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  • W wizardzz

    I am lucky enough to be working, too. But my gf is getting laid off. But shit, you work for the State? Given the current economic client that would be entirely too stressful for me.

    "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.

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    Marc A Brown
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    Sorry about the GF's situation -- that truly stinks. As to my own employment, it is quite stressful but I keep telling myself to be thankful that I'm employed. Sometimes that's difficult when I consider the breaches of contract and other written agreements that have occurred or are threatened and the threats to our retirement benefits, but I am thankful to have a job. On the bright side, I really do like living in this area, regardless of the political climate. We get all kinds of weather so it's never boring, and since the state is centrally located (and we're centrally located in the state) we're able to drive to just about any vacation spot we want to visit.

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    • A Abhinav S

      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

      "You're all CRAZY!"

      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

      , "No, he's a Texan."

      As I have often said, I'm glad I'm on the other side of the planet.

      Too much of heaven can bring you underground Heaven can always turn around Too much of heaven, our life is all hell bound Heaven, the kill that makes no sound

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      wizardzz
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      We are too.

      "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.

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        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

        "You're all CRAZY!"

        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

        , "No, he's a Texan."

        As I have often said, I'm glad I'm on the other side of the planet.

        Too much of heaven can bring you underground Heaven can always turn around Too much of heaven, our life is all hell bound Heaven, the kill that makes no sound

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        TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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        Abhinav S wrote:

        other side of the planet

        Yeah, were there's absolutely *NO* guns at all in India or Pakistan or Afganistan. ;P ;P ROTFLMAO! :laugh: :laugh: And like wiz said: we're glad you're over there too.

        If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
        You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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        • A Abhinav S

          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

          "You're all CRAZY!"

          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

          , "No, he's a Texan."

          As I have often said, I'm glad I'm on the other side of the planet.

          Too much of heaven can bring you underground Heaven can always turn around Too much of heaven, our life is all hell bound Heaven, the kill that makes no sound

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          realJSOP
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          At one point or another, I've had all of my guns laying on a table or leaning against a wall. Most of the time, the pistols are in a holster. Not one time have I ever seen one of the guns just up and start shooting. They're only as dangerous as the person that's misusing them. Guns don't really do what is portrayed in this video. [^]

          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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            They don't have to move out of town, they just have to stay off my land (though they may be much happier in another town).

            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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            tgrt
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            John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

            They don't have to move out of town, they just have to stay off my land (though they may be much happier in another town state).

            FTFY It's sad though that those type of people have infested Texas too.

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              In preparation for our impending change of address, we had a garage sale on Saturday. After about an hour, we'd racked up quite a cash stash, so my wife suggested that based on the current social climate where people steal things like hair extensions, a pile of used bricks, and other such things, that I should put on a pistol for the remainder of the day. Unable to find any flaws in her logic, I concurred. About 45 minutes later, the cops showed up, and some lady (that had been at our garage sale about 40 minutes prior) was standing in the street pointing at me kind of frantically, and talking to the cop in the lead car (there were two squad cars). I was sitting in a lawn chair sippin' on a glass of ice-tea, and the cop comes up and starts a conversation: Him: You're scarin' the lady in the street. Me: How so? I'm not in my car. If she's nervous about being in the street I don't blame her - you should see the way people drive through here. My advice is that she get out of the street. Him: She's concerned about your gun. Have you been out in the street with it? Me: Nope. Him: Have you had it out of the holster? Me: Well, yeah. I had to make sure it was loaded. I did that inside the house, though. Him: Well, the lady's nervous. Me: As long as she doesn't come on my property and threaten mine or my wife's life, she has nothing to worry about. If someone else were to try something, she can rest assured that we exercise Texas gun control in our house. Him: What kind of gun control is that? Me: We hit what we're aiming at. He smiled, and the conversation turned to types of pistols, the pros/cons of open carry, and the sheeple that are scared that a gun in a holster might jump out on its own and start killing and maiming with abandon. We both had a good laugh, and guessed that the concerned citizen that reported "man with a gun" was probably a liberal on federal assistance. He left, with a promise to educate the lady concerning the law regarding open-carry on one's own property. Last we saw, the lady was getting quite animated and upset, and appeared to stomp back up the street in a huff. The cops left, and I was still in the lawn chair when this guy in a pcikup truck drove up. He got out, walked right up to me with a stern look on his face. Me: Mornin'! Wanna buy a big TV? Him: You think you're somethin' carrying that gun, don't ya. Me: Well, one thing I think is that I'm armed and you're an idiot. So much for the theory that "an armed society is a polite society".

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              Ger Hayden
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              That one guy reminds me of JR Ewing holidaying in Europe, when some brigtly attired type from one of the north eastern states approached and said: "Gee honey - you Americans too", with which JR replied: "No, we're Texans".

              Ger

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              • R realJSOP

                At one point or another, I've had all of my guns laying on a table or leaning against a wall. Most of the time, the pistols are in a holster. Not one time have I ever seen one of the guns just up and start shooting. They're only as dangerous as the person that's misusing them. Guns don't really do what is portrayed in this video. [^]

                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                wizardzz
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                The view that guns are dangerous reminds me of all the stuck accelerator pedals that turned out to be complete BS. Yet there are close to the same amount of guns and cars in the U.S. Nobody gets their car taken away for their first DUI, people often kill each other with cars out of negligence and don't serve jail time, and we let felons and teenagers legally own cars.

                "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.

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                • W wizardzz

                  The view that guns are dangerous reminds me of all the stuck accelerator pedals that turned out to be complete BS. Yet there are close to the same amount of guns and cars in the U.S. Nobody gets their car taken away for their first DUI, people often kill each other with cars out of negligence and don't serve jail time, and we let felons and teenagers legally own cars.

                  "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.

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                  wizardzz wrote:

                  Yet there are close to the same amount of guns and cars in the U.S.

                  A car has a purpose other than killing and/or maiming things, in fact it's relatively difficult to do if the other person(or people) involved are paying attention. Being rather large, noisy and quite slow when compared to a bullet. It's also reasonably difficult to sneak a car into a building and ram into a few dozen people, but I've seen enough of those dumb driver shows to know it is entirely possible with enough effort. Just lacking on the sneaking. The comparison doesn't quite work as a gun is a hand weapon that effectively eliminates someone's ability to defend themselves against you should you decide to use it at any decent range, I'm not sure how you're not supposed to be concerned when someone has one. A car on the other hand can be avoided fairly easily unless you're crippled or not paying attention as it's hardly going to sneak up on you or if someone's decided to go crowd surfing in a carolla.

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                    wizardzz wrote:

                    Yet there are close to the same amount of guns and cars in the U.S.

                    A car has a purpose other than killing and/or maiming things, in fact it's relatively difficult to do if the other person(or people) involved are paying attention. Being rather large, noisy and quite slow when compared to a bullet. It's also reasonably difficult to sneak a car into a building and ram into a few dozen people, but I've seen enough of those dumb driver shows to know it is entirely possible with enough effort. Just lacking on the sneaking. The comparison doesn't quite work as a gun is a hand weapon that effectively eliminates someone's ability to defend themselves against you should you decide to use it at any decent range, I'm not sure how you're not supposed to be concerned when someone has one. A car on the other hand can be avoided fairly easily unless you're crippled or not paying attention as it's hardly going to sneak up on you or if someone's decided to go crowd surfing in a carolla.

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                    TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                    Hmm, yeah. Tell that to all the people killed by car bombs around the world.

                    If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                    You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                      In preparation for our impending change of address, we had a garage sale on Saturday. After about an hour, we'd racked up quite a cash stash, so my wife suggested that based on the current social climate where people steal things like hair extensions, a pile of used bricks, and other such things, that I should put on a pistol for the remainder of the day. Unable to find any flaws in her logic, I concurred. About 45 minutes later, the cops showed up, and some lady (that had been at our garage sale about 40 minutes prior) was standing in the street pointing at me kind of frantically, and talking to the cop in the lead car (there were two squad cars). I was sitting in a lawn chair sippin' on a glass of ice-tea, and the cop comes up and starts a conversation: Him: You're scarin' the lady in the street. Me: How so? I'm not in my car. If she's nervous about being in the street I don't blame her - you should see the way people drive through here. My advice is that she get out of the street. Him: She's concerned about your gun. Have you been out in the street with it? Me: Nope. Him: Have you had it out of the holster? Me: Well, yeah. I had to make sure it was loaded. I did that inside the house, though. Him: Well, the lady's nervous. Me: As long as she doesn't come on my property and threaten mine or my wife's life, she has nothing to worry about. If someone else were to try something, she can rest assured that we exercise Texas gun control in our house. Him: What kind of gun control is that? Me: We hit what we're aiming at. He smiled, and the conversation turned to types of pistols, the pros/cons of open carry, and the sheeple that are scared that a gun in a holster might jump out on its own and start killing and maiming with abandon. We both had a good laugh, and guessed that the concerned citizen that reported "man with a gun" was probably a liberal on federal assistance. He left, with a promise to educate the lady concerning the law regarding open-carry on one's own property. Last we saw, the lady was getting quite animated and upset, and appeared to stomp back up the street in a huff. The cops left, and I was still in the lawn chair when this guy in a pcikup truck drove up. He got out, walked right up to me with a stern look on his face. Me: Mornin'! Wanna buy a big TV? Him: You think you're somethin' carrying that gun, don't ya. Me: Well, one thing I think is that I'm armed and you're an idiot. So much for the theory that "an armed society is a polite society".

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                      Great story John. I respect your right to own and carry your gun. I work with two guys that both have concealed carry licenses and love their guns. I'm happy for them. Personally, I have never been in a situation in my life where I have ever needed a gun. I know there are always going to be exceptions, but in general, I feel that if you need a gun, then you made a mistake 10 steps previously that put you in a bad situation. I hope to always stay away from trouble before it escalates. I hope you never have to use your gun, except for pleasure (and that doesn't mean shooting dumb a$$ people!). Hogan

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                        wizardzz wrote:

                        Yet there are close to the same amount of guns and cars in the U.S.

                        A car has a purpose other than killing and/or maiming things, in fact it's relatively difficult to do if the other person(or people) involved are paying attention. Being rather large, noisy and quite slow when compared to a bullet. It's also reasonably difficult to sneak a car into a building and ram into a few dozen people, but I've seen enough of those dumb driver shows to know it is entirely possible with enough effort. Just lacking on the sneaking. The comparison doesn't quite work as a gun is a hand weapon that effectively eliminates someone's ability to defend themselves against you should you decide to use it at any decent range, I'm not sure how you're not supposed to be concerned when someone has one. A car on the other hand can be avoided fairly easily unless you're crippled or not paying attention as it's hardly going to sneak up on you or if someone's decided to go crowd surfing in a carolla.

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                        wizardzz
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                        Is the speed limit 10mph where you live? People are killed by cars at a higher rate than guns, which is odd, given their similar numbers and that they aren't designed to kill people. Something about 3000 pounds of steel, plastic, and glass travelling at any rate of speed is just, dangerous.

                        "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.

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                          wizardzz wrote:

                          Yet there are close to the same amount of guns and cars in the U.S.

                          A car has a purpose other than killing and/or maiming things, in fact it's relatively difficult to do if the other person(or people) involved are paying attention. Being rather large, noisy and quite slow when compared to a bullet. It's also reasonably difficult to sneak a car into a building and ram into a few dozen people, but I've seen enough of those dumb driver shows to know it is entirely possible with enough effort. Just lacking on the sneaking. The comparison doesn't quite work as a gun is a hand weapon that effectively eliminates someone's ability to defend themselves against you should you decide to use it at any decent range, I'm not sure how you're not supposed to be concerned when someone has one. A car on the other hand can be avoided fairly easily unless you're crippled or not paying attention as it's hardly going to sneak up on you or if someone's decided to go crowd surfing in a carolla.

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                          But we don't have a constitutional right to own cars. We do have that right with firearms.

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                          • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                            Hmm, yeah. Tell that to all the people killed by car bombs around the world.

                            If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                            You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                            So car bombs are standard equipment now? Or are they just a common option?

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                              Is the speed limit 10mph where you live? People are killed by cars at a higher rate than guns, which is odd, given their similar numbers and that they aren't designed to kill people. Something about 3000 pounds of steel, plastic, and glass travelling at any rate of speed is just, dangerous.

                              "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.

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                              Distind
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                              I grew up with idiots doing 60 down gravel roads, pay half a lick of attention and you'll be fine. Otherwise I'd be a greasy splotch across some back road. Having had the discomfort of having both aimed at me on one occasion or another, I'll take a car aimed at me every damn time. Yes, they can kill people, and they do. That hardly equates something with actual utility, and if I remember my stats correctly considerably more users, to a weapon.

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                                I grew up with idiots doing 60 down gravel roads, pay half a lick of attention and you'll be fine. Otherwise I'd be a greasy splotch across some back road. Having had the discomfort of having both aimed at me on one occasion or another, I'll take a car aimed at me every damn time. Yes, they can kill people, and they do. That hardly equates something with actual utility, and if I remember my stats correctly considerably more users, to a weapon.

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                                TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                Distind wrote:

                                they (cars) can kill people

                                No, cars don't kill people. Drunk and otherwise impaired drivers of cars do.

                                If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                                You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                                  So car bombs are standard equipment now? Or are they just a common option?

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                                  Distind wrote:

                                  a common option

                                  a common custom option. Especially in Mideastern countries.

                                  If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                                  You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                                    Distind wrote:

                                    they (cars) can kill people

                                    No, cars don't kill people. Drunk and otherwise impaired drivers of cars do.

                                    If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                                    You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                                    Car that slips off a jack while you're under it'll kill you just as well as one aimed at you. Or with a car bomb strapped to it per your mention earlier. I'm not trying to be anti-gun, I'm anti-crappy comparisons.

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                                      Distind wrote:

                                      a common option

                                      a common custom option. Especially in Mideastern countries.

                                      If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                                      You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                                      Alright, now can you explain to me how exactly someone stuffing a large amount of explosives into a car and detonating it translates to a reason to keep people from having cars? It seems like a damn good reason to keep explosives out of their hands, but without a car you can pack a bag full of it well enough. Or if someone actually bothered to get creative a satchel full of the stuff attached to a form of public transport(which the suddenly carless masses would be taking) would probably be more effective than your average car bomb.

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                                        Car that slips off a jack while you're under it'll kill you just as well as one aimed at you. Or with a car bomb strapped to it per your mention earlier. I'm not trying to be anti-gun, I'm anti-crappy comparisons.

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                                        TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                        Yeah, the comparison isn't the best, but the point is still valid. BTW, car slipping off jack is still operator error. Hence, he killed himself.

                                        If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                                        You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                                          Great story John. I respect your right to own and carry your gun. I work with two guys that both have concealed carry licenses and love their guns. I'm happy for them. Personally, I have never been in a situation in my life where I have ever needed a gun. I know there are always going to be exceptions, but in general, I feel that if you need a gun, then you made a mistake 10 steps previously that put you in a bad situation. I hope to always stay away from trouble before it escalates. I hope you never have to use your gun, except for pleasure (and that doesn't mean shooting dumb a$$ people!). Hogan

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                                          snorkie wrote:

                                          I feel that if you need a gun, then you made a mistake 10 steps previously that put you in a bad situation.

                                          You mean like walking along minding your own business on a bright sunny day and having a couple of hoodlums come up and rob you? Or how about the chain of bad decisions you made when you got up in the morning, and decided to run down to the corner convenience store for a morning paper, only to have some idiot come itn to rob the place just after you get there? Oh wait - I know! It was a chain of bad decisions you made that caused the low-life to break into your house while you're sleeping. I don't go looking for trouble, and in fact, I go out of my way to avoid it. I'm a mostly stay-at-home kind of person. However, if trouble comes looking for me, I won't hesitate to put a bullet in its pointed little head.

                                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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