out quick you won't have to worry about water immediately.
A girl phoned me and said, 'Come on over. There's nobody home.' I went over. Nobody was home! Rodney Dangerfield
Bottled water on lasts a few warm months in the car before it should be replaced (the heat when it bakes in the sun greatly accelerates leaching stuff from the plastic). Unless you regularly drink bottled water and are conscientious enough to remember to rotate your car stock you'd be better with something designed for[^] long[^] term[^] storage[^]. IF there's an emergency and the only water you have is in old plastic bottles you're still better drinking it than unpurified water or dehydrating yourself; but it's still got stuff you don't want in you inside it.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius
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I wouldn't wait until my ex-wife ran out of ammo... I would start out assuming she was doomed from the outset.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997When did your ex qualify as a lady? :confused:
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius
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Bottled water on lasts a few warm months in the car before it should be replaced (the heat when it bakes in the sun greatly accelerates leaching stuff from the plastic). Unless you regularly drink bottled water and are conscientious enough to remember to rotate your car stock you'd be better with something designed for[^] long[^] term[^] storage[^]. IF there's an emergency and the only water you have is in old plastic bottles you're still better drinking it than unpurified water or dehydrating yourself; but it's still got stuff you don't want in you inside it.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius
Good point. I for one probably wouldn't check/rotate stock.
A girl phoned me and said, 'Come on over. There's nobody home.' I went over. Nobody was home! Rodney Dangerfield
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My wife asked me last night what a "bug-out" bag was, and I explained that it's essentially a backpack containing enough equipment and supplies to sustain one person for a minimum of three days in the event that you needed to immediately and efficiently evacuate your current location on foot. My wife was subsequently surprised to find out that I had already built each of us one. In fact, I keep mine in the trunk of my car. I wasn't going to give my wife hers until it looked like she'd need it (I didn't want her to think I was a whacko survivalist nut-job), but hers is now in the trunk of her car (she was insistent, and she added half a dozen extra magazines for her 9mm - what a woman). I assume there are people here that would be interested in building a bug-out bag (to survive in the event of a natural disaster, alien invasion, or zombie apocalypse, or those kinds of things), so I figured I'd give y'all a list of things to consider for your own bag (and regardless of who or where you are, or what you believe, you really should have one setup and ready to go).
- Backpack - a tough small backpack (you're interested in something you can carry on your back for up to five days)
- 100 feet of paracord
- Knife (with a serrated edge - a folding knife will be lighter and smaller)
- Thermal blankets (those silver mylar ones are extremely compact)
- Waterproof matches
- Fire-starter (essentially two pieces of flint that create a spark when scraped together)
- Chemlites (those green sticks that glow when you snap them)
- Aspirin (can be used in a pinch for wound care as well)
- Neosporin (a small tube should do)
- Box of bandaids
- Box of alchohol wipes (to clean wounds)
- Flashlight (a mini-lite will do - it's lighter and smaller - try to get one with an optional red lens cover)
- Compass (a lensatic compass would be best)
- Water filtration kit
- Ball cap (head covering of some kind may be important)
- Eye protection (googles would be best)
- Medical masks (at least half a dozen)
- Gloves (tough, and insulated)
- Street Map of your city (with possible rendezvous locations that all family members could possible find their way to)
- Topological map of your area
- A handheld CB radio (optional, but if you're in a group, or meeting a pre-dtermined rendezvous point, it could be handy if you become separated)
- Hearing protection (foam ear plugs w
Oh boy, it has been some time since I packed something like that. But I think you skipped some essentials like water. It may be heavy, but you cannot safely assume to simply find enough. And if you really want to prepare for nasty things, why not include one of those uncomfortable rubber masks, at least two sealed active coal filters and a watertight cape with a hood, just in case something really unhealthy rains down on you.
"Dark the dark side is. Very dark..." - Yoda ---
"Shut up, Yoda, and just make yourself another toast." - Obi Wan Kenobi -
My wife asked me last night what a "bug-out" bag was, and I explained that it's essentially a backpack containing enough equipment and supplies to sustain one person for a minimum of three days in the event that you needed to immediately and efficiently evacuate your current location on foot. My wife was subsequently surprised to find out that I had already built each of us one. In fact, I keep mine in the trunk of my car. I wasn't going to give my wife hers until it looked like she'd need it (I didn't want her to think I was a whacko survivalist nut-job), but hers is now in the trunk of her car (she was insistent, and she added half a dozen extra magazines for her 9mm - what a woman). I assume there are people here that would be interested in building a bug-out bag (to survive in the event of a natural disaster, alien invasion, or zombie apocalypse, or those kinds of things), so I figured I'd give y'all a list of things to consider for your own bag (and regardless of who or where you are, or what you believe, you really should have one setup and ready to go).
- Backpack - a tough small backpack (you're interested in something you can carry on your back for up to five days)
- 100 feet of paracord
- Knife (with a serrated edge - a folding knife will be lighter and smaller)
- Thermal blankets (those silver mylar ones are extremely compact)
- Waterproof matches
- Fire-starter (essentially two pieces of flint that create a spark when scraped together)
- Chemlites (those green sticks that glow when you snap them)
- Aspirin (can be used in a pinch for wound care as well)
- Neosporin (a small tube should do)
- Box of bandaids
- Box of alchohol wipes (to clean wounds)
- Flashlight (a mini-lite will do - it's lighter and smaller - try to get one with an optional red lens cover)
- Compass (a lensatic compass would be best)
- Water filtration kit
- Ball cap (head covering of some kind may be important)
- Eye protection (googles would be best)
- Medical masks (at least half a dozen)
- Gloves (tough, and insulated)
- Street Map of your city (with possible rendezvous locations that all family members could possible find their way to)
- Topological map of your area
- A handheld CB radio (optional, but if you're in a group, or meeting a pre-dtermined rendezvous point, it could be handy if you become separated)
- Hearing protection (foam ear plugs w
I'd suggest getting rid of the band aids and add in super glue. It works perfectly for closing open wounds. For those abrasions that are more spread out, nothing like a little gauze and cloth tape to go a long way and do a better job. Don’t forget about some type of water filtration / cleaning system to go with it. You can always find food, but clean water in a disaster…
Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.
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My wife asked me last night what a "bug-out" bag was, and I explained that it's essentially a backpack containing enough equipment and supplies to sustain one person for a minimum of three days in the event that you needed to immediately and efficiently evacuate your current location on foot. My wife was subsequently surprised to find out that I had already built each of us one. In fact, I keep mine in the trunk of my car. I wasn't going to give my wife hers until it looked like she'd need it (I didn't want her to think I was a whacko survivalist nut-job), but hers is now in the trunk of her car (she was insistent, and she added half a dozen extra magazines for her 9mm - what a woman). I assume there are people here that would be interested in building a bug-out bag (to survive in the event of a natural disaster, alien invasion, or zombie apocalypse, or those kinds of things), so I figured I'd give y'all a list of things to consider for your own bag (and regardless of who or where you are, or what you believe, you really should have one setup and ready to go).
- Backpack - a tough small backpack (you're interested in something you can carry on your back for up to five days)
- 100 feet of paracord
- Knife (with a serrated edge - a folding knife will be lighter and smaller)
- Thermal blankets (those silver mylar ones are extremely compact)
- Waterproof matches
- Fire-starter (essentially two pieces of flint that create a spark when scraped together)
- Chemlites (those green sticks that glow when you snap them)
- Aspirin (can be used in a pinch for wound care as well)
- Neosporin (a small tube should do)
- Box of bandaids
- Box of alchohol wipes (to clean wounds)
- Flashlight (a mini-lite will do - it's lighter and smaller - try to get one with an optional red lens cover)
- Compass (a lensatic compass would be best)
- Water filtration kit
- Ball cap (head covering of some kind may be important)
- Eye protection (googles would be best)
- Medical masks (at least half a dozen)
- Gloves (tough, and insulated)
- Street Map of your city (with possible rendezvous locations that all family members could possible find their way to)
- Topological map of your area
- A handheld CB radio (optional, but if you're in a group, or meeting a pre-dtermined rendezvous point, it could be handy if you become separated)
- Hearing protection (foam ear plugs w
Not on the same level as your excellent bug-out bag, but you might find this site interesting: EDC - Everyday Carry[^]
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Good point. I for one probably wouldn't check/rotate stock.
A girl phoned me and said, 'Come on over. There's nobody home.' I went over. Nobody was home! Rodney Dangerfield
Yup. That's half of why I have a case of boxed water in my trunk. The other half is that it's cheaper than buying and tossing a dozen+ sets of bottles over the same time span.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius
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Oh boy, it has been some time since I packed something like that. But I think you skipped some essentials like water. It may be heavy, but you cannot safely assume to simply find enough. And if you really want to prepare for nasty things, why not include one of those uncomfortable rubber masks, at least two sealed active coal filters and a watertight cape with a hood, just in case something really unhealthy rains down on you.
"Dark the dark side is. Very dark..." - Yoda ---
"Shut up, Yoda, and just make yourself another toast." - Obi Wan KenobiCDP1802 wrote:
Oh boy, it has been some time since I packed something like that.
... were you and all your cow-orkers wearing stylish mottled clothing at the time?
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius
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Oakman wrote:
If you're going to look for them, put your glasses on - where did you leave your glasses?
-doh- on top of my head. :) Bet that never happened to you?
A girl phoned me and said, 'Come on over. There's nobody home.' I went over. Nobody was home! Rodney Dangerfield
