Why we call them bugs???
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OK, how about "Operationally Impaired" ? ? ?
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sujit0761 wrote:
Ok.Lets suggest new names for BUGS
I thought we had ages ago - they are either user error or undocumented feature ;)
Yea, I remember swearing at some of SQL 2000's "features", but they were documented "features"! I didn't have a leg to complain on. For some odd reason they decided to remove these particular features in SQL 2005. They removed the ability to open a stored procedure, see one of the parameters is a text field and know exactly why it was going into an infinite loop. Don't know why "substring" partially violated that feature and allowed for a workaround in SQL 2000 that fixed the infinite loop.
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Didn't microsoft already try that? I don't think anyone fell for it then either. :-D
Pete
I know for a fact that Microsoft documented some features in SQL 2000. For some reason they decided to remove those features in 2005 without even downgrading their status and asking us to discontinue doing that. (IE Asking us to stop breaking our code by expecting SQL to do something correctly.)
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Any error made in an application is refferd to as bug.Why? Why not something else... Ok.Lets suggest new names for BUGS!!!!! ;P
Engineers were using the term "bug" for a problem or error in the late 1800s, maybe earlier (check the Oxford English Dictionary and other reliable sources such as Dr. Johnson). So, for Grace to use the term would not be not unusual. Also, she showed those who asked, the dead bug in the machine that had caused the electrical, not logical, problem she was talking about. The term caught on with those who worked with programming "and the rest, as they say, is history".
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PIEBALDconsult wrote:
Nagy Vilmos wrote:
as old as computers
Older than that actually.
Well, that depends on your definition of a computer and the scope of what you are talking about. Bugs probably predate dinosaurs. I say that is out of scope for this thread. (why mistakes in computers are called bugs.) Nagy had a link to "Grace Hopper". That also is basically how I remember the term coming into being. I accept her being the mother of the term coming into existence relating to bugs being in computer programs. If you think about it, the computer had to exist for Grace to be digging around in it to find the little bugger causing all the problems. Therefore the computer is older than the term as it relates to computer bugs. I'll concede that "fly in the ointment" would be older than that and that it relates to problems being encountered, but that too, is out of scope for the specific use of the term. I'll say that the term came about, nearly at the beginning of the start of what we now call a computer. However Charles Babbage got the credit for designing the first computer and he died well before Grace was born. (His machine wasn't built until fairly recently.) At least that (credit) was the case into the beginning of this century. Now if you search for the oldest computer, they've found a machine they are calling a computer that was built more than 2000 years ago. If you count that as a computer the term bugs in a computer is just a young whippersnapper.
KP Lee wrote:
"Grace Hopper".
Had the term not already been in use as relating to problems in machines, she would not have made the notation she did, she might not have notated it at all.
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KP Lee wrote:
"Grace Hopper".
Had the term not already been in use as relating to problems in machines, she would not have made the notation she did, she might not have notated it at all.
I agree that the terms "bugs and debugging" predate Grace relating to mechanical devices, and that probably tickled her funny bone enough to paste the moth in the log book. The fact remains that most credit Grace with making the terms popular when talking specifically about computers. I'm sure, the fact she pasted the moth in the log book probably stirred up a lot of "buzz" in the computer industry at the time (all ?10? :) people), and really did make it popular when specifically talking about computers.
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KP Lee wrote:
"Grace Hopper".
Had the term not already been in use as relating to problems in machines, she would not have made the notation she did, she might not have notated it at all.
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Actually, IMPs are Interface Message Processors, the precursors to today's routers. They were built by BBN as part of the original DARPANet project. Mike.
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I don't like the habit of giving every incident a number. Is it really fair to talk about bug #1783? What does that tell you about itself? Nothing. All bugs should be given descriptive names, like "Hell bitch exception when the user tries to repeatedly press enter quickly" That would be so much more fun in the long run. A whole new job could be created, a "Software Bug Taxonomist" who names and classifies bugs.
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Interesting, we can open up a whole new field of study. Computer "bug" entomology. There, we could also study viruses and worms. It'll be interesting when the bugs evolve wings and start flying. Just think, we will be there to watch the evolution! Exciting times there be.
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Much older, think "fly in the ointment" older. :)
If debugging is the process of removing bugs, then programming must be the process of putting them in. ~Edsger Dijkstra
deutschspracher wrote:
Much older, think "fly in the ointment" older. :)
Considering that a fly in the ointment makes the ointment stink, I'm certainly not going to apply it! ("Any error made in an application ...") :laugh:
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sujit0761 wrote:
Ok.Lets suggest new names for BUGS
I thought we had ages ago - they are either user error or undocumented feature ;)
Reiss wrote:
... user error ...
"Removed and replaced the dip behind the stick - system operates as expected."