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    Bert Mitton
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    Just glancing through the quick answers, but doesn't it seem like there's more then the usual amount of people who never met google out today?

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      Just glancing through the quick answers, but doesn't it seem like there's more then the usual amount of people who never met google out today?

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      OriginalGriff
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      New university / school year started in the UK a few weeks ago, and the question quality tends towards the thick-as-two-short-planks level for quite a few weeks after the courses start (and generally when they realise they should have done their homework two weeks ago).

      Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
      "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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        New university / school year started in the UK a few weeks ago, and the question quality tends towards the thick-as-two-short-planks level for quite a few weeks after the courses start (and generally when they realise they should have done their homework two weeks ago).

        Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

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        Nagy Vilmos
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        Remind me. How exactly did we get through college in the 80's?


        Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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          Remind me. How exactly did we get through college in the 80's?


          Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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          BobJanova
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          Asked the clever classmate to 'help' you, in the bar the night before the work is due in? :)

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          • B Bert Mitton

            Just glancing through the quick answers, but doesn't it seem like there's more then the usual amount of people who never met google out today?

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            Smithers Jones
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            Nah, I think it's not worse today than on any other day. But what I always wonder about: If they have no clue about how to use Google, how did they find Codeproject in the first place? I stumbled upon it about six years ago while doing a Google-search. Most certainly it's not their fellow course members telling them to come here and post homework questions, since people usually tell those Lazy Bums (TM) off. I would understand it, if they would get those easy solutions they are looking for, but since most of them leave in frustration, than can't be the reason. And I didn't see any ads for Codeproject in the yellow pages either. :confused:

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              Asked the clever classmate to 'help' you, in the bar the night before the work is due in? :)

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              Nagy Vilmos
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              I was the fecker being asked for the fecking answer to every fecking question by the lazy feckers. At least in Maths and Computing.


              Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                Remind me. How exactly did we get through college in the 80's?


                Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                Albert Holguin
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                A lot of drinking and bacon for breakfast... ;P

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                • N Nagy Vilmos

                  Remind me. How exactly did we get through college in the 80's?


                  Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                  dan sh
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                  I did university from 2002 to 2006 but still I wasn't aware of any online forum till I started working. Of course, I was doing Mechanical engineering and we didn't knew much about computers too.

                  "The worst code you'll come across is code you wrote last year.", wizardzz[^]

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                  • N Nagy Vilmos

                    Remind me. How exactly did we get through college in the 80's?


                    Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                    OriginalGriff
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                    In my case, on a beer-and-whisky diet... :sigh:

                    Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                    "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                      I was the fecker being asked for the fecking answer to every fecking question by the lazy feckers. At least in Maths and Computing.


                      Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                      I realised I was doing a pointless degree and simply failed all the programming modules by not doing the work. It was a source of some amusement when I had my first interview for a dev role and the bloke interviewing me said "Well I'll assume you can program as you have got a degree". Fortunately he didn't ask what class of degree.

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                      • B Bert Mitton

                        Just glancing through the quick answers, but doesn't it seem like there's more then the usual amount of people who never met google out today?

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                        Although I agree with personal research, I do have one question for all of you who use the obligatory Google answer. What question could not be answered with a Google search? With that said, is there really a need to ask questions at all here on this site if all the answers could be found via Google. Could it be that most of us don't know the answers ourselves? A quick, polite, two sentence answer uses up the same amount of screen space as a rude one. If you don't like the question then don't answer it. Move on to the next one. I'm frankly getting tired of the bitching and complaining by "professionals" regarding question quality.

                        Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
                        "No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)

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                          I was the fecker being asked for the fecking answer to every fecking question by the lazy feckers. At least in Maths and Computing.


                          Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                          BobJanova
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                          Ah, Irish swearing. So was I, in school. At uni there wasn't much of that, people who go to Cambridge generally realise the value of completing their course themselves (plus in geology it's pretty difficult to copy without it being obvious since most of the questions are essays).

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                            Although I agree with personal research, I do have one question for all of you who use the obligatory Google answer. What question could not be answered with a Google search? With that said, is there really a need to ask questions at all here on this site if all the answers could be found via Google. Could it be that most of us don't know the answers ourselves? A quick, polite, two sentence answer uses up the same amount of screen space as a rude one. If you don't like the question then don't answer it. Move on to the next one. I'm frankly getting tired of the bitching and complaining by "professionals" regarding question quality.

                            Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
                            "No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)

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                            BobJanova
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                            A 'how does this work' or 'what design should I use for this' or 'which of these options is better' can't easily be answered with Google. It's really language fundamental questions (which should just be looked up in the course notes – or other online tutorials which are often in the first five hits when you google exactly the question title) that are annoying and get the 'go away' response.

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                            • B Bert Mitton

                              Just glancing through the quick answers, but doesn't it seem like there's more then the usual amount of people who never met google out today?

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                              BobJanova
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                              It doesn't seem any worse than usual, to be honest. Maybe you're just more sensitive to it today.

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                                Ah, Irish swearing. So was I, in school. At uni there wasn't much of that, people who go to Cambridge generally realise the value of completing their course themselves (plus in geology it's pretty difficult to copy without it being obvious since most of the questions are essays).

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                                Does you MSci mean you are eligible to vote this w/e - if so go Brian Blessed! (I am going up on Friday night, but voting Saturday whenever I sober up enough)

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                                  Does you MSci mean you are eligible to vote this w/e - if so go Brian Blessed! (I am going up on Friday night, but voting Saturday whenever I sober up enough)

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                                  I think it acts like an MA as well, not really sure though.

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                                    I think it acts like an MA as well, not really sure though.

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                                    If you are a member of the senate you can vote (if you did the Natural Sciences Tripos you should be) - I guess you must have been one of the last to get yours from HRH DoE

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                                      Although I agree with personal research, I do have one question for all of you who use the obligatory Google answer. What question could not be answered with a Google search? With that said, is there really a need to ask questions at all here on this site if all the answers could be found via Google. Could it be that most of us don't know the answers ourselves? A quick, polite, two sentence answer uses up the same amount of screen space as a rude one. If you don't like the question then don't answer it. Move on to the next one. I'm frankly getting tired of the bitching and complaining by "professionals" regarding question quality.

                                      Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
                                      "No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)

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                                      AspDotNetDev
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                                      Slacker007 wrote:

                                      What question could not be answered with a Google search?

                                      None, assuming the search term is broad enough to cover all of the necessary sources of information. However, there are quite a few questions that can't be answered with a single search result (i.e., a page that shows exactly how to do what the person is trying to accomplish). If the question being asked is doing something novel, such as combining various things into one, then it's a good question (well, has the potential to be). If it's asking something that is immediately available without any novelty, it's not such a good question.

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                                      I'm frankly getting tired of the bitching and complaining by "professionals" regarding question quality.

                                      I think something that we forget is that we too were once in school and that our analytic abilities were not as fully developed. Back in that time, I would not have analyzed the question well enough to know that I had various resources to pull from. My knee-jerk reaction may have been to ask another person a question in order to get an answer, rather than ask a search engine. Being a youngin', I may have just followed my knee-jerk reaction rather than fully thinking something through. I think this is something we need to remind ourselves of on occassion so we are more tolerant of others. Still, linking to Google politely may not be such a bad idea. That way, we are providing an answer as well as demonstrating how to get the answer (fish vs fishing).

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                                      INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.

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