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  • A Andy Brummer

    Are there really any good 3D visualizations out there for much of anything? I'm not sure we are all that good at processing 3D data. I can't really think of anything that isn't more than 2D with perspective. If there is, then I'm sure you can find something on Visual Complexity[^], or http://www.visualizing.org/[^]

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    Jim Crafton
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    Probably not. I was necessarily thinking practically. See my latest post [^]- is that something you might be interested in?

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      I wish I had some of that modelling skill, even at the price of being considered crazy. The way it is, I can write good 3D code and nobody really gives a damn because my models look too tacky :)

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      Jim Crafton
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      Well you can always write code that created stuff procedurally? That's what Houdini is good for. Check out this post[^] That's something that would be done procedurally, with 3D code. Would that interest you?

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      • S Steve Mayfield

        it takes a boatload of pressure to turn carbon based nuggets into diamonds :rolleyes:

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        Jim Crafton
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        Hence the suggestion to see a doctor! The poor guy could end up exploding his frontal lobes from the sheer strain of trying to pass a 24ct nugget!

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        • J Jim Crafton

          Anyone ever seen (or written themselves) a program that analyzes some source code (doesn't matter what language) and then produces some sort of 3D result? I'm not sure what the result would actually be but I would suspect that some interesting patterns would show up. I'm looking for something like this and was just curious if anyone else has thought of this.

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          kware
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          I definitely think it would be worth doing! I've had the idea myself and even plan on doing it myself. but since I don't know when that will be, I think it would be great if someone else were to do it.

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          • A Andy Brummer

            Are there really any good 3D visualizations out there for much of anything? I'm not sure we are all that good at processing 3D data. I can't really think of anything that isn't more than 2D with perspective. If there is, then I'm sure you can find something on Visual Complexity[^], or http://www.visualizing.org/[^]

            Curvature of the Mind now with 3D

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            Jonathan C Dickinson
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            Clearly you haven't seen AudioGL[^]. It's unrelated, but it does demonstrate that 3D can be better, if done in a clever way.

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            • J Jim Crafton

              Anyone ever seen (or written themselves) a program that analyzes some source code (doesn't matter what language) and then produces some sort of 3D result? I'm not sure what the result would actually be but I would suspect that some interesting patterns would show up. I'm looking for something like this and was just curious if anyone else has thought of this.

              ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow

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              all_in_flames
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              This may not be technically exactly like what you described, but it is in the same vein: 'Tilt' Firefox plugin[^] I tried it out, it's pretty neat. Helps to visualize the layers of markup containers and elements in the DOM of a particular webpage. Cheers!

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              • J Jim Crafton

                Anyone ever seen (or written themselves) a program that analyzes some source code (doesn't matter what language) and then produces some sort of 3D result? I'm not sure what the result would actually be but I would suspect that some interesting patterns would show up. I'm looking for something like this and was just curious if anyone else has thought of this.

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                Stefan_Lang
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                I can see it right in front of me: the app analyzes a program full of bugs and renders it in 3D like a scene from Starship Troopers. Now, if I can have a 3D version of Denise Richards helping me shoo... err fix the bugs, that would be :cool: At the very least it would be a great improvement to Clippy ;)

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                • P Pete OHanlon

                  Sounds cool. I can see it having some benefit if you were trying to perform analytics on it, e.g. comparing KLOCS I/L to KLOCS of code and manipulating down to the individual method level.

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                  BrainiacV
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                  Yeah, the code should look like those images from the movie 'Hackers' ! Lemmee fire up my Flight Simulator and take a drive around it... :laugh:

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                  • J Jim Crafton

                    Anyone ever seen (or written themselves) a program that analyzes some source code (doesn't matter what language) and then produces some sort of 3D result? I'm not sure what the result would actually be but I would suspect that some interesting patterns would show up. I'm looking for something like this and was just curious if anyone else has thought of this.

                    ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow

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                    Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                    Sounds like a Windows Media Player visualisation. If you can design and/or write one which is actually useful, we'll happily integrate it into Visual Lint. ;P

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                    • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

                      Sounds like a Windows Media Player visualisation. If you can design and/or write one which is actually useful, we'll happily integrate it into Visual Lint. ;P

                      Anna :rose: Tech Blog | Visual Lint "Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"

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                      Jim Crafton
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                      :) Thanks, but I was hoping to find something out there. I'm not really sure what would even make sense.

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                      • J Jim Crafton

                        :) Thanks, but I was hoping to find something out there. I'm not really sure what would even make sense.

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                        Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                        No worries. :) Seriously though - if you can think of a way of presenting data which would help you to visualise the results (not an easy task we know), we're happy to have a crack at implementing something - at least as a proof of concept.

                        Anna :rose: Tech Blog | Visual Lint "Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"

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                        • G GParkings

                          what would the 3 axis represent? Memory usage, cpu time, clock time? or i suppose you could start with a 2D UML diagram and then simply extrude out a shape on the 3rd axis by a single variable, such as a class diagram with height of class blocks determined by lines of code (which in turn could be 'displaced' by lines of code in each method).

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                          andy_p
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                          how about proper 3d uml class diagrams? If I could extend diagrams into a third dimension I could finally draw them without any of the lines crossing. I like the idea of moving the viewpoint around in 3d to see the structure from different angles, too.

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                          • J Jim Crafton

                            Anyone ever seen (or written themselves) a program that analyzes some source code (doesn't matter what language) and then produces some sort of 3D result? I'm not sure what the result would actually be but I would suspect that some interesting patterns would show up. I'm looking for something like this and was just curious if anyone else has thought of this.

                            ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow

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                            Try the firefox exension: Tilt.

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