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  • D Dan Mos

    I can't remember exactly, but those moments are fun, plus the info stays with you forever. I mean it's nice/fun at the end, sometimes I even laugh at myself. But, until the "aha" moment, really not fun.

    All the best, Dan

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    Rob Grainger
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    MDL=>Moshu wrote:

    can't remember exactly

    MDL=>Moshu wrote:

    plus the info stays with you forever

    Unfortunately, the information evidently did not stay with you forever in this case. ;-)

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    • B Bassam Abdul Baki

      Haven't listened to A-ha in a long time.

      Web - BM - RSS - Math - LinkedIn

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      Rob Grainger
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      Thankfully, I'm trying now to compose myself to prevent any of their detritus invading my memory.

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      • N Nagy Vilmos

        I won't even risk a fart these days unless I'm within wobbling distance of the can.


        Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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        Jim Crafton
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        The two of you need to hold hands, in a toilet, farm far, far from the rest of us. This is getting entirely too bizarre. Next you'll be swapping Viagra stories...

        ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow

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        • H HappyMan811

          you have been stuck for hours and hours trying to solve something or fix something , whether be it an assignment, work or a home project. You feel you have checked every single tutorial Google had to offer and none of them helped :wtf: . Just as you are about to give up, a random thought comes to you,to which by some miracle is the unified solution to your problem. You get this rush and suddenly you scream out "Aha!" Have you ever had that moment? Please share your aha! moment.

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          GParkings
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          I tend to have "aha-doh!-imsuchamuppetattimes!!" moments instead

          Pedis ex oris Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur

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          • R realJSOP

            I have one every time I manage to pull off a righteous dump (that's getting more difficult to do as I get older).

            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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            Slacker007
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            John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

            I have one every time I manage to pull off a righteous dump (that's getting more difficult to do as I get older).

            Classic. :laugh:

            Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
            "No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)

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            • R Rob Grainger

              MDL=>Moshu wrote:

              can't remember exactly

              MDL=>Moshu wrote:

              plus the info stays with you forever

              Unfortunately, the information evidently did not stay with you forever in this case. ;-)

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              Dan Mos
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              :thumbsup:

              All the best, Dan

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              • H HappyMan811

                you have been stuck for hours and hours trying to solve something or fix something , whether be it an assignment, work or a home project. You feel you have checked every single tutorial Google had to offer and none of them helped :wtf: . Just as you are about to give up, a random thought comes to you,to which by some miracle is the unified solution to your problem. You get this rush and suddenly you scream out "Aha!" Have you ever had that moment? Please share your aha! moment.

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                soap brain
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                HappyMan811 wrote:

                Have you ever had that moment? Please share your aha! moment.

                I had one when I solved the Poincaré conjecture. I let some Russian guy take the credit, though.

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                • R Rob Grainger

                  MDL=>Moshu wrote:

                  can't remember exactly

                  MDL=>Moshu wrote:

                  plus the info stays with you forever

                  Unfortunately, the information evidently did not stay with you forever in this case. ;-)

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                  hakz code
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                  :-D

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                  • R Rob Grainger

                    MDL=>Moshu wrote:

                    can't remember exactly

                    MDL=>Moshu wrote:

                    plus the info stays with you forever

                    Unfortunately, the information evidently did not stay with you forever in this case. ;-)

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                    Gary Wheeler
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                    You remember the feeling but not the details. This is also called middle age :-O.

                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                    • N Nagy Vilmos

                      Any support I provide is from afar. Anyway, you know you're getting old when you realise that it's stupid to pass up on a toilet opportunity.


                      Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                      Gary Wheeler
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                      Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                      it's stupid to pass up on a toilet opportunity

                      Wheeler Rule #1: Never miss an opportunity to pee. This became rule #1 after spending two hours in a traffic jam with a full bladder. My kidneys hurt for days afterward.

                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                      • H HappyMan811

                        you have been stuck for hours and hours trying to solve something or fix something , whether be it an assignment, work or a home project. You feel you have checked every single tutorial Google had to offer and none of them helped :wtf: . Just as you are about to give up, a random thought comes to you,to which by some miracle is the unified solution to your problem. You get this rush and suddenly you scream out "Aha!" Have you ever had that moment? Please share your aha! moment.

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                        Reelix
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                        I've been struggling for days trying to figure out why my character in my XNA game can walk through walls, when I find a way to draw actual BoundingSphere's. Turns out XNA's BoungingSphere.Intersect(BoundingSphere2) method's version of "Intersects" actually means "Contains"! A single screenshot of my "A HA!" moment: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/135815/KT%20Pics/boundingSpheres.jpg[^]

                        -= Reelix =-

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                        • H HappyMan811

                          you have been stuck for hours and hours trying to solve something or fix something , whether be it an assignment, work or a home project. You feel you have checked every single tutorial Google had to offer and none of them helped :wtf: . Just as you are about to give up, a random thought comes to you,to which by some miracle is the unified solution to your problem. You get this rush and suddenly you scream out "Aha!" Have you ever had that moment? Please share your aha! moment.

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                          My biggest "Aha" moment came to me when I realized that almost every problem I face has already been solved by some one else. And if the problem hasn't been solved by some one else, I probably need to look at the problem from a different perspective. I gladly now call myself a hack. Maybe someday I will have an original idea, but until then I will be happy learning from others. This philosophy is the secret to my (somewhat limited) success. Ronald Reagan said it best. There is no limit to what a man can do or where he can go if he doesn’t mind who gets the credit.

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                          • L Lost User

                            Constantly. It's an indicator that you are doing some real coding and not just some boiler plate stuff and plumbing. Just yesterday I was giving the rendering of my XNA user interface an overhaul. When drawing a tree of forms or controls you have to juggle with several coordinate systems and also have to perform clipping on partially hidden controls, no matter what coordinate system you must use at the moment. There were some bugs like hidden controls that were not clipped or objects which were drawn at the wrong places due to some confusion in the coordinate systems. A mess, because everything I tried had side effects on other things, And finally, after a while, I had gathered enough information and everything fell into place at once.

                            And from the clouds a mighty voice spoke:
                            "Smile and be happy, for it could come worse!"

                            And I smiled and was happy
                            And it came worse.

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                            BrainiacV
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                            I quite agree, it's an exaggeration to say it happens daily, but it certainly feels that way. What is more unique, is when you are with a group of senior, bright people, pondering a problem and you realize you are the one that is delivering the correct solution to the problem. The hairs don't go up on the back of my neck, but I feel a heat there and a lightheartedness as though I have levitated a few inches higher. It's like I can't believe for that brief moment, I was the smartest one in the room. It's sort of a delicious tickle. But a more interesting moment, is when you are with a group of people discussing a problem, and usually there is an older and wiser head that comes up with the solution that will be followed, but then you realize everyone is looking at you. The realization that you have become that "older and wiser" head is a little daunting. You no longer have a safety net and are expected to supply the solution. There will be no warning when this occurs.

                            Psychosis at 10 Film at 11 Those who do not remember the past, are doomed to repeat it. Those who do not remember the past, cannot build upon it.

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                            • N Nagy Vilmos

                              Any support I provide is from afar. Anyway, you know you're getting old when you realise that it's stupid to pass up on a toilet opportunity.


                              Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                              Stefan_Lang
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                              Hmm, does that have anything to do with your previous comment:

                              Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                              Either it won't come at all or too much comes.

                              ? ;P

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                              • H HappyMan811

                                you have been stuck for hours and hours trying to solve something or fix something , whether be it an assignment, work or a home project. You feel you have checked every single tutorial Google had to offer and none of them helped :wtf: . Just as you are about to give up, a random thought comes to you,to which by some miracle is the unified solution to your problem. You get this rush and suddenly you scream out "Aha!" Have you ever had that moment? Please share your aha! moment.

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                                Alan Balkany
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                                When this happens to me, it's often in the bathroom. I'll be working on a problem at the computer for hours, then when I take a bathroom break the answer suddenly comes to me. I suspect the change in my environment and activities causes a change in my thinking on the problem. I then think about the problem from a fresh perspective, avoiding the cycles of unproductive thought patterns that weren't getting me anywhere. At the same time, the details of the problem are fresh in my mind, allowing me to easily consider them from fresh perspectives.

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                                • H HappyMan811

                                  you have been stuck for hours and hours trying to solve something or fix something , whether be it an assignment, work or a home project. You feel you have checked every single tutorial Google had to offer and none of them helped :wtf: . Just as you are about to give up, a random thought comes to you,to which by some miracle is the unified solution to your problem. You get this rush and suddenly you scream out "Aha!" Have you ever had that moment? Please share your aha! moment.

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                                  Bruce Patin
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                                  I was writing a routine to plot dots on a graphics screen used to design various dot matrix printer fonts. One of the font formats used partially overlapping passes to produce extra quality. My attempts to muddle through arriving at the correct point to plot for each dot weren't working. After staring at the problem for a few minutes, a fairly complicated expression to solve the problem suddenly popped into my head, and it worked.

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                                  • H HappyMan811

                                    you have been stuck for hours and hours trying to solve something or fix something , whether be it an assignment, work or a home project. You feel you have checked every single tutorial Google had to offer and none of them helped :wtf: . Just as you are about to give up, a random thought comes to you,to which by some miracle is the unified solution to your problem. You get this rush and suddenly you scream out "Aha!" Have you ever had that moment? Please share your aha! moment.

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                                    Bob work
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                                    "Bob! Glad you're here - we have a quick in-house database we need you to put together for next week's partners meeting. Nothing much; just something for tracking information from past projects and contracts to use in future resumes, estimates, and requests for proposals... that kind of thing. "Here's a sketch. "Oh, and reports, too. One that looks like the government proposal response thing would be good to show at the meeting. "Have a great weekend!" My aha! moment was realizing that each project and contract was a separate and distinct entity tied together by a single parameter - type of project. There was no need for a full-blown database solution. I ditched the whole database/cloud thing and opened a Visual Studio web site project. God bless XML, XSL, DHTML, and my quirky habit of backing up everything I ever do for anyone to a drive that doesn't take adminstrator rights to access, recover, and restore. I asked our graphics guru for a minimalist web interface and pieced the whole project together from the Frankenstien lab of past efforts on my backup drive in less than a week. It's been running for a little over 4 years now and marketing (especially marketing), management, and the rest of the staff like it and use it. Reports are now available in word, xml, and HTML. No one is sure if we're actually getting more work because of it, but we're spending a LOT less time tasking staff for inputs to put together bids and proposals on new work. And, we seem to be making more money on the work we do get. </tootingOwnHorn> :-D

                                    -Bob

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                                      you have been stuck for hours and hours trying to solve something or fix something , whether be it an assignment, work or a home project. You feel you have checked every single tutorial Google had to offer and none of them helped :wtf: . Just as you are about to give up, a random thought comes to you,to which by some miracle is the unified solution to your problem. You get this rush and suddenly you scream out "Aha!" Have you ever had that moment? Please share your aha! moment.

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                                      Adrian Cole
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                                      One night and as I stepped into the bath and the water rose a light went on in my head. The next day at Starbucks I was having a latte with my buddy Archimedes and I mentioned it to him. I'm sure y'all know what happened next.

                                      while (e) { Coyote(); }

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                                      • H HappyMan811

                                        you have been stuck for hours and hours trying to solve something or fix something , whether be it an assignment, work or a home project. You feel you have checked every single tutorial Google had to offer and none of them helped :wtf: . Just as you are about to give up, a random thought comes to you,to which by some miracle is the unified solution to your problem. You get this rush and suddenly you scream out "Aha!" Have you ever had that moment? Please share your aha! moment.

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                                        fglenn
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                                        My best Aha! moment was a simultaneous double Aha!. That is, the same Aha! occurred in two minds at the same time. I was a hands-on supervisor of logic designers back in my hardware days. This engineer approached me with a chicken-or-egg type of problem. The issue was how to make digital and analog hardware play nice together in a random situation. I proposed an all-digital solution to supervise the two other pieces. After a moment's reflection, we both looked at each other as we realized that the all-digital supervisor, with a minor tweak, could eliminate the need for both of the analog and digital pieces.:cool: We were jointly awarded a patent for this.

                                        Fletcher Glenn

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                                        • B BrainiacV

                                          I quite agree, it's an exaggeration to say it happens daily, but it certainly feels that way. What is more unique, is when you are with a group of senior, bright people, pondering a problem and you realize you are the one that is delivering the correct solution to the problem. The hairs don't go up on the back of my neck, but I feel a heat there and a lightheartedness as though I have levitated a few inches higher. It's like I can't believe for that brief moment, I was the smartest one in the room. It's sort of a delicious tickle. But a more interesting moment, is when you are with a group of people discussing a problem, and usually there is an older and wiser head that comes up with the solution that will be followed, but then you realize everyone is looking at you. The realization that you have become that "older and wiser" head is a little daunting. You no longer have a safety net and are expected to supply the solution. There will be no warning when this occurs.

                                          Psychosis at 10 Film at 11 Those who do not remember the past, are doomed to repeat it. Those who do not remember the past, cannot build upon it.

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                                          Vic Rauch
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                                          Yes, that is a VERY sobering moment! Especially when you realize you don't have "the" answer, and you can't even think of ANY answer. Humility at its best.

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