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  • A Andrew Peace

    Hey guys, Sorry to bother you with this, I know this isn't the most appropriate place to post it but I was hoping someone would be able to steer me in the right direction. Here's the problem: I have two computers: a laptop on XP Pro with a built in 10/100 ethernet adapter that I know is fine 'cause I had it networked to another XP box about five hours ago, and a Windows 2000 box with same network card in as the XP one. The problem is, I cannot get the 2000 box and the laptop to talk to each other. I've tried manually setting the IP address, getting it to do it automatically, and everything else that I can think of but to no avail. The XP box shows a load of sent packets (about 222 after attempting to do some pinging), but no matter what I do the sent packets thing on the 2k box shows 0 sent/received packets. The computers won't resolve each others names, nor will pinging them directly with their IP addresses work either. Does anyone know of a cure, or can anyone step me through a basic setup procedure for linking the 2k and XP boxes? It's driving me crazy, I had this working on the XP box with the same laptop so why won't it work on 2k? Thanks guys! -- Andrew.

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    Shog9 0
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    Oh for Rendezvous... :rolleyes: It *could* be a bad network card... Otherwise, i've never had any trouble just using two IPs in the same subnet for a quick hookup. Can you test the 2k machine against something else?

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      Andrew, You kinda left some important information out. First, are you connecting both computers to a hub/switch? If not, then you must be connecting from one ethernet card to the other. If that is so, you need a cross-over cable (which is pretty much a cable with (side 1) tx linked with (side 2) rx and vice versa). If you are connecting to a hub, then it should be fine with a regular ethernet cable. Second, make sure they are communicating on the same protocols. In fact, make sure that TCP/IP and Microsoft Networks are the only setting enabled. Well, that's all I can think of right now, but if you give more details, I might be able to give you more information. Frank http://www.frankliao.com

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      Andrew Peace
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      Hi Frank, Thanks for your help. The two computers are connected directly to one another, and I'm using a crossover cable as you said. The two computers are connected via TCP/IP and this and the Windows Network Client are the only two things enabled (I had File and Printer sharing on at one point too but disabled it in case that was causing a problem). Will keep you informed :-). -- Andrew.

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        Oh for Rendezvous... :rolleyes: It *could* be a bad network card... Otherwise, i've never had any trouble just using two IPs in the same subnet for a quick hookup. Can you test the 2k machine against something else?

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        Shog9 The siren sings a lonely song - of all the wants and hungers The lust of love a brute desire - the ledge of life goes under

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        Andrew Peace
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        Hey Shog, Just gonna try swapping out the netowrk card for a different one now, I never thought of that (d'oh - stupid me :-)). I have a PCMCIA card on another laptop but it's got Win98 on and refuses to install the drivers correctly. Oh well... Thanks for you help, will keep you informed :-D! -- Andrew.

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          Hey Shog, Just gonna try swapping out the netowrk card for a different one now, I never thought of that (d'oh - stupid me :-)). I have a PCMCIA card on another laptop but it's got Win98 on and refuses to install the drivers correctly. Oh well... Thanks for you help, will keep you informed :-D! -- Andrew.

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          Nish Nishant
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          Also try ping the IPs from the same machine. Like try pinging the XP laptop's IP from the XP laptop. Just to see if the n/w card and/or it's driver is okay :-) Nish


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            Also try ping the IPs from the same machine. Like try pinging the XP laptop's IP from the XP laptop. Just to see if the n/w card and/or it's driver is okay :-) Nish


            Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]

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            Jorgen Sigvardsson
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            I doubt the IP ping packets are forwarded to the ethernet layer. My bet is that it's trapped somewhere in the middle of the IP layer. :) -- Only in a world this shitty could you even try to say these were innocent people and keep a straight face.

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            • A Andrew Peace

              Hey guys, Sorry to bother you with this, I know this isn't the most appropriate place to post it but I was hoping someone would be able to steer me in the right direction. Here's the problem: I have two computers: a laptop on XP Pro with a built in 10/100 ethernet adapter that I know is fine 'cause I had it networked to another XP box about five hours ago, and a Windows 2000 box with same network card in as the XP one. The problem is, I cannot get the 2000 box and the laptop to talk to each other. I've tried manually setting the IP address, getting it to do it automatically, and everything else that I can think of but to no avail. The XP box shows a load of sent packets (about 222 after attempting to do some pinging), but no matter what I do the sent packets thing on the 2k box shows 0 sent/received packets. The computers won't resolve each others names, nor will pinging them directly with their IP addresses work either. Does anyone know of a cure, or can anyone step me through a basic setup procedure for linking the 2k and XP boxes? It's driving me crazy, I had this working on the XP box with the same laptop so why won't it work on 2k? Thanks guys! -- Andrew.

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              David Cunningham
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              Andrew Peace wrote: but no matter what I do the sent packets thing on the 2k box shows 0 sent/received packets. This could and probably does imply a IRQ problem, you might want to double check your settings. David

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              • A Andrew Peace

                Hey guys, Sorry to bother you with this, I know this isn't the most appropriate place to post it but I was hoping someone would be able to steer me in the right direction. Here's the problem: I have two computers: a laptop on XP Pro with a built in 10/100 ethernet adapter that I know is fine 'cause I had it networked to another XP box about five hours ago, and a Windows 2000 box with same network card in as the XP one. The problem is, I cannot get the 2000 box and the laptop to talk to each other. I've tried manually setting the IP address, getting it to do it automatically, and everything else that I can think of but to no avail. The XP box shows a load of sent packets (about 222 after attempting to do some pinging), but no matter what I do the sent packets thing on the 2k box shows 0 sent/received packets. The computers won't resolve each others names, nor will pinging them directly with their IP addresses work either. Does anyone know of a cure, or can anyone step me through a basic setup procedure for linking the 2k and XP boxes? It's driving me crazy, I had this working on the XP box with the same laptop so why won't it work on 2k? Thanks guys! -- Andrew.

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                One other thing to check after ensuring the first three parts of the IP Address are the same and that the subnet mask on both machines are identical is to check the Workgroup. I know that IP Addresses and pinging don't care about this but I have been caught out getting my wifes old laptop and my new desktop to talk to each other a couple of months ago. Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002

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                • A Andrew Peace

                  Hey guys, Sorry to bother you with this, I know this isn't the most appropriate place to post it but I was hoping someone would be able to steer me in the right direction. Here's the problem: I have two computers: a laptop on XP Pro with a built in 10/100 ethernet adapter that I know is fine 'cause I had it networked to another XP box about five hours ago, and a Windows 2000 box with same network card in as the XP one. The problem is, I cannot get the 2000 box and the laptop to talk to each other. I've tried manually setting the IP address, getting it to do it automatically, and everything else that I can think of but to no avail. The XP box shows a load of sent packets (about 222 after attempting to do some pinging), but no matter what I do the sent packets thing on the 2k box shows 0 sent/received packets. The computers won't resolve each others names, nor will pinging them directly with their IP addresses work either. Does anyone know of a cure, or can anyone step me through a basic setup procedure for linking the 2k and XP boxes? It's driving me crazy, I had this working on the XP box with the same laptop so why won't it work on 2k? Thanks guys! -- Andrew.

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                  Paul Oss
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                  You didn't mention a hub, so you may have a crossover cable problem- a common occurence. Paul

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                  • A Andrew Peace

                    Hey guys, Sorry to bother you with this, I know this isn't the most appropriate place to post it but I was hoping someone would be able to steer me in the right direction. Here's the problem: I have two computers: a laptop on XP Pro with a built in 10/100 ethernet adapter that I know is fine 'cause I had it networked to another XP box about five hours ago, and a Windows 2000 box with same network card in as the XP one. The problem is, I cannot get the 2000 box and the laptop to talk to each other. I've tried manually setting the IP address, getting it to do it automatically, and everything else that I can think of but to no avail. The XP box shows a load of sent packets (about 222 after attempting to do some pinging), but no matter what I do the sent packets thing on the 2k box shows 0 sent/received packets. The computers won't resolve each others names, nor will pinging them directly with their IP addresses work either. Does anyone know of a cure, or can anyone step me through a basic setup procedure for linking the 2k and XP boxes? It's driving me crazy, I had this working on the XP box with the same laptop so why won't it work on 2k? Thanks guys! -- Andrew.

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                    Thierry Marneffe
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                    Hi D you run a FireWall on your computers ? If yes, don't forget to the the permissions for both TCP/IP addresses ... HTH Thierry

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                    • L Lost User

                      One other thing to check after ensuring the first three parts of the IP Address are the same and that the subnet mask on both machines are identical is to check the Workgroup. I know that IP Addresses and pinging don't care about this but I have been caught out getting my wifes old laptop and my new desktop to talk to each other a couple of months ago. Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002

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                      Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                      Ping does adhere to submasks. It's ICMP over IP, and everything on IP adheres to submasks, routes, etc. :) -- Only in a world this shitty could you even try to say these were innocent people and keep a straight face.

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