The PC is dead. No! Don't listen to him, the Tablet is dead.
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I almost yearn for a return to the ol' DOS / Windows separation. We could use a nice simple and light OS with a platform specific UI on top. Desktop metaphors do not work on a tablet and vice-versa. Tablets are great when you are mostly reading and on the move, mobile browsing, the odd film, that stiff. PC's are great when you are doing a lot of input, you need a proper keyboard and mouse. Until someone builds a decent nrain/machine interface with no need to type/point/click the need for two distinct styles will remain.
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Nagy Vilmos wrote:
Tablets are great when you are mostly reading and on the move, mobile browsing, the odd film, that stiff.
Surely if you are that Stiff, you don't need tablets?
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Nagy Vilmos wrote:
Tablets are great when you are mostly reading and on the move, mobile browsing, the odd film, that stiff.
Surely if you are that Stiff, you don't need tablets?
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]
maybe that's WHY he needs the tablet? Private viewing.
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It gets harder and harder to decide who is right. :-D After reading this[^] from today's The Insider[^]. I realised that I had read "I am fed up with tablets", or the equivalent, for the umpteenth time in the last couple of days. I don't own a Tablet (except for a few Paracetamol) so cannot comment but I was wondering if those of you that do have them have become disenchanted and rarely use them any more. Are they the 'Breville' of IT, destined to reside in the cupboard-under-the-stairs of computing?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
I snagged a touchpad during the firesale. After a few days of puttering around it's been gathering dust. I'm waiting for the android port to be finished before I make a final decision; but it's probably going up on fleabay to finance an eInk kindle purchase. The biggest dealbreaker I found is that the angle for comfortable viewing and comfortable typing are mutually exclusive so that balancing it anywhere to pseudotouchtype means getting a crick in my neck. The screen protector I put on it is doing a much better job of hiding greasy fingerprint yuck than any of the others I've used but it's still annoying. Finally it's reader app isn't as easy to use as the kindle, and while lighter than the windows slate I fiddled with last year it's still heavy enough that when reading a book it needs to be rested on something. A paperback or kindle otoh is light enough to hold any which way while reading without difficulty.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
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maybe that's WHY he needs the tablet? Private viewing.
Programming is a race between programmers trying to build bigger and better idiot proof programs, and the universe trying to build bigger and better idiots, so far... the universe is winning. Be careful which toes you step on today, they might be connected to the foot that kicks your butt tomorrow. You can't scare me, I have children.
Yep. Saves having to buy a stand too.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
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It gets harder and harder to decide who is right. :-D After reading this[^] from today's The Insider[^]. I realised that I had read "I am fed up with tablets", or the equivalent, for the umpteenth time in the last couple of days. I don't own a Tablet (except for a few Paracetamol) so cannot comment but I was wondering if those of you that do have them have become disenchanted and rarely use them any more. Are they the 'Breville' of IT, destined to reside in the cupboard-under-the-stairs of computing?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
No tablet, but I use the hell out of my netbook.
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It gets harder and harder to decide who is right. :-D After reading this[^] from today's The Insider[^]. I realised that I had read "I am fed up with tablets", or the equivalent, for the umpteenth time in the last couple of days. I don't own a Tablet (except for a few Paracetamol) so cannot comment but I was wondering if those of you that do have them have become disenchanted and rarely use them any more. Are they the 'Breville' of IT, destined to reside in the cupboard-under-the-stairs of computing?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
I don't use my Transformer ALL the time, but it has its uses, particularly since I don't have/want a smart phone... If I can find a seat on the subway (Ha!) or something to lean against (So I can use both hands instead of holding onto a pole*), I can play games during my commute... When I go to my board gaming group, there are some scoring apps that can be really convenient... When I go out of town with friends, I can make use of its GPS and directions (Everything is cached, so no need for 3G)... I also like to proof-read my novels on it, though I've decided to keep writing on my old netbook, as the word processor in Android (Polaris Office) isn't good for speed. Of course, if I'm at home and want to play some games, do I pick up my tablet? No way! That's what my Phenom II with the crossfired Radeons is for :) * For the jokers among us, this is your entry point**. ** And for the meta-jokers, start there.
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It gets harder and harder to decide who is right. :-D After reading this[^] from today's The Insider[^]. I realised that I had read "I am fed up with tablets", or the equivalent, for the umpteenth time in the last couple of days. I don't own a Tablet (except for a few Paracetamol) so cannot comment but I was wondering if those of you that do have them have become disenchanted and rarely use them any more. Are they the 'Breville' of IT, destined to reside in the cupboard-under-the-stairs of computing?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
Is the wrench dead, or are pliers? It comes down to what you need; the right tool for the right job. I do a lot of writing and coding, and play network based games like World of Warcraft. What little I would want to do portably I can do on my Android X phone. A PC is definitely my choice, as I have a large keyboard, a mouse, multiple windows and lots of visual real estate. A friend of mine surfs the web a lot, reads, makes notes and occasionally gives lectures: his iPad is much more suited to what he needs.
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Nagy Vilmos wrote:
Tablets are great when you are mostly reading and on the move, mobile browsing, the odd film, that stiff.
Surely if you are that Stiff, you don't need tablets?
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]
Last time I took some Viagra, I didn't swallow it properly. Woke up with a stiff neck.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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My Galaxy Tab goes everywhere with me. That is the great thing about it being small, slips into the pocket and is not inconvenient.
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My Galaxy Tab goes with me on when I'm visiting clients and going via train - otherwise it's just too big to be convenient.
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My Galaxy Tab goes with me on when I'm visiting clients and going via train - otherwise it's just too big to be convenient.
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
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It gets harder and harder to decide who is right. :-D After reading this[^] from today's The Insider[^]. I realised that I had read "I am fed up with tablets", or the equivalent, for the umpteenth time in the last couple of days. I don't own a Tablet (except for a few Paracetamol) so cannot comment but I was wondering if those of you that do have them have become disenchanted and rarely use them any more. Are they the 'Breville' of IT, destined to reside in the cupboard-under-the-stairs of computing?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
My tablet stays at home, mostly because my company's IT department is bunch of baka[^] regarding wifi access in the building. However, when I do get home, I use it nearly every day. I use it to read email, surf the odd web page, read (or at least scan) the eleventy billion RSS feeds I keep tabs on. Angry Birds is also a suitable time waster during commercial breaks.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
My Galaxy Tab goes with me
Just so you can get you fix of "Stupid Zombies"? :)
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Of course.
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It gets harder and harder to decide who is right. :-D After reading this[^] from today's The Insider[^]. I realised that I had read "I am fed up with tablets", or the equivalent, for the umpteenth time in the last couple of days. I don't own a Tablet (except for a few Paracetamol) so cannot comment but I was wondering if those of you that do have them have become disenchanted and rarely use them any more. Are they the 'Breville' of IT, destined to reside in the cupboard-under-the-stairs of computing?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
Being that we are all programmers here it is hard for any of us to ever imagine the PC being dead. I mean even if the PC dies on a social stand point we will still need it for them to use their fancy smancy new interface. For example, the TV is now an easy doorway to the web. Hosueholds that had PCs in them only for web access will likely abonadon the PC. However, we will all still go to work to build the web site, not on a TV but on a PC. Whats my point? Well I am wondering will us "techies", those that are driving technology into the new age, those that understand the new tools, in a couple decades be the dinosours that won't give up their relics? Now I know our beloved PC will not necessarily be compared to rotary phones, but will the non-techies in the world look at it this way. They will walk into my hosue and see this old relic of a PC, and think "Man, what are you living in the dark ages??":~
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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Being that we are all programmers here it is hard for any of us to ever imagine the PC being dead. I mean even if the PC dies on a social stand point we will still need it for them to use their fancy smancy new interface. For example, the TV is now an easy doorway to the web. Hosueholds that had PCs in them only for web access will likely abonadon the PC. However, we will all still go to work to build the web site, not on a TV but on a PC. Whats my point? Well I am wondering will us "techies", those that are driving technology into the new age, those that understand the new tools, in a couple decades be the dinosours that won't give up their relics? Now I know our beloved PC will not necessarily be compared to rotary phones, but will the non-techies in the world look at it this way. They will walk into my hosue and see this old relic of a PC, and think "Man, what are you living in the dark ages??":~
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
Exactly. I remember when Electronic Personal Organizers first appeared (The last one I owned[^]). I got one with the intention of it replacing my Filofax. I found that entering data was easier with the Filofax but I persevered, after all this was electronic, it must be better. As the weeks went by I found myself more and more in situations where the organizer didn't cope very well, such as needing to jot something down quickly. So I started to take my Filofax with me as well because it had a notepad in it. It became daft to carry both so the organizer got consigned to the sideboard drawer (It's still there, I just checked). My point is that these things often don't live up to our expectations and given the geeky nature of many CPians I thought that the same might be true with Tablets.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
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I don't use my Transformer ALL the time, but it has its uses, particularly since I don't have/want a smart phone... If I can find a seat on the subway (Ha!) or something to lean against (So I can use both hands instead of holding onto a pole*), I can play games during my commute... When I go to my board gaming group, there are some scoring apps that can be really convenient... When I go out of town with friends, I can make use of its GPS and directions (Everything is cached, so no need for 3G)... I also like to proof-read my novels on it, though I've decided to keep writing on my old netbook, as the word processor in Android (Polaris Office) isn't good for speed. Of course, if I'm at home and want to play some games, do I pick up my tablet? No way! That's what my Phenom II with the crossfired Radeons is for :) * For the jokers among us, this is your entry point**. ** And for the meta-jokers, start there.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)Ian Shlasko wrote:
When I go out of town with friends, I can make use of its GPS and directions (Everything is cached, so no need for 3G)...
Out of curiosity, how wide of a swath around the planned route does it cache? As long as everything goes as planned even paper maps/directions are fine. Where I find my GPS most useful is when something happens and detours are needed; but that's contingent on the ~2GB database it carries. That's within the limits of what a tablet could hold obviously; but I suspect a lot of people would be cranky about tying that much up on a single app so it has to cull the dataset to a limited range around your planned route.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
When I go out of town with friends, I can make use of its GPS and directions (Everything is cached, so no need for 3G)...
Out of curiosity, how wide of a swath around the planned route does it cache? As long as everything goes as planned even paper maps/directions are fine. Where I find my GPS most useful is when something happens and detours are needed; but that's contingent on the ~2GB database it carries. That's within the limits of what a tablet could hold obviously; but I suspect a lot of people would be cranky about tying that much up on a single app so it has to cull the dataset to a limited range around your planned route.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
Dunno... Haven't tested the limits yet... But I have a 32GB tablet, so not that concerned about an extra gig or two of maps if I can download 'em in bulk.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels) -
It gets harder and harder to decide who is right. :-D After reading this[^] from today's The Insider[^]. I realised that I had read "I am fed up with tablets", or the equivalent, for the umpteenth time in the last couple of days. I don't own a Tablet (except for a few Paracetamol) so cannot comment but I was wondering if those of you that do have them have become disenchanted and rarely use them any more. Are they the 'Breville' of IT, destined to reside in the cupboard-under-the-stairs of computing?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
I have a netbook with a rotating touch screen (so it's essentially a tablet with a keyboard) and honestly I don't use the touch that much. I got it intending to use it for taking notes...but the screen doesn't work well with a stylus, a whole band of it refuses to respond to anything but my finger, and writing with a finger is hardly faster than typing, except for some more complex mathematical symbols (integrals and such). Then again because it's a netbook it's still running a desktop based OS, thinking of trying a tablet OS and seeing the result...if I ever get around to fixing the screen...got a big ol' crack in it...
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It gets harder and harder to decide who is right. :-D After reading this[^] from today's The Insider[^]. I realised that I had read "I am fed up with tablets", or the equivalent, for the umpteenth time in the last couple of days. I don't own a Tablet (except for a few Paracetamol) so cannot comment but I was wondering if those of you that do have them have become disenchanted and rarely use them any more. Are they the 'Breville' of IT, destined to reside in the cupboard-under-the-stairs of computing?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
I didn't look at the links but what I believe is that the tablet is a good device for the web consumer and the PC is a good device for the web producer. I have both and use them accordingly. :-D
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It gets harder and harder to decide who is right. :-D After reading this[^] from today's The Insider[^]. I realised that I had read "I am fed up with tablets", or the equivalent, for the umpteenth time in the last couple of days. I don't own a Tablet (except for a few Paracetamol) so cannot comment but I was wondering if those of you that do have them have become disenchanted and rarely use them any more. Are they the 'Breville' of IT, destined to reside in the cupboard-under-the-stairs of computing?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
Excellent timing, we just walked into a computer (and electronics) store today for the second time in six months. Six months ago we were agog at all the netbooks and small notebooks and the very limited selection of desktop pc's. Today almost all the netbooks and notebbooks were gone and there were about 30 different tablets on display and I didn't see a PC anywhere. I went in to buy a mouse pad and there was a selection of exactly 3 down from about 40 a few years ago and I expect there to be none the next time I go in. It doesn't matter what you or I think, the world is moving on.
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Excellent timing, we just walked into a computer (and electronics) store today for the second time in six months. Six months ago we were agog at all the netbooks and small notebooks and the very limited selection of desktop pc's. Today almost all the netbooks and notebbooks were gone and there were about 30 different tablets on display and I didn't see a PC anywhere. I went in to buy a mouse pad and there was a selection of exactly 3 down from about 40 a few years ago and I expect there to be none the next time I go in. It doesn't matter what you or I think, the world is moving on.
There is no failure only feedback