Anyone actually like Linux more than Windows?
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I had been using Windows and Windows-only since Windows 3.0, until months ago I got myself a mac book pro, this is the first time I really get into the Linux world, but I hate it, however, this experience bring me to another level, Windows isn't the only thing out there, so I install Ubuntu on one of my system, Wow! I love it, as a Windows user, I found most thing hard to understand, the overall concept, the file system, everything, but after a couple weeks of trial and error, trying to undersand how permission works in the Linux world, how to execute a bin file, etc., at this point I feel a lot better with the Linux system. Up to this point I would say that I actually like Linux more than Windows, learning to 'not having permission' to do everything to your system at all time is actually a good thing.
For a OS that is over 40 years old (Unix) [much like dog years : ITS OLD!], it's still got the moves... You gotta respect that! :laugh:
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I had been using Windows and Windows-only since Windows 3.0, until months ago I got myself a mac book pro, this is the first time I really get into the Linux world, but I hate it, however, this experience bring me to another level, Windows isn't the only thing out there, so I install Ubuntu on one of my system, Wow! I love it, as a Windows user, I found most thing hard to understand, the overall concept, the file system, everything, but after a couple weeks of trial and error, trying to undersand how permission works in the Linux world, how to execute a bin file, etc., at this point I feel a lot better with the Linux system. Up to this point I would say that I actually like Linux more than Windows, learning to 'not having permission' to do everything to your system at all time is actually a good thing.
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learning to 'not having permission' to do everything to your system at all time is actually a good thing.
You must have loved Vista then...
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I had been using Windows and Windows-only since Windows 3.0, until months ago I got myself a mac book pro, this is the first time I really get into the Linux world, but I hate it, however, this experience bring me to another level, Windows isn't the only thing out there, so I install Ubuntu on one of my system, Wow! I love it, as a Windows user, I found most thing hard to understand, the overall concept, the file system, everything, but after a couple weeks of trial and error, trying to undersand how permission works in the Linux world, how to execute a bin file, etc., at this point I feel a lot better with the Linux system. Up to this point I would say that I actually like Linux more than Windows, learning to 'not having permission' to do everything to your system at all time is actually a good thing.
But I do like Linux And I do like Windows [edit] I also like Solaris and AIX but not HP-UX X| [/edit] Different folks for different strokes ...
Unrequited desire is character building. OriginalGriff
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I had been using Windows and Windows-only since Windows 3.0, until months ago I got myself a mac book pro, this is the first time I really get into the Linux world, but I hate it, however, this experience bring me to another level, Windows isn't the only thing out there, so I install Ubuntu on one of my system, Wow! I love it, as a Windows user, I found most thing hard to understand, the overall concept, the file system, everything, but after a couple weeks of trial and error, trying to undersand how permission works in the Linux world, how to execute a bin file, etc., at this point I feel a lot better with the Linux system. Up to this point I would say that I actually like Linux more than Windows, learning to 'not having permission' to do everything to your system at all time is actually a good thing.
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learning to 'not having permission' to do everything to your system at all time is actually a good thing.
obligatory xkcd cartoon : http://xkcd.com/149/[^] I never realy liked Linux, but I've only tried it in its early versions (early 90's). I don't mind unix style system, but apart from a few technical achievements, there's nothing worth installing for normal users.
Watched code never compiles.
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I had been using Windows and Windows-only since Windows 3.0, until months ago I got myself a mac book pro, this is the first time I really get into the Linux world, but I hate it, however, this experience bring me to another level, Windows isn't the only thing out there, so I install Ubuntu on one of my system, Wow! I love it, as a Windows user, I found most thing hard to understand, the overall concept, the file system, everything, but after a couple weeks of trial and error, trying to undersand how permission works in the Linux world, how to execute a bin file, etc., at this point I feel a lot better with the Linux system. Up to this point I would say that I actually like Linux more than Windows, learning to 'not having permission' to do everything to your system at all time is actually a good thing.
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But I do like Linux And I do like Windows [edit] I also like Solaris and AIX but not HP-UX X| [/edit] Different folks for different strokes ...
Unrequited desire is character building. OriginalGriff
Solaris X| I actually thought it was dead and burned into oblivion. But after a quick look up in Wikipedia I realized to my horror that it's still very much alive :((
My number one dev tool? Google
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I've liked Windows more and more with each version, I even liked Vista. But after having a look at the preview I gotta say I hate this metro thing, I find it confusing and weird. I wont install Windows 8 on my grandmothers machine that's for sure, she would call me day and night because she didn't get this metro thing, I'm sure. In short I agree with you. I'll for the first time skip a version of Windows.
My number one dev tool? Google
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Solaris X| I actually thought it was dead and burned into oblivion. But after a quick look up in Wikipedia I realized to my horror that it's still very much alive :((
My number one dev tool? Google
The last few years of my working life (last few months with Sun) we used Solaris a lot and had a large customer base worldwide that used it. I would be quite surprised if all those customers had managed to move to a different platform in less than 5 years.
Unrequited desire is character building. OriginalGriff
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I had been using Windows and Windows-only since Windows 3.0, until months ago I got myself a mac book pro, this is the first time I really get into the Linux world, but I hate it, however, this experience bring me to another level, Windows isn't the only thing out there, so I install Ubuntu on one of my system, Wow! I love it, as a Windows user, I found most thing hard to understand, the overall concept, the file system, everything, but after a couple weeks of trial and error, trying to undersand how permission works in the Linux world, how to execute a bin file, etc., at this point I feel a lot better with the Linux system. Up to this point I would say that I actually like Linux more than Windows, learning to 'not having permission' to do everything to your system at all time is actually a good thing.
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FFTY. I marginally prefer Linux, more so when the price tag is factored in. I'm just getting back into it after a too-many-years break, I've just set myself up a dirt-cheap laptop, anything post Windows XP wouldn't run on it due to the low RAM but Ubuntu is zippy-quick.
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I had been using Windows and Windows-only since Windows 3.0, until months ago I got myself a mac book pro, this is the first time I really get into the Linux world, but I hate it, however, this experience bring me to another level, Windows isn't the only thing out there, so I install Ubuntu on one of my system, Wow! I love it, as a Windows user, I found most thing hard to understand, the overall concept, the file system, everything, but after a couple weeks of trial and error, trying to undersand how permission works in the Linux world, how to execute a bin file, etc., at this point I feel a lot better with the Linux system. Up to this point I would say that I actually like Linux more than Windows, learning to 'not having permission' to do everything to your system at all time is actually a good thing.
No, I haven't had the patience to learn how things are done, and as for "not having permission", I honestly can't see the point of that. I don't like that in my women, and I don't like that in my programming environment. ;) Marc
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I had been using Windows and Windows-only since Windows 3.0, until months ago I got myself a mac book pro, this is the first time I really get into the Linux world, but I hate it, however, this experience bring me to another level, Windows isn't the only thing out there, so I install Ubuntu on one of my system, Wow! I love it, as a Windows user, I found most thing hard to understand, the overall concept, the file system, everything, but after a couple weeks of trial and error, trying to undersand how permission works in the Linux world, how to execute a bin file, etc., at this point I feel a lot better with the Linux system. Up to this point I would say that I actually like Linux more than Windows, learning to 'not having permission' to do everything to your system at all time is actually a good thing.
Ubuntu is progressing rapidly. I used to install it every year on a virtual machine to stay in the loop. Maybe the reason you liked Ubuntu more is that you are bored and want to try something new? Probably you know everything on Windows such as the command prompt, control panel, file permissions, etc... But you are enjoying the new learning experience of Linux now.
Make it simple, as simple as possible, but not simpler.
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I had been using Windows and Windows-only since Windows 3.0, until months ago I got myself a mac book pro, this is the first time I really get into the Linux world, but I hate it, however, this experience bring me to another level, Windows isn't the only thing out there, so I install Ubuntu on one of my system, Wow! I love it, as a Windows user, I found most thing hard to understand, the overall concept, the file system, everything, but after a couple weeks of trial and error, trying to undersand how permission works in the Linux world, how to execute a bin file, etc., at this point I feel a lot better with the Linux system. Up to this point I would say that I actually like Linux more than Windows, learning to 'not having permission' to do everything to your system at all time is actually a good thing.
Oh yes....much more. I have programmed professionally for both, and the programming is in some ways much easier on Linux. In others, it is less easy, but also far less prone to random errors. And library management (shared objects, dll's, assemblies, pick your poison) is a LOT better. From a system administrator point of view, there is no contest for me at all. If I can make it run on Linux, it does. 1 Linux admin can handle many servers. 1 Windows admin can effectively manage only a few, due to all of the high clicky GUI overhead requirements to administrate.
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I had been using Windows and Windows-only since Windows 3.0, until months ago I got myself a mac book pro, this is the first time I really get into the Linux world, but I hate it, however, this experience bring me to another level, Windows isn't the only thing out there, so I install Ubuntu on one of my system, Wow! I love it, as a Windows user, I found most thing hard to understand, the overall concept, the file system, everything, but after a couple weeks of trial and error, trying to undersand how permission works in the Linux world, how to execute a bin file, etc., at this point I feel a lot better with the Linux system. Up to this point I would say that I actually like Linux more than Windows, learning to 'not having permission' to do everything to your system at all time is actually a good thing.
The LAMP environment runs a lot of what is out there. This includes Google, Facebook, etc., etc. At lot of the popular languages/dialects like Python, Ruby, Node.js... were developed on Linux. Linux is a different approach, not just a different way of doing the same things. "You cannot get there from here" applies to both Linux and Windows depending on the project. Apple has tweaked BSD forever. Although I have a lot of SCO and Linux experience, I did not find an Apple easier to use than Windows and Linux. But I have not spent much time with it. The time I spent was painful. I use the Windows GUI and VS 2010, or Gentoo Linux for development. Vi is great once you get used to the syntax, but no intellisense. Intellisense is great. Both have their place. Neither should go away, they feed each other - IMHO.
"Courtesy is the product of a mature, disciplined mind ... ridicule is lack of the same - DPM"
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sudo 'not having permission'
FFTY. I marginally prefer Linux, more so when the price tag is factored in. I'm just getting back into it after a too-many-years break, I've just set myself up a dirt-cheap laptop, anything post Windows XP wouldn't run on it due to the low RAM but Ubuntu is zippy-quick.
Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]Keith Barrow wrote:
FFTY FTFY
FTFY ;)
The world is going to laugh at you anyway, might as well crack the 1st joke! Have you tried turning it off and on again? Have you tried forcing an unexpected reboot?
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I had been using Windows and Windows-only since Windows 3.0, until months ago I got myself a mac book pro, this is the first time I really get into the Linux world, but I hate it, however, this experience bring me to another level, Windows isn't the only thing out there, so I install Ubuntu on one of my system, Wow! I love it, as a Windows user, I found most thing hard to understand, the overall concept, the file system, everything, but after a couple weeks of trial and error, trying to undersand how permission works in the Linux world, how to execute a bin file, etc., at this point I feel a lot better with the Linux system. Up to this point I would say that I actually like Linux more than Windows, learning to 'not having permission' to do everything to your system at all time is actually a good thing.
I like both Windows and Linux. Used Windows since 1996, and Linux since 2001. All my computers are dual boot Windows 7 + Linux Mint (my favorite distro). It's hard to say if I like one better than the other. They both have their strong points and weak points. I don't really prefer one over the other, but I do prefer having both OSes on dual-boot over just one or the other.
The world is going to laugh at you anyway, might as well crack the 1st joke! Have you tried turning it off and on again? Have you tried forcing an unexpected reboot?
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I had been using Windows and Windows-only since Windows 3.0, until months ago I got myself a mac book pro, this is the first time I really get into the Linux world, but I hate it, however, this experience bring me to another level, Windows isn't the only thing out there, so I install Ubuntu on one of my system, Wow! I love it, as a Windows user, I found most thing hard to understand, the overall concept, the file system, everything, but after a couple weeks of trial and error, trying to undersand how permission works in the Linux world, how to execute a bin file, etc., at this point I feel a lot better with the Linux system. Up to this point I would say that I actually like Linux more than Windows, learning to 'not having permission' to do everything to your system at all time is actually a good thing.
The problem I have with this is that no one uses an OS in a vacuum. It's somewhat like evaluating a car in the lot without driving it and using it in day-to-day situations for a while. That's when you realize the blind spot over your left shoulder sucks, the shape of the frame around the back seat doors makes getting your kids in and out of your car seats difficult, and there's not quite as much room for groceries as you thought. Or, you discover all the nifty little features missing in your old car that make this one so much better than you thought it would be. Over the last two years I've had a lot of experience in all 3 big OSes. I used Linux almost exclusively for a year and a half (Ubuntu 9-11), working on Rails stuff and Linux servers. I bought a MacBook to dual-boot, and used that for 9 months. And around that, I've been a Windows guy doing .Net programming. What I've found is that my experiences had a lot less to do with what I liked or disliked about the OS, and a whole lot more about what I did with it and how much difficulty I had doing so. For Linux, the regular stuff was great. And I really appreciated being able to run a very similar dev. environment on my laptop as on my server. What sucked for me was mostly proprietary stuff that just did not exist for Linux. Printer drivers were hit and miss. Utilities for configuring some electrical meters I worked with were Windows only, and Wine didn't work for them. I had an iPhone and thus needed iTunes, and had a Nook so I used its desktop version a decent amount. And I did have issues with driver support on some of my hardware that I either had to spend a good amount of time Googling for, or simply couldn't fix and just annoyed the crap out of me. Most of this was not Ubuntu's fault, of course, but the driving experience was just not as good as I could expect from either OS X or Windows despite the stuff I really liked about Ubuntu. In the end, my startup decided to take advantage of the MS BizSpark program, so I chose Win 7 over OS X. I would have stayed on Ubuntu had we gone the FOSS route. But all else being equal, I would choose 7 over Ubuntu for every day usage, even with the added license cost.
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I had been using Windows and Windows-only since Windows 3.0, until months ago I got myself a mac book pro, this is the first time I really get into the Linux world, but I hate it, however, this experience bring me to another level, Windows isn't the only thing out there, so I install Ubuntu on one of my system, Wow! I love it, as a Windows user, I found most thing hard to understand, the overall concept, the file system, everything, but after a couple weeks of trial and error, trying to undersand how permission works in the Linux world, how to execute a bin file, etc., at this point I feel a lot better with the Linux system. Up to this point I would say that I actually like Linux more than Windows, learning to 'not having permission' to do everything to your system at all time is actually a good thing.
I like Linux lots more than Windows. #1, when you use Linux, you aren't really aware of any part of your disk other than what's in /home/username. That's the only part of the disk that you have to organize. #2, when I install software from my standard repositories, there are no license agreements and configuration steps that I have to walk thru. Software installation happens in a matter of seconds with no user input. Pretty nice. I've been using Linux only since 2009 and I taught myself everything that I know. -Mark (Debian Linux user)
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I had been using Windows and Windows-only since Windows 3.0, until months ago I got myself a mac book pro, this is the first time I really get into the Linux world, but I hate it, however, this experience bring me to another level, Windows isn't the only thing out there, so I install Ubuntu on one of my system, Wow! I love it, as a Windows user, I found most thing hard to understand, the overall concept, the file system, everything, but after a couple weeks of trial and error, trying to undersand how permission works in the Linux world, how to execute a bin file, etc., at this point I feel a lot better with the Linux system. Up to this point I would say that I actually like Linux more than Windows, learning to 'not having permission' to do everything to your system at all time is actually a good thing.
Linux is worth something only to people whose time is worth nothing.
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I had been using Windows and Windows-only since Windows 3.0, until months ago I got myself a mac book pro, this is the first time I really get into the Linux world, but I hate it, however, this experience bring me to another level, Windows isn't the only thing out there, so I install Ubuntu on one of my system, Wow! I love it, as a Windows user, I found most thing hard to understand, the overall concept, the file system, everything, but after a couple weeks of trial and error, trying to undersand how permission works in the Linux world, how to execute a bin file, etc., at this point I feel a lot better with the Linux system. Up to this point I would say that I actually like Linux more than Windows, learning to 'not having permission' to do everything to your system at all time is actually a good thing.
I think Windows, Linux & Mac OS X all have their place and depending on your application each OS can have its advantages and/or disadvantages. It is similar to arguing that we all should be driving MAC trucks. ;P For example, I hear a lot of "I switched to Linux at home and love it. It's so much better than Windows" stories out there. However, I never hear anything backing up that popular declaration. Questions that immediately come in to mind (to mention a few) are: What are they doing with their home computer? What kind of hardware is in their home computer? If they are a system administrator practicing setup of home networks with file sharing, web serving, writing PHP/Java TomCat/Perl apps, experimenting with MySQL or PostgreSQL then yes I would agree Linux / *NIX is a great platform. In fact it's a great practice environment because some of the things learned and be directly applied to a production work environment since a lot of enterprises run on Linux and open source offerings. However, if the application is crunching a numbers in spreadsheets or other types of "business analyst" duties then I would offer a strong argument for Windows and MS Office. Yes, I am aware of packages like OpenOffice (OpenOffice.org) and while it offers "similar" functionality it is still lacking in quite a few areas: document compatibility just to mention one. I also realize that they make Office for Mac and while it is making quite a bit of progress it is still not the same as Office on a Windows machine. Now if your application is music or audio / recording I would say the Mac/OS X is your friend. I have used audio software / recording packages for all three platforms and I will say (quite easily) Mac / OS X wins in this category hands down! You simply plug in your audio interface and it just WORKS! Linux is not bad if you can actually find drivers for your audio interface (hours and hours can be spent even after finding drivers to get them compiled or compiled into your kernel.) I realize this is not the fault of Linux / the Open Source community, but the fault of manufacturers who do not release the details to the inner workings of their devices. However, I also understand the idea of "trade secrets" and that releasing the details of your inner workings to your competitor is not always a good thing, but I digress. The other down side I have seen with audio software on Linux is features! A lot of the open source offerings for audio software (Audacity excluded as it is a quite decent
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I like Linux lots more than Windows. #1, when you use Linux, you aren't really aware of any part of your disk other than what's in /home/username. That's the only part of the disk that you have to organize. #2, when I install software from my standard repositories, there are no license agreements and configuration steps that I have to walk thru. Software installation happens in a matter of seconds with no user input. Pretty nice. I've been using Linux only since 2009 and I taught myself everything that I know. -Mark (Debian Linux user)
Linux, Windows or Mac Operating systems have their own advantages and disadvantages according to specific requirements established by an user or group of users (e.g.organization). Any analysis should be done according to this criteria. For example, it is hard to argue against Windows in the business world, because of after decades of use by it, everybody is familiar with Windows and try to stick to it. Another example, Mac and the graphics community. Or, Linux on Web community....it mostly depends on your environment, if you prefer one over another. Dante
