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  • M Mario Majcica

    Hi all Are the step by step walk-through's actually articles? An article should, IMHO, discuss in a detail a technique and reasons of that approach, put in evidence pros and cons, analyze different situations. Lately I'm seeing a bunch of new articles that have two couple of word's per picture, on a banal arguments, and I just will not click on approve! What's yours on this? Cheers

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    S Houghtelin
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    Unfortunately, most people that are looking for the this type of information (How do I..) aren’t interested as to why a particular method works or the potential pitfalls of using the method, they just want to implement a method because someone told them they should do it that way and they’re unable to say Uh I don’t know how…. Or It could be someone like myself who likes a little of the background but don’t want to spend a ton of time reading and researching the ins and outs of a particular method. I may just need to implement a unknown (or unfamiliar) method and getting some example code and steps on implementation is very helpful. They would be good for tips and tricks as long as it isn't too involved. Other wise yeah I supposed it could be an article if it takes more than a few paragraphs to step through. But you're right, they tend to be more instructions on how to. Maybe CP could have a "How To" section?

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      Unfortunately, most people that are looking for the this type of information (How do I..) aren’t interested as to why a particular method works or the potential pitfalls of using the method, they just want to implement a method because someone told them they should do it that way and they’re unable to say Uh I don’t know how…. Or It could be someone like myself who likes a little of the background but don’t want to spend a ton of time reading and researching the ins and outs of a particular method. I may just need to implement a unknown (or unfamiliar) method and getting some example code and steps on implementation is very helpful. They would be good for tips and tricks as long as it isn't too involved. Other wise yeah I supposed it could be an article if it takes more than a few paragraphs to step through. But you're right, they tend to be more instructions on how to. Maybe CP could have a "How To" section?

      It was broke, so I fixed it.

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      Mario Majcica
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      That also crossed my mind. We have many "new" sections, as tech blogs, videos, tips, etc. Should we suggest finding space for a new category?

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      • M Mario Majcica

        Hi all Are the step by step walk-through's actually articles? An article should, IMHO, discuss in a detail a technique and reasons of that approach, put in evidence pros and cons, analyze different situations. Lately I'm seeing a bunch of new articles that have two couple of word's per picture, on a banal arguments, and I just will not click on approve! What's yours on this? Cheers

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        Albert Holguin
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        I'd say that's a bit of a gray area... although two words per picture is a bit extreme :wtf:

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        • M Mario Majcica

          Hi all Are the step by step walk-through's actually articles? An article should, IMHO, discuss in a detail a technique and reasons of that approach, put in evidence pros and cons, analyze different situations. Lately I'm seeing a bunch of new articles that have two couple of word's per picture, on a banal arguments, and I just will not click on approve! What's yours on this? Cheers

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          Pete OHanlon
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          It depends what the step by step is setting out to achieve. I recently wrote an article that held the developers hand while they created a Windows Phone application. The key thing with it was not detailing how to create the application - that was a by product - but to have a detailed explanation of what code was produced, and what it does. So yes, walk-throughs can be articles, if they end up teaching something.

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            I'd say that's a bit of a gray area... although two words per picture is a bit extreme :wtf:

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            Mario Majcica
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            Damn Italian! We are use to say due parole (two words) in the situations like Vorrei spendere due parole su questa traduzione = I would like to say a few words about this translation Because of that, sometimes, I just forget that, that not everything can be just simply translated! ;)

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              It depends what the step by step is setting out to achieve. I recently wrote an article that held the developers hand while they created a Windows Phone application. The key thing with it was not detailing how to create the application - that was a by product - but to have a detailed explanation of what code was produced, and what it does. So yes, walk-throughs can be articles, if they end up teaching something.

              Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

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              My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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              Mario Majcica
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              I peeled your article and I liked it. Intro, plain of explanations, discussing the background, describing the situations. However it is not at this type of articles that I'm referring. But on articles like this Learning jQuery using jQuery Lab[^] Cheers

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                Damn Italian! We are use to say due parole (two words) in the situations like Vorrei spendere due parole su questa traduzione = I would like to say a few words about this translation Because of that, sometimes, I just forget that, that not everything can be just simply translated! ;)

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                Albert Holguin
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                :laugh:

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                • P Pete OHanlon

                  It depends what the step by step is setting out to achieve. I recently wrote an article that held the developers hand while they created a Windows Phone application. The key thing with it was not detailing how to create the application - that was a by product - but to have a detailed explanation of what code was produced, and what it does. So yes, walk-throughs can be articles, if they end up teaching something.

                  Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                  "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                  My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                  I agree... :thumbsup:

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                    :laugh:

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                    What is the correct English form, a couple of words, a few words? What will suit this situation?

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                    • P Pete OHanlon

                      It depends what the step by step is setting out to achieve. I recently wrote an article that held the developers hand while they created a Windows Phone application. The key thing with it was not detailing how to create the application - that was a by product - but to have a detailed explanation of what code was produced, and what it does. So yes, walk-throughs can be articles, if they end up teaching something.

                      Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                      "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                      My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                      Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                      So yes, walk-throughs can be articles, if they end up teaching something.

                      Very good point! And your article was good as well, I did learn some good information from going through it. Maybe there should be a four word minimum on captions. and a banality ban! ;)

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                      • M Mario Majcica

                        What is the correct English form, a couple of words, a few words? What will suit this situation?

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                        Yes, you can say, "I'd like to say a couple of words on this subject." It doesn't mean exactly two words in this situation. It is basically synonymous with "a few words". If you say "I'd like to say 2 words on this subject, people might expect 2 words. [I grew up in an Italian household here in the States. My grandparents and mother would continue to make errors like this, and I swear my construction of English is based on learning it from them, though they never grasped it to begin with!]

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                        • M Mario Majcica

                          What is the correct English form, a couple of words, a few words? What will suit this situation?

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                          A few words would be the proper term. "A couple" implies two, although many people don't realize this and use it freely to mean a few, but that's actually incorrect.

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                          • M Mario Majcica

                            What is the correct English form, a couple of words, a few words? What will suit this situation?

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                            Step 0: Do this. Step 1: Do that. Step 2: STOP THAT!

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                              Yes, you can say, "I'd like to say a couple of words on this subject." It doesn't mean exactly two words in this situation. It is basically synonymous with "a few words". If you say "I'd like to say 2 words on this subject, people might expect 2 words. [I grew up in an Italian household here in the States. My grandparents and mother would continue to make errors like this, and I swear my construction of English is based on learning it from them, though they never grasped it to begin with!]

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                              "a couple" has actually been bastardized over time... it does literally mean two though... so I wouldn't recommend people to say that if that's not what they mean.

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                                "a couple" has actually been bastardized over time... it does literally mean two though... so I wouldn't recommend people to say that if that's not what they mean.

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                                Great to know! Check it now, freshly edited! :)

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                                • A Albert Holguin

                                  "a couple" has actually been bastardized over time... it does literally mean two though... so I wouldn't recommend people to say that if that's not what they mean.

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                                  the term "a couple of words" is almost a Colloquialism with its own meaning. I told him he can use it because nobody on this planet would expect him to say exactly two words if he started a sentence, "Let me add a couple of words on this matter" If he said, "Let me add 2 words on this matter" people might expect 2 words. Call it bastardization, but it's silly to fight what is commonly used and understood. Do we still speak the same English as Shakespeare on either side of the pond? [Actually, seeing his correction, it may still be unclear with "couple of" It is better to be specific, especially when written.]

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                                  • M Mario Majcica

                                    Great to know! Check it now, freshly edited! :)

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                                    :laugh:

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                                    • M Mario Majcica

                                      Great to know! Check it now, freshly edited! :)

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                                      Yeah, in this case, I'd go with "just a few words".

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                                      • W wizardzz

                                        the term "a couple of words" is almost a Colloquialism with its own meaning. I told him he can use it because nobody on this planet would expect him to say exactly two words if he started a sentence, "Let me add a couple of words on this matter" If he said, "Let me add 2 words on this matter" people might expect 2 words. Call it bastardization, but it's silly to fight what is commonly used and understood. Do we still speak the same English as Shakespeare on either side of the pond? [Actually, seeing his correction, it may still be unclear with "couple of" It is better to be specific, especially when written.]

                                        "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.

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                                        Oh I'm not fighting about it... but I don't know how many times I've been up to a bar and ordered "a couple of [insert favorite beer]" and been asked "how many?"... its sort of a shame people don't know literal meanings of common words.

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                                          Oh I'm not fighting about it... but I don't know how many times I've been up to a bar and ordered "a couple of [insert favorite beer]" and been asked "how many?"... its sort of a shame people don't know literal meanings of common words.

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                                          Now that is fucked up! Definitely a shame. I quite dislike when people forget the original meanings of words myself. I'm trying to think of another example, but it will just make me seem like I hate service industry people.

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