Body mass indexes (indices???): What a load of.... well, you know!
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I've always thought that the common use of BMI for determining whether you're "normal" weight or not is a crock, but now I know it's true. In case you don't know, BMI "theory" states that if your height to weight BMI ratio is >=25 you're overweight, and if >= 30, you're obese. Today while reading an article on a hockey player for the Toronto Maple Leafs (will it be this year for poor Leaf fans to rejoice??? :) ), I noticed they listed his height and weight (6'-4", 243 lbs). I decided to plug this into a BMI calculator. Guess what? this guy is borderline obese! :wtf: :omg: :confused: So a career athlete, whose fitness level allows him to play and practise a high-intensity sport like ice hockey to a professional level, is actually a very high health risk?? Really? NOTE: Please, no comments on the Leafs talent, or lack of; this isn't a hockey rant. I'll save that for another post after season starts next week! ;P Just thought I'd share. Let the debate begin! :-D -EM
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I've always thought that the common use of BMI for determining whether you're "normal" weight or not is a crock, but now I know it's true. In case you don't know, BMI "theory" states that if your height to weight BMI ratio is >=25 you're overweight, and if >= 30, you're obese. Today while reading an article on a hockey player for the Toronto Maple Leafs (will it be this year for poor Leaf fans to rejoice??? :) ), I noticed they listed his height and weight (6'-4", 243 lbs). I decided to plug this into a BMI calculator. Guess what? this guy is borderline obese! :wtf: :omg: :confused: So a career athlete, whose fitness level allows him to play and practise a high-intensity sport like ice hockey to a professional level, is actually a very high health risk?? Really? NOTE: Please, no comments on the Leafs talent, or lack of; this isn't a hockey rant. I'll save that for another post after season starts next week! ;P Just thought I'd share. Let the debate begin! :-D -EM
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I've always thought that the common use of BMI for determining whether you're "normal" weight or not is a crock, but now I know it's true. In case you don't know, BMI "theory" states that if your height to weight BMI ratio is >=25 you're overweight, and if >= 30, you're obese. Today while reading an article on a hockey player for the Toronto Maple Leafs (will it be this year for poor Leaf fans to rejoice??? :) ), I noticed they listed his height and weight (6'-4", 243 lbs). I decided to plug this into a BMI calculator. Guess what? this guy is borderline obese! :wtf: :omg: :confused: So a career athlete, whose fitness level allows him to play and practise a high-intensity sport like ice hockey to a professional level, is actually a very high health risk?? Really? NOTE: Please, no comments on the Leafs talent, or lack of; this isn't a hockey rant. I'll save that for another post after season starts next week! ;P Just thought I'd share. Let the debate begin! :-D -EM
GO OILERS!!!!! ( ya right, they better start winning if the buggas are getting a new arena)
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I've always thought that the common use of BMI for determining whether you're "normal" weight or not is a crock, but now I know it's true. In case you don't know, BMI "theory" states that if your height to weight BMI ratio is >=25 you're overweight, and if >= 30, you're obese. Today while reading an article on a hockey player for the Toronto Maple Leafs (will it be this year for poor Leaf fans to rejoice??? :) ), I noticed they listed his height and weight (6'-4", 243 lbs). I decided to plug this into a BMI calculator. Guess what? this guy is borderline obese! :wtf: :omg: :confused: So a career athlete, whose fitness level allows him to play and practise a high-intensity sport like ice hockey to a professional level, is actually a very high health risk?? Really? NOTE: Please, no comments on the Leafs talent, or lack of; this isn't a hockey rant. I'll save that for another post after season starts next week! ;P Just thought I'd share. Let the debate begin! :-D -EM
The main problem with the BMI is that it does not differentiate between the TYPE of mass... fat, muscles, water... it's all the same - which is, of course, not true at all.
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I've always thought that the common use of BMI for determining whether you're "normal" weight or not is a crock, but now I know it's true. In case you don't know, BMI "theory" states that if your height to weight BMI ratio is >=25 you're overweight, and if >= 30, you're obese. Today while reading an article on a hockey player for the Toronto Maple Leafs (will it be this year for poor Leaf fans to rejoice??? :) ), I noticed they listed his height and weight (6'-4", 243 lbs). I decided to plug this into a BMI calculator. Guess what? this guy is borderline obese! :wtf: :omg: :confused: So a career athlete, whose fitness level allows him to play and practise a high-intensity sport like ice hockey to a professional level, is actually a very high health risk?? Really? NOTE: Please, no comments on the Leafs talent, or lack of; this isn't a hockey rant. I'll save that for another post after season starts next week! ;P Just thought I'd share. Let the debate begin! :-D -EM
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I've always thought that the common use of BMI for determining whether you're "normal" weight or not is a crock, but now I know it's true. In case you don't know, BMI "theory" states that if your height to weight BMI ratio is >=25 you're overweight, and if >= 30, you're obese. Today while reading an article on a hockey player for the Toronto Maple Leafs (will it be this year for poor Leaf fans to rejoice??? :) ), I noticed they listed his height and weight (6'-4", 243 lbs). I decided to plug this into a BMI calculator. Guess what? this guy is borderline obese! :wtf: :omg: :confused: So a career athlete, whose fitness level allows him to play and practise a high-intensity sport like ice hockey to a professional level, is actually a very high health risk?? Really? NOTE: Please, no comments on the Leafs talent, or lack of; this isn't a hockey rant. I'll save that for another post after season starts next week! ;P Just thought I'd share. Let the debate begin! :-D -EM
I agree... the BMI stuff puts me at the upper end of normal... yet, I'd say I'm thinner than most people my height... I run 8-10 miles once a week and work out up to 5 times per week, how the heck am I on the upper end of the scale? :doh:
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Anything that goes purely on weight without taking fat vs. muscle into account has got to be largely meaningless. Isn't there some other method where you float in a tank to determine % fat? I'd expect that to contain more useful info.
David Kentley wrote:
Isn't there some other method where you float in a tank to determine % fat?
There is... but very few have that equipment... the average doctor doesn't have that.
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I've always thought that the common use of BMI for determining whether you're "normal" weight or not is a crock, but now I know it's true. In case you don't know, BMI "theory" states that if your height to weight BMI ratio is >=25 you're overweight, and if >= 30, you're obese. Today while reading an article on a hockey player for the Toronto Maple Leafs (will it be this year for poor Leaf fans to rejoice??? :) ), I noticed they listed his height and weight (6'-4", 243 lbs). I decided to plug this into a BMI calculator. Guess what? this guy is borderline obese! :wtf: :omg: :confused: So a career athlete, whose fitness level allows him to play and practise a high-intensity sport like ice hockey to a professional level, is actually a very high health risk?? Really? NOTE: Please, no comments on the Leafs talent, or lack of; this isn't a hockey rant. I'll save that for another post after season starts next week! ;P Just thought I'd share. Let the debate begin! :-D -EM
I agree on others, it's the substance. Keep in mind that BMI works when analysed by a Doctor, Neutcian, health practicianer.. Not by computer. Your arguement is valid IF we are just looking at the numbers only and not the over all. a computer would fail at this (unless they have ability to further analyse subject). I'm 6ft 1 and 230lbs (I've lost some pounds before I get teased), a shorter version of said hockey player in height and girth. I think one of us could run a block without passing out, and or left heavier style objects compared to the other.
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I've always thought that the common use of BMI for determining whether you're "normal" weight or not is a crock, but now I know it's true. In case you don't know, BMI "theory" states that if your height to weight BMI ratio is >=25 you're overweight, and if >= 30, you're obese. Today while reading an article on a hockey player for the Toronto Maple Leafs (will it be this year for poor Leaf fans to rejoice??? :) ), I noticed they listed his height and weight (6'-4", 243 lbs). I decided to plug this into a BMI calculator. Guess what? this guy is borderline obese! :wtf: :omg: :confused: So a career athlete, whose fitness level allows him to play and practise a high-intensity sport like ice hockey to a professional level, is actually a very high health risk?? Really? NOTE: Please, no comments on the Leafs talent, or lack of; this isn't a hockey rant. I'll save that for another post after season starts next week! ;P Just thought I'd share. Let the debate begin! :-D -EM
Have you ever seen what your typical cold-water long distance swimmer looks like? To most people's eyes they look overweight - yet they might be swimming for 14+hours in cold water --> now that is what I call that fit.
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I agree... the BMI stuff puts me at the upper end of normal... yet, I'd say I'm thinner than most people my height... I run 8-10 miles once a week and work out up to 5 times per week, how the heck am I on the upper end of the scale? :doh:
Albert Holguin wrote:
how the heck am I on the upper end of the scale?
That's because you're special Albert. :rolleyes: Embrace your specialness.
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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I've always thought that the common use of BMI for determining whether you're "normal" weight or not is a crock, but now I know it's true. In case you don't know, BMI "theory" states that if your height to weight BMI ratio is >=25 you're overweight, and if >= 30, you're obese. Today while reading an article on a hockey player for the Toronto Maple Leafs (will it be this year for poor Leaf fans to rejoice??? :) ), I noticed they listed his height and weight (6'-4", 243 lbs). I decided to plug this into a BMI calculator. Guess what? this guy is borderline obese! :wtf: :omg: :confused: So a career athlete, whose fitness level allows him to play and practise a high-intensity sport like ice hockey to a professional level, is actually a very high health risk?? Really? NOTE: Please, no comments on the Leafs talent, or lack of; this isn't a hockey rant. I'll save that for another post after season starts next week! ;P Just thought I'd share. Let the debate begin! :-D -EM
Taken alone, yeah, it's bollocks. BMI is a starting point, I'm 6'1" and weigh 210 lbs, so my BMI is just over 25. Which says I'm overweight, but if you were to meet me, that's not what you'd say. I think age is also a factor. I think the "tighten your abdomen and pinch your belly" measurement is probably a better indicator. If it's > 1" then you're probably overweight. The greater the "bulge" the more overweight. Again, age is a factor.
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Anything that goes purely on weight without taking fat vs. muscle into account has got to be largely meaningless. Isn't there some other method where you float in a tank to determine % fat? I'd expect that to contain more useful info.
I'm big boned :-D I know this because when I had to have a chest x-ray (pneumonia) the radiographer when the plate developed exclaimed "Holy shit, look at the size of those bones". Now according to BMI I am 6 to 7 stone overweight, I'm not going to try to claim that is all bone mass, I am not that delusional, but I am exceptionally broad shouldered, I am just big anyway, I'm fairly certain I would have to lose a leg to get down to my ideal BMI.
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I've always thought that the common use of BMI for determining whether you're "normal" weight or not is a crock, but now I know it's true. In case you don't know, BMI "theory" states that if your height to weight BMI ratio is >=25 you're overweight, and if >= 30, you're obese. Today while reading an article on a hockey player for the Toronto Maple Leafs (will it be this year for poor Leaf fans to rejoice??? :) ), I noticed they listed his height and weight (6'-4", 243 lbs). I decided to plug this into a BMI calculator. Guess what? this guy is borderline obese! :wtf: :omg: :confused: So a career athlete, whose fitness level allows him to play and practise a high-intensity sport like ice hockey to a professional level, is actually a very high health risk?? Really? NOTE: Please, no comments on the Leafs talent, or lack of; this isn't a hockey rant. I'll save that for another post after season starts next week! ;P Just thought I'd share. Let the debate begin! :-D -EM
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I've always thought that the common use of BMI for determining whether you're "normal" weight or not is a crock, but now I know it's true. In case you don't know, BMI "theory" states that if your height to weight BMI ratio is >=25 you're overweight, and if >= 30, you're obese. Today while reading an article on a hockey player for the Toronto Maple Leafs (will it be this year for poor Leaf fans to rejoice??? :) ), I noticed they listed his height and weight (6'-4", 243 lbs). I decided to plug this into a BMI calculator. Guess what? this guy is borderline obese! :wtf: :omg: :confused: So a career athlete, whose fitness level allows him to play and practise a high-intensity sport like ice hockey to a professional level, is actually a very high health risk?? Really? NOTE: Please, no comments on the Leafs talent, or lack of; this isn't a hockey rant. I'll save that for another post after season starts next week! ;P Just thought I'd share. Let the debate begin! :-D -EM
Personally, I like the BMI as a fair indicator. Most people that are overweight or obese attack the BMI as inaccruate so I suggest to them the following test: If you can grab a big handful of fat anywhere on your body, the BMI is accurate for you. If you cannot, the BMI is not accurate. Too many people are overweight and claim to be normal and way to many people are obese and claim to be normal. BMI is an average indicator for average people, not outliers.
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I've always thought that the common use of BMI for determining whether you're "normal" weight or not is a crock, but now I know it's true. In case you don't know, BMI "theory" states that if your height to weight BMI ratio is >=25 you're overweight, and if >= 30, you're obese. Today while reading an article on a hockey player for the Toronto Maple Leafs (will it be this year for poor Leaf fans to rejoice??? :) ), I noticed they listed his height and weight (6'-4", 243 lbs). I decided to plug this into a BMI calculator. Guess what? this guy is borderline obese! :wtf: :omg: :confused: So a career athlete, whose fitness level allows him to play and practise a high-intensity sport like ice hockey to a professional level, is actually a very high health risk?? Really? NOTE: Please, no comments on the Leafs talent, or lack of; this isn't a hockey rant. I'll save that for another post after season starts next week! ;P Just thought I'd share. Let the debate begin! :-D -EM
BMI is meant for average people: athletes are not average. As a tool, the body-mass index shows a direct correlation to a number of health problems, including type 2 diabetes, cardio-vascular disease and hypertension. You cannot dismiss the norm based on a few outlyers.
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I've always thought that the common use of BMI for determining whether you're "normal" weight or not is a crock, but now I know it's true. In case you don't know, BMI "theory" states that if your height to weight BMI ratio is >=25 you're overweight, and if >= 30, you're obese. Today while reading an article on a hockey player for the Toronto Maple Leafs (will it be this year for poor Leaf fans to rejoice??? :) ), I noticed they listed his height and weight (6'-4", 243 lbs). I decided to plug this into a BMI calculator. Guess what? this guy is borderline obese! :wtf: :omg: :confused: So a career athlete, whose fitness level allows him to play and practise a high-intensity sport like ice hockey to a professional level, is actually a very high health risk?? Really? NOTE: Please, no comments on the Leafs talent, or lack of; this isn't a hockey rant. I'll save that for another post after season starts next week! ;P Just thought I'd share. Let the debate begin! :-D -EM
emartinho wrote:
So a career athlete, whose fitness level allows him to play and practise a high-intensity sport ...
Have you seen a sumo wrestler? :-D
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I've always thought that the common use of BMI for determining whether you're "normal" weight or not is a crock, but now I know it's true. In case you don't know, BMI "theory" states that if your height to weight BMI ratio is >=25 you're overweight, and if >= 30, you're obese. Today while reading an article on a hockey player for the Toronto Maple Leafs (will it be this year for poor Leaf fans to rejoice??? :) ), I noticed they listed his height and weight (6'-4", 243 lbs). I decided to plug this into a BMI calculator. Guess what? this guy is borderline obese! :wtf: :omg: :confused: So a career athlete, whose fitness level allows him to play and practise a high-intensity sport like ice hockey to a professional level, is actually a very high health risk?? Really? NOTE: Please, no comments on the Leafs talent, or lack of; this isn't a hockey rant. I'll save that for another post after season starts next week! ;P Just thought I'd share. Let the debate begin! :-D -EM
Do not compare athletes with "regular" people when talking about "health" (and BMI).
Watched code never compiles.
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Do not compare athletes with "regular" people when talking about "health" (and BMI).
Watched code never compiles.
Yeah, especially when the athletes are in sumo or gymnastics.
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I've always thought that the common use of BMI for determining whether you're "normal" weight or not is a crock, but now I know it's true. In case you don't know, BMI "theory" states that if your height to weight BMI ratio is >=25 you're overweight, and if >= 30, you're obese. Today while reading an article on a hockey player for the Toronto Maple Leafs (will it be this year for poor Leaf fans to rejoice??? :) ), I noticed they listed his height and weight (6'-4", 243 lbs). I decided to plug this into a BMI calculator. Guess what? this guy is borderline obese! :wtf: :omg: :confused: So a career athlete, whose fitness level allows him to play and practise a high-intensity sport like ice hockey to a professional level, is actually a very high health risk?? Really? NOTE: Please, no comments on the Leafs talent, or lack of; this isn't a hockey rant. I'll save that for another post after season starts next week! ;P Just thought I'd share. Let the debate begin! :-D -EM
What about NFL Lineman? I realize some guys are plain just fat, but there are many more who are big and strong dudes but would be considered "unhealthy" by BMI standards. I don't really remember the categories/numbers of BMI, but my first "UGH" at BMI was when I was in high school. I was having basketball practice for 2.5 hours every day. I was 6'1" and probably about 150-160 lbs...and I was considered overweight. I was fairly skinny too. I was seriously like "Ok, this BMI thing is stupid." LOL.
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What about NFL Lineman? I realize some guys are plain just fat, but there are many more who are big and strong dudes but would be considered "unhealthy" by BMI standards. I don't really remember the categories/numbers of BMI, but my first "UGH" at BMI was when I was in high school. I was having basketball practice for 2.5 hours every day. I was 6'1" and probably about 150-160 lbs...and I was considered overweight. I was fairly skinny too. I was seriously like "Ok, this BMI thing is stupid." LOL.
5'9" and 185 lbs. I do plenty of physical workout and I'm healthy. But the BMI and other nonsense calculating machine in our gym tells me that I'm obese. But like a few people pointed out here, this calculation does not apply well to athletes and physical fitness freaks. :) However, I think it's usually a fairly decent indicator of fat level to normal people.
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