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What difference does it make to you, Christian, since you believe the baby is damned to hell unless he joins your little cult?
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
As previously noted, you are a tosser and this forum exists solely because you like to pick fights with people to inflate your ego. As to the gist of your comment, yes, I am a Christian. My belief in an afterlife does not mean that I would have no concern for the well being of people who choose not to take part in 'my little cult' ( aka Christianity ), nor does it mean that I think I'm better than anyone else.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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_Josh_ wrote:
You don't have to be wrong
Although in this case he IS wrong about point 2: "Michelle Bachman's husband makes his living deprogramming gays." Firstly, it cannot be done, at least not as human society currently stands. Not with prayers, not with Bible passages, not with 'Christian counselling'... Secondly, since Oakman finds reality unconvincing, and since he's so comically supportive of the Bachmanns, Marcus Bachmann himself has denied that that's what they do there.
hi.............what happen..
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Ah, what happened between us Oakman?
Nothing dear..
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Nothing dear..
Rakesh Meel wrote:
Nothing dear..
Don't call me that.
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Nothing dear..
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hi.............what happen..
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The key word is "belief" If any researcher in any field has a belief and then selects data, or creates it wholesale, in order to "prove" his belief then he is no scientist, he is a hack. I am quite sure that there are researchers who believe that sexuality is determined genetically, and those who believe that it is determined totally by environment. The ones I think should be doing the research are the ones who don't have beliefs, simply an open mind. I, for one, have no idea, what makes someone homosexual. Equally, I have no idea whether we are actually in a period of global warming or not. I, really don't care whether someone is a homosexual, though I despise whiny little queens and butches who run around making their sexual preference the be-all and end-all of their existence. And it seems to me that if we are dealing with global warming, we need to do what we can to adapt to it rather than use it as an excuse to transfer wealth from the West to the East.
ict558 wrote:
What an 'agenda' driven world we live in.
I agree, it sucks.
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
belief: Conviction of the truth of some statement or the reality of some phenomenon, especially when based on the examination of evidence. open-minded: Receptive to new and different ideas or the opinions of others. These are not mutually exclusive. When I get new evidence I change my mind. What do you do? - John Maynard Keynes.
Oakman wrote:
If any researcher in any field has a belief and then selects data, or creates it wholesale, in order to "prove" his belief then he is no scientist
Scientific researchers propose hypotheses as explanations of phenomena, and design experimental studies to test these hypotheses via predictions which can be derived from them. These steps must be repeatable, to guard against [fabrication,] mistake or confusion in any particular experimenter. - Wikipaedia (My insert - Wiki thinks no evil. :) ) Thus, a researcher who selects data, or creates it wholesale, in order to 'prove' a hypothesis is not being scientific. The presence or absence of a 'belief' is immaterial. (Think Dr. Wakefield and the MMR vaccine. He was well aware that children in his study had exhibited the symptoms that he implied to vaccination before they had been vaccinated. No 'belief' there; an agenda, certainly.) Which is why the refusal to release data and methods to those who 'only wish to prove us wrong' is unscientific, and those who refuse to release them cannot be considered fully to be scientists. (The data published by Dr. Wakefield in his paper were at variance with the subjects' medical records. A first step to bringing him to justice.)
Be dogmatic, not thoughtful. It's easier, and you get bumper stickers.- Anon.
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First of all, I don't care if you're gay or not, or who is or isn't gay. I don't think it can be 'cured' or that it's a choice people make. There's no evidence for that, whatsoever. Have you read the book 'Brainsex' ? It's the first book that I can find that posited that homosexuality is not genetic, but occurs in the womb as the brain is 'sexed', the brain and body start female, and three shots of testosterone during development, make you male. These people have done experiments proving with rats that if you mess with that process, you can repeatably make homosexual mice, male and female ( depending on which shots you do and don't allow ). I've talked about this before and been shouted down, on the basis that people assume I am suggesting people test their babies to see if they are gay. As it turns out, this is probably possible, but I'm not advocating it. I'm just pointing out what the science seems to indicate. I feel like I should clarify, as Oakman is about and trying to pick a fight. 'First book I can find', means I've read this in a number of books that describe different evidence for the theory, but this is the earliest book I've read that describes it.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
modified on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 3:25 AM
Interesting. Now I see how one can be "born gay" but not have it be due to genetics. The process you describe makes me wonder if there's a way to reverse it or treat it. Some sort of "gene therapy" kind of thing. I'll see if I can find the book you mention...
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun -
Interesting. Now I see how one can be "born gay" but not have it be due to genetics. The process you describe makes me wonder if there's a way to reverse it or treat it. Some sort of "gene therapy" kind of thing. I'll see if I can find the book you mention...
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von BraunIt would theoretically be possible to track what testosterone a baby got in the womb. There's no way you could 'treat' it, because once the brain is sexed, that's it. Shots of testosterone after the window of time closes, do nothing. And, the fact that this appears to be true, does not mean that anyone is looking to 'treat' anything. This is why people get upset when I say this, they assume that I'm suggesting we look for a way to stop it. Also, the book notes that a woman's body is more likely to get this 'wrong' during times of stress. So, Hitler hated gay people, but the war he started probably caused more of them to exist :0)
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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As previously noted, you are a tosser and this forum exists solely because you like to pick fights with people to inflate your ego. As to the gist of your comment, yes, I am a Christian. My belief in an afterlife does not mean that I would have no concern for the well being of people who choose not to take part in 'my little cult' ( aka Christianity ), nor does it mean that I think I'm better than anyone else.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
As previously noted, you are a tosser and this forum exists solely because you like to pick fights with people to inflate your ego.
Has he always been this much of a dick or is it a relatively recent thing? :confused:
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Christian Graus wrote:
As previously noted, you are a tosser and this forum exists solely because you like to pick fights with people to inflate your ego.
Has he always been this much of a dick or is it a relatively recent thing? :confused:
When he asked for the back room to be created, it was because of CSS, and seemed quite valid. Having his own forum got to his head, I left it not long after. I've not kept track since then.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.