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    Jacquers
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    You dream about writing code. And not even in your current coding language, but Turbo Pascal. It was a good language to learn programming in, but things took a long time to do compared to what we have available now. I'd be able to write something in a day that would have taken a week to do back then.

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      You dream about writing code. And not even in your current coding language, but Turbo Pascal. It was a good language to learn programming in, but things took a long time to do compared to what we have available now. I'd be able to write something in a day that would have taken a week to do back then.

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      Steve Mayfield
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      you look at the food on your plate and estimate the number of bytes :-D

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        You dream about writing code. And not even in your current coding language, but Turbo Pascal. It was a good language to learn programming in, but things took a long time to do compared to what we have available now. I'd be able to write something in a day that would have taken a week to do back then.

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        I could do in a day, back then, what it now takes a month to do with modern languages. If Turbo Pascal had held the course, instead of fizzling out after v5.5, I might still be a programmer. It was easy to read, write, and maintain, well documented, extremely efficient, and fairly priced. Microsoft changed all of those facets of an entire industry, and all of us are poorer for it. That's not to say that a bunch of good people aren't doing very nicely financially as a result, of course. :-D

        Will Rogers never met me.

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          You dream about writing code. And not even in your current coding language, but Turbo Pascal. It was a good language to learn programming in, but things took a long time to do compared to what we have available now. I'd be able to write something in a day that would have taken a week to do back then.

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          Firo Atrum Ventus
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          No, you've been coding too much when you start remembering phone numbers in Hex.

          Oxfords English < Official CCC Players Dictionary Excuse me for my improper grammar and typos. It's because English is my primary language, not my first language. My first languages are C# and Java. VB, ASP, JS, PHP and SQL are my second language. Indonesian came as my third language. My fourth language? I'm still creating it, I'll let you know when it's done! :-D

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            No, you've been coding too much when you start remembering phone numbers in Hex.

            Oxfords English < Official CCC Players Dictionary Excuse me for my improper grammar and typos. It's because English is my primary language, not my first language. My first languages are C# and Java. VB, ASP, JS, PHP and SQL are my second language. Indonesian came as my third language. My fourth language? I'm still creating it, I'll let you know when it's done! :-D

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            Steve Mayfield
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            or ASCII strings (using the keypad letters)

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            • F Firo Atrum Ventus

              No, you've been coding too much when you start remembering phone numbers in Hex.

              Oxfords English < Official CCC Players Dictionary Excuse me for my improper grammar and typos. It's because English is my primary language, not my first language. My first languages are C# and Java. VB, ASP, JS, PHP and SQL are my second language. Indonesian came as my third language. My fourth language? I'm still creating it, I'll let you know when it's done! :-D

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              Roger Wright
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              Good god - you, too? I've been doing that since I was sixteen, and wishing I had 16 fingers to make it easier to handle large numbers. We didn't have calculators then, just these soft, heavy, and somewhat slimy clay tablets. I had to invent the wheel just to carry my books to school... I must admit that, although my first prototype using squares didn't work out too well, further refinements utilizing more sides in the polygon theme worked out a little better. Still, my early beta testers reported amazing weight loss results from using my prototype design, so it wasn't a complete failure.

              Will Rogers never met me.

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              • J Jacquers

                You dream about writing code. And not even in your current coding language, but Turbo Pascal. It was a good language to learn programming in, but things took a long time to do compared to what we have available now. I'd be able to write something in a day that would have taken a week to do back then.

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                I've dreamed coding :zzz: .. alot of nights actually. It's much better than dreaming fantasy video games (and safer). You know you've been programming too much when you start speaking in statements (ie; "if ... than ..else.. ) Done that a few times. Not a programming one, but you know you've been using your blackberry too much when you hold down a key on the keyboard and wonder why it's not capitalizing. you know you have been gaming and doing too much game development when you go outside and think " hmm, nice graphics". ( or think about how to vector it). when people ask you something and you don't know, you reply " num=1; "with a blank stare.

                ///////////////// -Negative, I am a meat popsicle.

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                  I could do in a day, back then, what it now takes a month to do with modern languages. If Turbo Pascal had held the course, instead of fizzling out after v5.5, I might still be a programmer. It was easy to read, write, and maintain, well documented, extremely efficient, and fairly priced. Microsoft changed all of those facets of an entire industry, and all of us are poorer for it. That's not to say that a bunch of good people aren't doing very nicely financially as a result, of course. :-D

                  Will Rogers never met me.

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                  I feel like that with mvvm. I see the benefits of seperation of logic and things being loosely coupled, but it takes a lot longer than plain old code behind. It also feels a bit 'obfuscated' since you have to know mvvm to figure out just how things fit together.

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                  • J Jacquers

                    You dream about writing code. And not even in your current coding language, but Turbo Pascal. It was a good language to learn programming in, but things took a long time to do compared to what we have available now. I'd be able to write something in a day that would have taken a week to do back then.

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                    During uni we still had COBOL. Got a nightmare two years in a row the night before the exam about COBOL code passing through. A small reminder, for COBOL you needed to divide the code in sections and start writing on the seventh character. For calculating values you needed to write "compute ... " etc... X|

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                      I could do in a day, back then, what it now takes a month to do with modern languages. If Turbo Pascal had held the course, instead of fizzling out after v5.5, I might still be a programmer. It was easy to read, write, and maintain, well documented, extremely efficient, and fairly priced. Microsoft changed all of those facets of an entire industry, and all of us are poorer for it. That's not to say that a bunch of good people aren't doing very nicely financially as a result, of course. :-D

                      Will Rogers never met me.

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                      Turbo Pascal begat Delphi, and while a purist might have complained at that move, Delphi retained most of those advantages that you describe there.

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                        Turbo Pascal begat Delphi, and while a purist might have complained at that move, Delphi retained most of those advantages that you describe there.

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                        Roger Wright
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                        Most, but not all, especially the price. :-D I couldn't afford to continue using it, especially considering that the wind was blowing Microsoft's direction...

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                          Good god - you, too? I've been doing that since I was sixteen, and wishing I had 16 fingers to make it easier to handle large numbers. We didn't have calculators then, just these soft, heavy, and somewhat slimy clay tablets. I had to invent the wheel just to carry my books to school... I must admit that, although my first prototype using squares didn't work out too well, further refinements utilizing more sides in the polygon theme worked out a little better. Still, my early beta testers reported amazing weight loss results from using my prototype design, so it wasn't a complete failure.

                          Will Rogers never met me.

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                          Steve Mayfield
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                          and here I thought the roundness was caused by the natural wear and tear of pushing the cart with the square wheels. ;)

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                            During uni we still had COBOL. Got a nightmare two years in a row the night before the exam about COBOL code passing through. A small reminder, for COBOL you needed to divide the code in sections and start writing on the seventh character. For calculating values you needed to write "compute ... " etc... X|

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                            V. wrote:

                            For calculating values you needed to write "compute ... " etc...

                            Not necessarily. You could say ADD A TO B GIVING C or COMPUTE C = A + B You have forgotten your COBOL! :laugh:

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                              V. wrote:

                              For calculating values you needed to write "compute ... " etc...

                              Not necessarily. You could say ADD A TO B GIVING C or COMPUTE C = A + B You have forgotten your COBOL! :laugh:

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                              Damn you of reminding me the forgotten words ! May your corps rot in hell for all eternity. :-D

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                              • J Jacquers

                                You dream about writing code. And not even in your current coding language, but Turbo Pascal. It was a good language to learn programming in, but things took a long time to do compared to what we have available now. I'd be able to write something in a day that would have taken a week to do back then.

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                                While coding you finish your prawns, start on the grapes and only notice by the third or fourth grape that you are still dipping them in the seafood dip.

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                                  You dream about writing code. And not even in your current coding language, but Turbo Pascal. It was a good language to learn programming in, but things took a long time to do compared to what we have available now. I'd be able to write something in a day that would have taken a week to do back then.

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                                  BubingaMan
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                                  Jacquers wrote:

                                  You dream about writing code

                                  Back when I was working on a framework day and night, I once woke up in sweat in the middle of the night. I dreamed that I was an object that got lost in the framework. It was pretty strange. :-)

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                                    V. wrote:

                                    For calculating values you needed to write "compute ... " etc...

                                    Not necessarily. You could say ADD A TO B GIVING C or COMPUTE C = A + B You have forgotten your COBOL! :laugh:

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                                    Vivic wrote:

                                    You could say ADD A TO B GIVING C or
                                    COMPUTE C = A + B

                                    OMG, I really did not need to see that. :laugh:

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                                      I feel like that with mvvm. I see the benefits of seperation of logic and things being loosely coupled, but it takes a lot longer than plain old code behind. It also feels a bit 'obfuscated' since you have to know mvvm to figure out just how things fit together.

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                                      Jacquers wrote:

                                      but it takes a lot longer than plain old code behind

                                      Perhaps. But consider needing to dive back into that code after 2 years to deal with a change request or a bugfix. I'll take the nicely structured code of MVVM over the spaghetti that is code-behind any day of the week. Not to mention that writing tests for the GUI layer is loads more efficient if you decouple the logic from the actual GUI.

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                                      It also feels a bit 'obfuscated' since you have to know mvvm to figure out just how things fit together.

                                      Yes, to understand MVVM code, you need working knowledge of the MVVM pattern. Seems kinda obvious.

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                                        You dream about writing code. And not even in your current coding language, but Turbo Pascal. It was a good language to learn programming in, but things took a long time to do compared to what we have available now. I'd be able to write something in a day that would have taken a week to do back then.

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                                        Before you go to bed, you put two glasses near you. One filled with water in case you get thirsty in a middle of a night. The other one empty, in case you don't get thirsty.

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                                          During uni we still had COBOL. Got a nightmare two years in a row the night before the exam about COBOL code passing through. A small reminder, for COBOL you needed to divide the code in sections and start writing on the seventh character. For calculating values you needed to write "compute ... " etc... X|

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