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SQL Server, you are starting to annoy me

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  • L Lost User

    The Table designers allow you to edit the table's structure. So when you click print, what does it print: the actual saved definition or the one that appears in your screen (edited but not saved)? I agree that the tools must provide some other way to print the info, like right-click on a Table and click 'Print Definition' or something of that sort.

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    Print what's on the screen. You don't expect Word to print the document on disk, rather than the one in memory, do you?

    Software Zen: delete this;

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    • C CPallini

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      CPallini wrote:

      Welsh guy

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      knowledgeable

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        OK, Mr. AndyInEngland. :rolleyes:

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        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          Why the heck can't either SQL Server Management Studio or the VS SQL table designer print the table definition? They both show on screen exactly what I want: field name, type, size and null permitted, but print is greyed out! :mad: Why? How difficult can it be, when they will print anything else? Damn it, I'll just have to print a screen dump. Stupid, stupid, stupid. Sorry about that, I feel better now...

          Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

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          Steven J Jowett
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          Are you one of those people who want someone else to do all your work for you? I mean had Microsoft(in the head) actually provided this function for you, what else would you do with your time. More postings on CP I guess ;)

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          • S Steven J Jowett

            Are you one of those people who want someone else to do all your work for you? I mean had Microsoft(in the head) actually provided this function for you, what else would you do with your time. More postings on CP I guess ;)

            Steve Jowett ------------------------- Real Programmers don't need comments -- the code is obvious.

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            Steven J Jowett wrote:

            what else would you do with your time. More postings on CP I guess

            Doubtfull - I have to sleep sometimes... :laugh:

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            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              Steven J Jowett wrote:

              what else would you do with your time. More postings on CP I guess

              Doubtfull - I have to sleep sometimes... :laugh:

              Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

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              OriginalGriff wrote:

              I have to sleep sometimes

              There's plenty of time for that when your life-time warranty expires.

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                Thanks, I found that on t'interweb - I wasn't after an answer, I just wanted to release some frustration. :laugh: But seriously, why the heck not add it? It's a pretty obvious thing to want, I would have thought? Ah. This is Microsoft, I forgot. "If the user is likely to want it, they can go stuff themselves" - silly me! :-D

                Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

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                OriginalGriff wrote:

                "If the user is likely to want it, they can go stuff themselves"

                No, only if it makes sense and the majority want it; if it's stoopid and only a few users want it, they'll add it and turn it on by default.

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  Why the heck can't either SQL Server Management Studio or the VS SQL table designer print the table definition? They both show on screen exactly what I want: field name, type, size and null permitted, but print is greyed out! :mad: Why? How difficult can it be, when they will print anything else? Damn it, I'll just have to print a screen dump. Stupid, stupid, stupid. Sorry about that, I feel better now...

                  Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

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                  PIEBALDconsult
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                  That's why the DB tool I wrote has a DESCRIBE command.

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                  • N Nagy Vilmos

                    OriginalGriff wrote:

                    they can go stuff themselves stick their head in a pig

                    ftfy


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                    cooked pig? BACON!!!

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                    • G Gary Wheeler

                      Print what's on the screen. You don't expect Word to print the document on disk, rather than the one in memory, do you?

                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                      Lost User
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                      Gary Wheeler wrote:

                      Print what's on the screen.

                      And what if you don't save the new definition after printing?

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                      • L Lost User

                        Gary Wheeler wrote:

                        Print what's on the screen.

                        And what if you don't save the new definition after printing?

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                        Gary Wheeler
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                        It's no different from millions upon millions of other 'document' applications. In this case, the document is a descriptor for a data base. The user works with a document in memory: changing it, printing it, whatever. If they save it, fine; we modify the structure of the data base as they've specified. If they don't save it, so what? We did what they told us to do.

                        Software Zen: delete this;

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