Windows 8: Pushing hated UI elements
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Does anyone like the ribbon interface? My wife, decidedly non geek, curses Office 2010 every day she has to use it because of the ribbon. I can't stand it myself. It takes up too much room with the added benefit of making things harder to find. I'm glad I bought my first Mac.[^] Yeah, I said it.
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Does anyone like the ribbon interface? My wife, decidedly non geek, curses Office 2010 every day she has to use it because of the ribbon. I can't stand it myself. It takes up too much room with the added benefit of making things harder to find. I'm glad I bought my first Mac.[^] Yeah, I said it.
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That's because you are an accountant. Self-drying paint is exciting for you. ;P
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Does anyone like the ribbon interface? My wife, decidedly non geek, curses Office 2010 every day she has to use it because of the ribbon. I can't stand it myself. It takes up too much room with the added benefit of making things harder to find. I'm glad I bought my first Mac.[^] Yeah, I said it.
Being accustomed to menus for over a decade, I found ribbons too difficult to cope up with initially. But as I got used to it, I found that it is really a useful alternative for menus and toolbars. Almost all commands that are applicable to the current context are available right in front of you without the need to keep clicking and searching for items in a menu. You get the added advantage of less mouse clicks.
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Does anyone like the ribbon interface? My wife, decidedly non geek, curses Office 2010 every day she has to use it because of the ribbon. I can't stand it myself. It takes up too much room with the added benefit of making things harder to find. I'm glad I bought my first Mac.[^] Yeah, I said it.
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That's because you are an accountant. Self-drying paint is exciting for you. ;P
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| FoldWithUs! | sighist | WhoIncludes - Analyzing C++ include file hierarchyBest comment of the week (at least, possibly the month!) :)
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Being accustomed to menus for over a decade, I found ribbons too difficult to cope up with initially. But as I got used to it, I found that it is really a useful alternative for menus and toolbars. Almost all commands that are applicable to the current context are available right in front of you without the need to keep clicking and searching for items in a menu. You get the added advantage of less mouse clicks.
Shameel wrote:
Almost all commands that are applicable to the current context are available right in front of you without the need to keep clicking and searching for items in a menu. You get the added advantage of less mouse clicks.
I can see how that would be the idea, but in practice it seems to take me more mouse clicks than it used to. At least when I use Office, which is where I've used it the most. That screen shot of Explorer looks horrifying to me.
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Does anyone like the ribbon interface? My wife, decidedly non geek, curses Office 2010 every day she has to use it because of the ribbon. I can't stand it myself. It takes up too much room with the added benefit of making things harder to find. I'm glad I bought my first Mac.[^] Yeah, I said it.
David Kentley wrote:
Does anyone like the ribbon interface?
Didn't like it in the beginning, but now I like it.
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Does anyone like the ribbon interface? My wife, decidedly non geek, curses Office 2010 every day she has to use it because of the ribbon. I can't stand it myself. It takes up too much room with the added benefit of making things harder to find. I'm glad I bought my first Mac.[^] Yeah, I said it.
Used to them now but disliked them to start with. Still get peeved when I can't find a command quickly but once found I just add it to the top menu. Still, not sure it should be added to everything just because it can be. The menuing system wasn't really broke: why try to fix it?
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Does anyone like the ribbon interface? My wife, decidedly non geek, curses Office 2010 every day she has to use it because of the ribbon. I can't stand it myself. It takes up too much room with the added benefit of making things harder to find. I'm glad I bought my first Mac.[^] Yeah, I said it.
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Does anyone like the ribbon interface? My wife, decidedly non geek, curses Office 2010 every day she has to use it because of the ribbon. I can't stand it myself. It takes up too much room with the added benefit of making things harder to find. I'm glad I bought my first Mac.[^] Yeah, I said it.
It's OK. But I I think, from a novice's POV, the menu bar is superior. For example, it's easier to describe because it's *JUST* text. Once the person knows what "menu" is, there's a rigid hierarchy that is can be navigated in a predictable way. Plus it's easy to describe where to go, just by using text. With something like a ribbon it's a little tougher because it's so visual, it's layout can be customize, etc. The menu makes sense if you follow the Noun - Verb pattern that they were originally intended to follow.
¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow
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That's because you are an accountant. Self-drying paint is exciting for you. ;P
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Used to them now but disliked them to start with. Still get peeved when I can't find a command quickly but once found I just add it to the top menu. Still, not sure it should be added to everything just because it can be. The menuing system wasn't really broke: why try to fix it?
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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Shameel wrote:
Almost all commands that are applicable to the current context are available right in front of you without the need to keep clicking and searching for items in a menu. You get the added advantage of less mouse clicks.
I can see how that would be the idea, but in practice it seems to take me more mouse clicks than it used to. At least when I use Office, which is where I've used it the most. That screen shot of Explorer looks horrifying to me.
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David Kentley wrote:
That screen shot of Explorer looks horrifying to me.
There are situations in which a ribbon would not make sense. I wonder if the next version of Visual Studio would come with a ribbon interface.
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Does anyone like the ribbon interface? My wife, decidedly non geek, curses Office 2010 every day she has to use it because of the ribbon. I can't stand it myself. It takes up too much room with the added benefit of making things harder to find. I'm glad I bought my first Mac.[^] Yeah, I said it.
What's a ribbon interface? :-D Just looks like a slightly different toolbar to me, or maybe I just haven't had to use a fully ribbonised application yet? What bugs me about windows explorer was that they dropped the icon from the start menu and the quick launch toolbar in XP and screwed with the address bar in vista. I'm sure they'll find another way to really piss me off in 8.
Pete
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Does anyone like the ribbon interface? My wife, decidedly non geek, curses Office 2010 every day she has to use it because of the ribbon. I can't stand it myself. It takes up too much room with the added benefit of making things harder to find. I'm glad I bought my first Mac.[^] Yeah, I said it.
The Ribbon was introduced in Office 2007 because nearly all of the requests for new features in Word were for features that were already present. The team decided that they had so many commands, and that they were scattered in so many different places that a new approach would be needed for organising the menu options. They held an internal competition to find new ways of organising menus and the Ribbon was the one that was picked - primarily, I suspect, because it looks like a super toolbar, and users are already familiar with toolbars.
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Does anyone like the ribbon interface? My wife, decidedly non geek, curses Office 2010 every day she has to use it because of the ribbon. I can't stand it myself. It takes up too much room with the added benefit of making things harder to find. I'm glad I bought my first Mac.[^] Yeah, I said it.
I can work with it but to be honest I don't think it was really necessary. Some feature are just in the most unintuitive places: To change the data associated with a pivot table you would have thought that you click on the data tab.. Well guess what you have to click on the options tab and within this there is a data group - gets me most of the time...
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Does anyone like the ribbon interface? My wife, decidedly non geek, curses Office 2010 every day she has to use it because of the ribbon. I can't stand it myself. It takes up too much room with the added benefit of making things harder to find. I'm glad I bought my first Mac.[^] Yeah, I said it.
Embrace the ribbon. BE THE RIBBON!
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That's because you are an accountant. Self-drying paint is exciting for you. ;P
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| FoldWithUs! | sighist | WhoIncludes - Analyzing C++ include file hierarchypeterchen wrote:
Self-drying paint
Is there another kind of paint?
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