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  • W wizardzz

    So I have had a leaky bathroom for 4+ years, last time the landlord fixed it, I called because water was coming out of the electrical socket. Now, about 2 months later, there is a crackling sound coming from the socket, and I think water is leaking into it. I called the landlord and left a message, I also called the city and they will send an inspector sometime soon. They told me that if I see or smell smoke, to call the fire department. I'm at work, but Miss Wizardzz is home, is there any other precaution to take besides cutting the breaker to the bathroom? Can this kind of short cause a nasty fire within the wall? update: I'm not home, but Miss W is too afraid of spiders to go to the breaker switch in the basement. The crackling has stopped. Landlord is sending "electrician" now (which likely means unlicensed, non English speaking brother of their "plumber").

    "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.

    modified on Thursday, September 1, 2011 10:27 AM

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    If you value Mizz Wizz, then SWITCH THE FROGIN POWER OFF!


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    • B Bergholt Stuttley Johnson

      i guess its not enough question marks as I count zero, 0, none, all i see are exclamation marks!!!!!

      You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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      That's Ali's main concern: She does not ask, she simply does it.

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      • H hairy_hats

        I read somewhere sometime that more people die from accidental electrocutions in the US than the UK because the lower 110V mains supply doesn't give you such a jolt.

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        Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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        possibly, I know few are killed by 415v mainly because anyone using it knows that it WILL kill whilst 220v is just likely to and 110 could possibly

        You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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        • B Bergholt Stuttley Johnson

          i guess its not enough question marks as I count zero, 0, none, all i see are exclamation marks!!!!!

          You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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          Bergholt Stuttley Johnson wrote:

          guess its not enough question marks as I count zero

          Oh b******ks! :rolleyes: I'll have to edit it, don't tell anyone else and I might get away with it! :~ :-D

          Ali

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          • W wizardzz

            So I have had a leaky bathroom for 4+ years, last time the landlord fixed it, I called because water was coming out of the electrical socket. Now, about 2 months later, there is a crackling sound coming from the socket, and I think water is leaking into it. I called the landlord and left a message, I also called the city and they will send an inspector sometime soon. They told me that if I see or smell smoke, to call the fire department. I'm at work, but Miss Wizardzz is home, is there any other precaution to take besides cutting the breaker to the bathroom? Can this kind of short cause a nasty fire within the wall? update: I'm not home, but Miss W is too afraid of spiders to go to the breaker switch in the basement. The crackling has stopped. Landlord is sending "electrician" now (which likely means unlicensed, non English speaking brother of their "plumber").

            "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.

            modified on Thursday, September 1, 2011 10:27 AM

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            Take a seat and a beer, turn on every electrical device you may think of, and watch the show.

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              viaducting wrote:

              See title.

              .... aaaaahhhh, I'm stuck in a never ending loop for all eternity!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Thinks: Is that enough question exclamation marks? .... No] !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! byeeee!

              Ali

              modified on Thursday, September 1, 2011 11:09 AM

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              Alison P wrote:

              exclaimation

              FTFY ( I know, the error in the edition of the error makes it even worse *gnark*).

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              • B Bergholt Stuttley Johnson

                hes american so on 110v so he may not be able to tell with that wimpy voltage, but then again the houses over there seem to be made from 2x2 and plaster board so maybe not having electricity anywhere near them may be a good idea

                You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                wizardzz
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                This shit shack was built in the 1880's, mostly held up by paint, wall papers, and asbestos.

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                • W wizardzz

                  So I have had a leaky bathroom for 4+ years, last time the landlord fixed it, I called because water was coming out of the electrical socket. Now, about 2 months later, there is a crackling sound coming from the socket, and I think water is leaking into it. I called the landlord and left a message, I also called the city and they will send an inspector sometime soon. They told me that if I see or smell smoke, to call the fire department. I'm at work, but Miss Wizardzz is home, is there any other precaution to take besides cutting the breaker to the bathroom? Can this kind of short cause a nasty fire within the wall? update: I'm not home, but Miss W is too afraid of spiders to go to the breaker switch in the basement. The crackling has stopped. Landlord is sending "electrician" now (which likely means unlicensed, non English speaking brother of their "plumber").

                  "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.

                  modified on Thursday, September 1, 2011 10:27 AM

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                  RC_Sebastien_C
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                  Fear of spiders, though unpleasant, is not her biggest problem right now! Edit: And if the landlord sends an "electrician" instead of an electrician to inspect, have a real one come and inspect ASAP.

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                    Take a seat and a beer, turn on every electrical device you may think of, and watch the show.

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                    Nagy Vilmos
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                    That is very bad advice. But funny on so many levels. :laugh:


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                    • W wizardzz

                      So I have had a leaky bathroom for 4+ years, last time the landlord fixed it, I called because water was coming out of the electrical socket. Now, about 2 months later, there is a crackling sound coming from the socket, and I think water is leaking into it. I called the landlord and left a message, I also called the city and they will send an inspector sometime soon. They told me that if I see or smell smoke, to call the fire department. I'm at work, but Miss Wizardzz is home, is there any other precaution to take besides cutting the breaker to the bathroom? Can this kind of short cause a nasty fire within the wall? update: I'm not home, but Miss W is too afraid of spiders to go to the breaker switch in the basement. The crackling has stopped. Landlord is sending "electrician" now (which likely means unlicensed, non English speaking brother of their "plumber").

                      "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.

                      modified on Thursday, September 1, 2011 10:27 AM

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                      Albert Holguin
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                      Breaker is supposed to help prevent a fire due to a short, assuming it works correctly and the wires are the correct size (a lot of assumptions)... but I wouldn't risk it. Turn off the power until it gets checked out.

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                      • J Jim Crafton

                        wizardzz wrote:

                        I called because water was coming out of the electrical socket.

                        Wow now there's some serious comedic material right there! I suppose that's better than water going *into* the socket? :rolleyes:

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                        Steve Maier
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                        I know that I have seen this on the Three Stooges, and I think that even Mr. Bean might have had it once. Good Luck with the repairs.

                        Steve Maier

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                        • W wizardzz

                          So I have had a leaky bathroom for 4+ years, last time the landlord fixed it, I called because water was coming out of the electrical socket. Now, about 2 months later, there is a crackling sound coming from the socket, and I think water is leaking into it. I called the landlord and left a message, I also called the city and they will send an inspector sometime soon. They told me that if I see or smell smoke, to call the fire department. I'm at work, but Miss Wizardzz is home, is there any other precaution to take besides cutting the breaker to the bathroom? Can this kind of short cause a nasty fire within the wall? update: I'm not home, but Miss W is too afraid of spiders to go to the breaker switch in the basement. The crackling has stopped. Landlord is sending "electrician" now (which likely means unlicensed, non English speaking brother of their "plumber").

                          "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.

                          modified on Thursday, September 1, 2011 10:27 AM

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                          wizardzz wrote:

                          Miss W is too afraid of spiders to go to the breaker switch in the basement.

                          Death and/or the loss of all your possessions vs. spiders. :doh:

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                            possibly, I know few are killed by 415v mainly because anyone using it knows that it WILL kill whilst 220v is just likely to and 110 could possibly

                            You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                            Bergholt Stuttley Johnson wrote:

                            possibly, I know few are killed by 415v
                            mainly because anyone using it knows that it WILL kill whilst 220v is just likely to and 110 could possibly

                            I think it's less knowledge than accessibility, most fatalities are from 110/220V because those are the only major AC voltages your average person is likely to be fiddling with. I've been told 440V is the most dangerous common US voltage because lesser ones aren't likely to kill anyone before they have a chance to escape/have someone else throw the breaker, and higher ones (>=880?) will generally throw you before a lethal amount of current flows through your body. 440 isn't enough to throw you, but will lock your muscles and fry you before a bystander can intervene.

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                            • W wizardzz

                              This shit shack was built in the 1880's, mostly held up by paint, wall papers, and asbestos.

                              "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.

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                              Roger Wright
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                              wizardzz wrote:

                              mostly held up by paint, wall papers, and asbestos

                              Don't forget the spider webs... very strong, very important in older houses!

                              Will Rogers never met me.

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                                Alison P wrote:

                                exclaimation

                                FTFY ( I know, the error in the edition of the error makes it even worse *gnark*).

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                                Rage wrote:

                                FTFY

                                FTFY FFS! :rolleyes: I blame it on a lack of chocolate or other coco based products! :-D

                                Ali

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                                  This shit shack was built in the 1880's, mostly held up by paint, wall papers, and asbestos.

                                  "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.

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                                  You forgot to mention that the only reason it is still standing is that the woodworm are all holding hands...

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                                    wizardzz wrote:

                                    mostly held up by paint, wall papers, and asbestos

                                    Don't forget the spider webs... very strong, very important in older houses!

                                    Will Rogers never met me.

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                                    Stalactites and stalagmites, I can assume we have those, too.

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                                      Rage wrote:

                                      FTFY

                                      FTFY FFS! :rolleyes: I blame it on a lack of chocolate or other coco based products! :-D

                                      Ali

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                                      Rage
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                                      Lack of chocolate ? If I read correctly below, I see that some digestive chocolates have passed away discretely in your stomach... Did you mean cocoa, or are you also a coconut fan ?

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                                        So I have had a leaky bathroom for 4+ years, last time the landlord fixed it, I called because water was coming out of the electrical socket. Now, about 2 months later, there is a crackling sound coming from the socket, and I think water is leaking into it. I called the landlord and left a message, I also called the city and they will send an inspector sometime soon. They told me that if I see or smell smoke, to call the fire department. I'm at work, but Miss Wizardzz is home, is there any other precaution to take besides cutting the breaker to the bathroom? Can this kind of short cause a nasty fire within the wall? update: I'm not home, but Miss W is too afraid of spiders to go to the breaker switch in the basement. The crackling has stopped. Landlord is sending "electrician" now (which likely means unlicensed, non English speaking brother of their "plumber").

                                        "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.

                                        modified on Thursday, September 1, 2011 10:27 AM

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                                        wizardzz wrote:

                                        Landlord is sending "electrician" now (which likely means unlicensed, non English speaking brother of their "plumber").

                                        Even though you do not own the home, your paying rent does give you certain rights. One of those being that you can request only a licensed and insured electrician do any and all electrical work. If the person that the landlord sends over is both, you'll just have to deal with it. Otherwise, find your own qualified electrican that the landlord also agree with.

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                                        • H hairy_hats

                                          I read somewhere sometime that more people die from accidental electrocutions in the US than the UK because the lower 110V mains supply doesn't give you such a jolt.

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                                          Voltage does not actually cause the deaths but the Amps. It takes about 100mA to stop your heart. Granted Voltage and Current are proportionally connected, the fact is High Voltage does not mean death (resistance could also be very high, different wirring etc.) There are devices out there that actually run on extremly high voltages but have virtually no current capability and are therefore harmless (other than they may give you a 'shock').

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